Parents hate the Childfree

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Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

You are spot on !If people don’t want or like children it’s up to them , it’s their right to choose . But demanding children to not participate in things simply because they are children is crazy . And nobody would go about it with any other group like old folk or disabled . So children and all that entails should not be expected to pander for those who don’t like them . In flights babies cry , in restaurantes kids laugh and are noisy etc . It’s part of being a child and if someone wants to live a completely child free life then the brunt of knowing how to isolate themselves from children is on them. Although I would say this is mostly a U.K. , USA thing and not my experience worldwide .

@ThatNimblePeer why would it suit parents to believe that? Why the fuck would we care? I can easily imagine my life if I'd not had kids, sometimes I wish I had that life, mostly not. I certainly don't need people to want what I want to make me feel good.

Oh great! Yet another thread about the childfree who want to wang on about it. God you lot are like fucking vegans. Give it a rest love!

And some parents seem to want to remind childfree people constantly of how empty and meaningless and unfulfilled their lives would be if they didn’t have children.

Being angry enough to use ‘the fuck’ generally implies that someone does care

And in a more honest personal perspective I try to avoid this feeling but I never envied someone without children . Quite the opposite I often pity them . Sorry if this offends someone it’s not my intention , but the love you have for a child is something I couldn’t feel for anyone else , no my husband , not my parents or siblings or nephews . It’s something only a parent experiences and in that sense I feel sad that others will never experience it .

It is a bit like walking into a church and slagging off Christianity though. Not all people in there will necessarily be Christian and they won’t only talk about Christianity but most people would think it was inept and insensitive in that space.

People really love their children and most parents feel more strongly about them than pretty much anything else. That is why complaining about children, as if they are a unlikeable group, on what is a predominantly parenting site, is likely to go down like a lead balloon. The name ’Mumsnet’ is a big help on how to read the room. I usually assume posters on here who say they hate children are here to wind people up.

I feel anyway that mums are too busy arguing with each other - older mums vs younger mums, stay at home mums vs working mums etc to have the energy to be bothered about those that don't have kids!

But it’s often parents doing the complaining. You know, the parents who only like their own children.

you are on mumsnet too much @Tupelobound if you think that

I agree there does seem to be a lot of bitterness.

I think part of it is ignorance - some parents can’t even comprehend the fact that others might not like or enjoy the company of their precious little angels and must therefore be jealous.

There’s a thread someone’s started claiming people shouldn’t even say they don’t like children now because it’s somehow offensive. 🙄

I don’t care what choices people make. But when people who don’t have children start weighing in on how people should parent their children, that’s a problem.

I don't hate the childfree at all. I think not having children is a valid and logical choice.

I hate when some childfree people act as though they should be entitled to a childfree world, and I hate when some childfree people campaign against parents getting support to raise children (subsidised childcare, paid parental leave.)

Whether or not you have children, children are a vital part of our society, and we will all one day rely on the current generation of children. Everyone- childfree or not- should value them and want their best interests.

I think that if shit parenting affects other people they have every right to weigh in, regardless of whether they have children or not. If you want “the village”, it goes both ways.

Huh? but you made an entire post OP, raging about childfree people being hated on, online, so the exact same thing could be applied to YOU couldnt it?- why do you care if people hate on the childfree?

You clearly do care because you made this thread so WTF are you lecturing others that they shouldn't care when you clearly do yourself.

Bonkers.

Do they...or like this thread, does the OP cherry pick the minority that suits their narrative?

What you forget OP is that everyone who has children knows what it’s like not to have them. Choosing to stay without them isn’t a special or exciting thing deserving of praise or attention. You’ve made a whole thread to paint yourself as both special and a victim.

Yes they do. Not often, but we have had people come on to tell us we’ll regret it when we’re old and lonely, “mark their words”. And many opposed the setting up of the board in the first place and came on to argue the toss about what childfree really means.

Not true. Life without children is not the same as life before children.

I definitely see a lot of posts about childfree people not being considerate on here. You only have to look at the outrage when someone gets invited to a childfree wedding then there was the thread yesterday about childfree people hating kids and the one about neighbours not being happy with noisy kids and that’s just this weekend. I’ve got kids myself but on MN everyone expects other people to bend over backwards for their kids otherwise they are haters.

If that's your experience fine, but I was childfree until 33 and never once came accross that. Just childfree people ramming it down others throat.

How so? And how would a childfree person know, given they have not lived both experiences?

One is a period of time. The other is a lifelong mindset. And how would someone with children know what a whole life without children is?

This. Whether someone is childfree or not is none of my business and doesn't change how I feel about them one way or another. Who cares

I was thinking this too. I chose to have my children because I wanted a life with my own children in it. So it makes no sense that I would be jealous of childfree people when they’re literally living the opposite of how I want my life to be.