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Why is Alice Evans Gruffudd homeless?

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Englishsummerblues · 14/05/2025 23:19

Doesn’t she have any famous friends? Where has all her money gone? Does she have to live in L.A? It just all seems bizarre, just move somewhere cheaper.

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Butchyrestingface · 15/05/2025 11:21

Munnygirl · 15/05/2025 11:21

thats hardly insulting. Goodness. I do actually feel very sorry for the children in all this as they are potentially going to homeless in 2 weeks regardless what you think of Alice

Good for you.

Munnygirl · 15/05/2025 11:21

Croquembouchiere · 15/05/2025 11:20

If you say so

I do

Littleblueboxes · 15/05/2025 11:22

Sad state of affairs. As others have said, all the money has seemingly been wasted on a lengthy and pointless legal battle with her ex.

Butchyrestingface · 15/05/2025 11:23

All these supporters of Alice on the Gram (even one on this thread), and yet not ONE of them willing to co-sign a new lease for her or give her a room in their house indefinitely.

They talk the talk but they just don't walk the walk.

<produces world's teeniest 🎻>

Notatallanamechange · 15/05/2025 11:24

In her latest filing she is demanding to know what roles he might have turned down, in case it meant she got more money in maintenance. She then, whilst stating that she is making money from cons and selling candles, says he should take a normal job to supplement his income… you genuinely couldn’t make it up. The non celebrity part of this ex partnership tbinking cons are viable for her contribution to her own income, but the actual working actor should be picking up shifts in Starbucks so she can live the life of Riley…

Evilspiritgin · 15/05/2025 11:27

Fm are here I see

I can’t get over no matter how abusive that woman is (documented), some people still believe that he's to blame and will twist every little thing to be able to have a go

did she accuse the young girl who played his daughter on harrow of having an affair with him

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Can I ask if you mean hatred and ignorance towards Alice or Ioan?

BrightBrickSnail · 15/05/2025 11:30

Notatallanamechange · 15/05/2025 11:24

In her latest filing she is demanding to know what roles he might have turned down, in case it meant she got more money in maintenance. She then, whilst stating that she is making money from cons and selling candles, says he should take a normal job to supplement his income… you genuinely couldn’t make it up. The non celebrity part of this ex partnership tbinking cons are viable for her contribution to her own income, but the actual working actor should be picking up shifts in Starbucks so she can live the life of Riley…

What’s are cons please? Like conventions?

KimberleyClark · 15/05/2025 11:32

BrightBrickSnail · 15/05/2025 11:30

What’s are cons please? Like conventions?

Yes. I did wonder if they were confidence tricks before I worked that out.

Butchyrestingface · 15/05/2025 11:33

BrightBrickSnail · 15/05/2025 11:30

What’s are cons please? Like conventions?

For most actors, they will be fan conventions.

In Alice's case, cons are a life goal. Actual cons.

TurquoiseDress · 15/05/2025 11:33

I feel very sorry for the children

thegirlwithemousyhair · 15/05/2025 11:34

Public figures generallly request privacy in these circs but that first 'wo is me' insta post announcing the divorce showed that it was her intention to take control of the narrative right from the off in order to portray herself as a victim and get the public onside with a poor me story using the kids as props.

She's 57 this yr and her stock has been falling for a long time now - not that it was ever that high to begin with. A restraining order won't endear her to potential employers so she'll be hard pressed to get a half decent regular job never mind another acting job...

Kbroughton · 15/05/2025 11:36

I think they are both awful. She clearly has mental health issues. She may have been abusive in the relationship. I dont have the MN view that cheating is the worst crime in the history of the world. I think that people make mistakes and that particularly people in awful situations make mistakes. However neither have put their children first. She is behaving terribly. He moved in with a woman at breakneck speed, with no thought for the children whatsoever. He was very selfish. Had he moved out by himself, spent time cultivating his relationship with his children, and introduced his new partner slowly, then his Exwife would have potentially had less influence. Even if she wouldnt, it was still the right thing to do. My ExH moved in with the woman he left me for overnight. It was terribly difficult for our daughter and she refused to stay over there for three years. That was despite me encouraging it and encouraging a relationship with her father. I did my best to swallow my feelings for the sake of hers which Alice is not doing. I would have loved to have been difficult but thats only serving myself. My ExH was a selfish knob, I did my best not to be. Unfortunately for these children they have a Mother with severe mental health issues and a selfish knob of a father.

Butchyrestingface · 15/05/2025 11:36

She's 57 this yr and her stock has been falling for a long time now

Hadn't realised she was mid 40s when the younger girl was born.

BeckyWithTheGoodBear · 15/05/2025 11:37

MereNoelle · 15/05/2025 09:44

Not quite. Way before Alice was apparently ‘blindsided’ by Ioan asking for a divorce she was telling him and the children that she didn’t want to be with him any more because he was useless, and that she was going to find the children ‘a new daddy’. Problem is, she never actually thought he’d have the guts to leave after she’d abused him and destroyed his confidence for years and when he finally did, it was a huge narc injury.
She didn’t want him, she just didn’t want him to move on.

