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Mayflower primary school - nappy changing facilities for school aged children

461 replies

2011j · 15/05/2025 14:23

AIBU to think this shouldn't be necessary?

Not including those with sen, children should be potty trained before starting school - AIBU?

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arlequin · 20/05/2025 12:43

@Kirbert2but this doesn’t explain why this has increased so much in the last 5 years

Kirbert2 · 20/05/2025 12:48

arlequin · 20/05/2025 12:43

@Kirbert2but this doesn’t explain why this has increased so much in the last 5 years

All I know is that I change an older child multiple times a day and I can't imagine that anyone would choose this as the ''lazy'' option. It is hard work and obviously not at all pleasant with an older child's waste.

Toilet training is the easier option if a child is capable.

Bazinga007 · 20/05/2025 13:12

Imagine spending years training to be a teacher and you end up having to spend parts of your day changing nappies, no wonder there is a shortage of teachers.

x2boys · 20/05/2025 13:53

Bazinga007 · 20/05/2025 13:12

Imagine spending years training to be a teacher and you end up having to spend parts of your day changing nappies, no wonder there is a shortage of teachers.

It usually isn't teachers.

Kirbert2 · 20/05/2025 14:01

Bazinga007 · 20/05/2025 13:12

Imagine spending years training to be a teacher and you end up having to spend parts of your day changing nappies, no wonder there is a shortage of teachers.

My son needs multiple changes at school. His teacher has never changed him and isn't even named on his intimate care plan.

x2boys · 20/05/2025 14:03

arlequin · 20/05/2025 12:43

@Kirbert2but this doesn’t explain why this has increased so much in the last 5 years

Even before the pandemic they were doubling the capacity for special school places in my LA in all four special schools so somethings is going on
I i suspect there are a few contributing factors,,expanded population, , in my LA there is a large ethnic minority population where interfamilial,marriage is popular which unfortunately can mean inherited genetic disorders are far more prevalent in certain demographic groups
Of course there will always be some lazy feckless parents ,but it's to simple,to lay the blame entirely with them

x2boys · 20/05/2025 14:06

Kirbert2 · 20/05/2025 12:48

All I know is that I change an older child multiple times a day and I can't imagine that anyone would choose this as the ''lazy'' option. It is hard work and obviously not at all pleasant with an older child's waste.

Toilet training is the easier option if a child is capable.

Yes this is what I don't understand why people think it's the easy option it's not my son,was in nappies untill he was 9/10 due ti his Disabilities, it's not the walk in the park in people think it is.

KrankyKracken · 20/05/2025 16:15

arlequin · 20/05/2025 10:19

@KrankyKrackenI do understand your point of view and I’m sorry your son struggled, but my question is why this is so much more common than in the past? Is it perhaps starting later?
When I started nursery at 2.5 we had to be potty trained and everyone was.

I get your point - I suspect the answer is it's just really, really complicated and there's lots of factors. (And a bit of media exaggeration).

But could one factor be we know mental health issues are increasing, and new mums are obviously at risk for postpartum depression which if untreated can hang around for years. We also know families living below the poverty line are increasing, and as a result there are more families in debt, more families using food banks, more families at risk of loosing their homes. All of this can lead to families having less resilience and less ability to find a solution where it isn't an easy process. There have been so many cuts to so many services many families are left barely coping with many different aspects of their lives.

But I don't think this is the answer in isolation - I don't think there is one easy answer. But I absolutely disagree that it is "just lazy parents" and I really feel like attacking parents in the first instance is just wrong (not that I'm saying you are - this just seems to often be the answer).

And even if it is related to parents starting later (and possibly this is one factor), this is a societal issue due to the advice being handed out all over the place and not that individual parents are being lazy.

Kirbert2 · 20/05/2025 16:44

x2boys · 20/05/2025 14:06

Yes this is what I don't understand why people think it's the easy option it's not my son,was in nappies untill he was 9/10 due ti his Disabilities, it's not the walk in the park in people think it is.

Exactly. I can always tell when someone has never changed an older child when they call it lazy.

OneAmusedShark · 26/05/2025 09:27

It’s a chicken and egg situation.

Nowadays larger nappies are available.

Is it that the later training is happening because of the larger nappies or
that the larger nappies are available because of the later training?

Kirbert2 · 26/05/2025 17:13

OneAmusedShark · 26/05/2025 09:27

It’s a chicken and egg situation.

Nowadays larger nappies are available.

Is it that the later training is happening because of the larger nappies or
that the larger nappies are available because of the later training?

Larger nappies will be for disabled children too.

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