I think you're right about trying to destroy his confidence. Before the split she was posting on Instagram how she was glad the girls hadn't inherited his nose. If she was making comments about his appearance like that publicly I can only imagine what she was saying to him privately.

StressedLP1 · 15/05/2025 11:39

TaggieO · 15/05/2025 07:39

This isn’t new behaviour either. I remember him telling the story of how he proposed to her on a chat show like it was some sweet little anecdote and her behaviour even back then was horrible.

Yeah, this is not a ‘cute engagement story’.

Shes clearly abusive.

That said, he was also a dick trying to force team his kids and new girlfriend when they were still raw and he should have put them first.

Poor kids.

Azureshores · 15/05/2025 11:42

I've just had a look on her Instagram page and found this post from a follower which maybe gives a little more insight into the situation than some of the "oh she's crazy/mentally ill responses":

My understanding from previous court rulings is that the prenup should be paying out more but the judge made an interim decision on an amount that is much less than it should be. I hope that it gets sorted out and that Alice starts to get the money she is owed not just for the kids but for herself.

No idea if her ex husband is deliberately not working or if it is just that his career has spiralled since Covid, but clearly he and his second wife continue to live a lifestyle that he is unprepared/unwilling to provide for his kids.

I bet you anything he spends more money each month on PR/protecting his image than he does on both kids combined.

Some people are telling their mother to get a job while overlooking the fact that she has been finding work, but it has to work around the children given that she has 100% physical custody.

Also this isn’t about Alice not sorting out a house, she clearly has found places but has been left in a financial situation that makes it more difficult to secure a lease.

It’s all very well saying ‘come back to the U.K.’ but the costs involved are likely prohibiting her doing so and also, why should her kids suffer from a move away from their home city, schools and friends?

Meanwhile their dad is nicely set up in a far more luxurious apartment with his second wife, taking lots of holidays and has none of the burden that comes with being a full time parent. Which incidentally he never has been. The way he so easily separated himself from the real hard work of family involvement, before and after his divorce, speaks volumes about a man who had all the freedom in the world to pursue his own interests because he knew that a woman was taking on the burden of raising his kids.

The fact that he moved his new girlfriend of only a few weeks into the flat he had set up for himself and his kids also speaks volumes about how much he cared.

This isn’t Alice saying this. It’s an observation based upon all the obvious facts of this sorry situation.

I agree it's sad for her kids to be having this all played out in public though.

radishgate · 15/05/2025 11:45

Azureshores · 15/05/2025 11:42

I've just had a look on her Instagram page and found this post from a follower which maybe gives a little more insight into the situation than some of the "oh she's crazy/mentally ill responses":

My understanding from previous court rulings is that the prenup should be paying out more but the judge made an interim decision on an amount that is much less than it should be. I hope that it gets sorted out and that Alice starts to get the money she is owed not just for the kids but for herself.

No idea if her ex husband is deliberately not working or if it is just that his career has spiralled since Covid, but clearly he and his second wife continue to live a lifestyle that he is unprepared/unwilling to provide for his kids.

I bet you anything he spends more money each month on PR/protecting his image than he does on both kids combined.

Some people are telling their mother to get a job while overlooking the fact that she has been finding work, but it has to work around the children given that she has 100% physical custody.

Also this isn’t about Alice not sorting out a house, she clearly has found places but has been left in a financial situation that makes it more difficult to secure a lease.

It’s all very well saying ‘come back to the U.K.’ but the costs involved are likely prohibiting her doing so and also, why should her kids suffer from a move away from their home city, schools and friends?

Meanwhile their dad is nicely set up in a far more luxurious apartment with his second wife, taking lots of holidays and has none of the burden that comes with being a full time parent. Which incidentally he never has been. The way he so easily separated himself from the real hard work of family involvement, before and after his divorce, speaks volumes about a man who had all the freedom in the world to pursue his own interests because he knew that a woman was taking on the burden of raising his kids.

The fact that he moved his new girlfriend of only a few weeks into the flat he had set up for himself and his kids also speaks volumes about how much he cared.

This isn’t Alice saying this. It’s an observation based upon all the obvious facts of this sorry situation.

I agree it's sad for her kids to be having this all played out in public though.

Except this is all untrue.

CandidHedgehog · 15/05/2025 11:45

Kbroughton · 15/05/2025 11:36

I think they are both awful. She clearly has mental health issues. She may have been abusive in the relationship. I dont have the MN view that cheating is the worst crime in the history of the world. I think that people make mistakes and that particularly people in awful situations make mistakes. However neither have put their children first. She is behaving terribly. He moved in with a woman at breakneck speed, with no thought for the children whatsoever. He was very selfish. Had he moved out by himself, spent time cultivating his relationship with his children, and introduced his new partner slowly, then his Exwife would have potentially had less influence. Even if she wouldnt, it was still the right thing to do. My ExH moved in with the woman he left me for overnight. It was terribly difficult for our daughter and she refused to stay over there for three years. That was despite me encouraging it and encouraging a relationship with her father. I did my best to swallow my feelings for the sake of hers which Alice is not doing. I would have loved to have been difficult but thats only serving myself. My ExH was a selfish knob, I did my best not to be. Unfortunately for these children they have a Mother with severe mental health issues and a selfish knob of a father.

They’d been living apart while he worked in Australia from 2018. For whatever reason, Alice and the girls didn’t join him.

He’d effectively ‘moved out by himself’ 3 years earlier. How long was he supposed to wait?

MalinandGo · 15/05/2025 11:46

My now DH was in an abusive marriage. He had been isolated from his family, was regularly told how awful he was, was blamed for having to go to work to support the family and threatened with violence, had to pay for childcare even though his ex didn't work. A lot of the Alice Evans stuff is very familiar.

We got together, despite being two people who would never have thought we would be involved in an affair, when he was absolutely despairing about his future and that of his kids. Our relationship gave him the courage to leave and we have been together for twenty years now. His ex made everything incredibly difficult once we left in every possible way, and he was bankrupted by legal costs. There are still people who think he did awful things as she alleged he had been violent, substance-abusing etc. and used a lot of platforms at the time to say these things. But the majority of the people who knew them both could see what had actually happened, and have been supportive of him, and us, ever since.

Some people thought I was awful then for being the other woman, and have never spoken to me since, and I am very much not proud of it. It doesn't align with my personal morals at all. But it made such a difference for him to see what a normal relationship could be like. Sometimes people are just lost in bad situations and need a hand out.

Englishsummerblues · 15/05/2025 11:49

@Azureshoressounds like she wrote it.
As a skint single mum of two, she could do what the rest of us do and put her kids in holiday and breakfast club, hasn’t she got a nanny anyway?
She could relocate to somewhere cheaper, many of us have to. Londoners, for example.
Her instagram does not look like your average skint single mum, see trips to London/ Paris. Plus her lips. Plus her clothes. Plus the cocaine.
She could do anything, she speaks several languages, get a job in a high end hotel.

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Notatallanamechange · 15/05/2025 11:50

Azureshores · 15/05/2025 11:42

I've just had a look on her Instagram page and found this post from a follower which maybe gives a little more insight into the situation than some of the "oh she's crazy/mentally ill responses":

My understanding from previous court rulings is that the prenup should be paying out more but the judge made an interim decision on an amount that is much less than it should be. I hope that it gets sorted out and that Alice starts to get the money she is owed not just for the kids but for herself.

No idea if her ex husband is deliberately not working or if it is just that his career has spiralled since Covid, but clearly he and his second wife continue to live a lifestyle that he is unprepared/unwilling to provide for his kids.

I bet you anything he spends more money each month on PR/protecting his image than he does on both kids combined.

Some people are telling their mother to get a job while overlooking the fact that she has been finding work, but it has to work around the children given that she has 100% physical custody.

Also this isn’t about Alice not sorting out a house, she clearly has found places but has been left in a financial situation that makes it more difficult to secure a lease.

It’s all very well saying ‘come back to the U.K.’ but the costs involved are likely prohibiting her doing so and also, why should her kids suffer from a move away from their home city, schools and friends?

Meanwhile their dad is nicely set up in a far more luxurious apartment with his second wife, taking lots of holidays and has none of the burden that comes with being a full time parent. Which incidentally he never has been. The way he so easily separated himself from the real hard work of family involvement, before and after his divorce, speaks volumes about a man who had all the freedom in the world to pursue his own interests because he knew that a woman was taking on the burden of raising his kids.

The fact that he moved his new girlfriend of only a few weeks into the flat he had set up for himself and his kids also speaks volumes about how much he cared.

This isn’t Alice saying this. It’s an observation based upon all the obvious facts of this sorry situation.

I agree it's sad for her kids to be having this all played out in public though.

Yeah this is literally entirely false. And this is the problem. There are legal submissions documenting costs to the penny but her followers just take what she says as gospel and simply don’t check the documents which are literally available to them. Something like he overpaid her to the tune of 400k.

And she can’t even get a rental with that and then 10k a month she was getting and then the now reduced 4.5k. It’s insanity that anyone supports her.

3luckystars · 15/05/2025 11:54

CantStopMoving · 15/05/2025 06:40

True but 99.9% of people, whilst devastated, do move on and go on to lead happy lives. She has reacted in such an utterly extreme way to the whole situation. People’s relationships end for all manner of reasons. It is clear to me that this sort of behaviour most likely didn’t start at the point the marriage ended. He must have been exhausted by it all. But who knows?

I have always thought they should have sold up, moved back to the UK and give those children a more stable, quiet, cheaper upbringing.

Edited

That’s interesting you should say that. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe her behaviour was unreasonable the whole way through her marriage.

Evilspiritgin · 15/05/2025 11:55

Englishsummerblues · 15/05/2025 11:49

@Azureshoressounds like she wrote it.
As a skint single mum of two, she could do what the rest of us do and put her kids in holiday and breakfast club, hasn’t she got a nanny anyway?
She could relocate to somewhere cheaper, many of us have to. Londoners, for example.
Her instagram does not look like your average skint single mum, see trips to London/ Paris. Plus her lips. Plus her clothes. Plus the cocaine.
She could do anything, she speaks several languages, get a job in a high end hotel.

She actually had at one point two nannies and a housekeeper

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