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Friend wants to “save” me

92 replies

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 09:40

I have a friend who I’ve known for about seven years; we got to know each other better during lockdown as we were both furloughed and bored, and it was at the time when you could only do limited outdoor meet-ups. We have a lot in common, so stayed in close touch.

My friend was a bit of a wild child in her younger years - heavy drinking, constant partying, casual sex etc.. However, by the time we met she was teetotal. She says she doesn’t believe she was an alcoholic, but sometimes once she’d started she’d struggle to stop, so decided it was best to stop altogether. I massively admire her for that - it can’t have been easy, and she made the right choice to change something that wasn’t working for her anymore.

Unfortunately, she does have a habit now of treating anyone who drinks more than the odd glass of wine like they are in the same position she was. I like a drink and I don’t mind saying so - and I don’t need it policing. It wasn’t too bad at first, but the comments are getting worse. I can’t tell her I’ve been out anywhere without her asking whether I was drinking; am I sure I should be drinking two nights in a row; you don’t have to drink - I used to drink all the time and look at me now! It’s draining. I had a Coke when we were out a few weeks ago and she practically went into raptures, telling me how proud she was of me… I just fancied one!! I ended up going on to wine just to annoy her.

I have said a few times now - gently at first, but now more forcefully - that I understand that she felt she had an alcohol problem, and it’s great she tackled it, but I don’t feel the same. I’ve asked if she feels uncomfortable being around alcohol and would prefer to meet in a cafe, but no - apparently she likes the atmosphere of the pub and has no problem being around alcohol. (Just people who drink it…)

But it doesn’t stop there. As I mentioned earlier, she used to be, by her own admission, very promiscuous when she was younger - a bit of a rebellion against a religious upbringing. Well, she’s recently started getting back into the religion she grew up in and has decided to go celibate. Again, her choice, although it does seem like another “all or nothing” choice. But of course, she can’t just do this for herself and get on with it. I’m a happily single woman who has her “adventures” with men as and when, but now I daren’t tell her anything in case I get the sex version of the Evils of Alcohol speech. It’s all “That way of life is empty; I know, I’ve been there, but you can make the change, I did it!” ad infinitum. I don’t bloody want to change!

Time with friends is supposed to be enjoyable, but frankly now every time I meet up with her I feel like I’m being judged as some kind of drunken slut. I’m sick of trying to tell her that I’m not her; I don’t need to follow her example. Do I tell her that these subjects are now off limits, permanently, or that’s it?

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LoafofSellotape · 14/05/2025 09:42

I'd just ignore and change the subject and not discuss it at all.

MyOliveHelper · 14/05/2025 09:44

Oh the born again phase is a tedious one. If it's a good friend, they'll be back later and laughing about it with you. But save your sanity and distance yourself.

CoraPirbright · 14/05/2025 09:45

Hmmm. How would she react if you got cross and said the last paragraph from your OP to her? Is she reasonable enough to take it on board or will she throw a fit?

Such righteousness would be incredibly tedious in a friendship, I would imagine.

thepariscrimefiles · 14/05/2025 09:47

She's a different person now than the one you made friends with and used to have fun with. I think this friendship has probably run its course. She doesn't seem to have boundaries when it comes to imposing her new beliefs on you, so I would pull right back and stop seeing her.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 14/05/2025 09:54

She gave up alcohol. Then she gave up sex. Maybe you could suggest the next thing she gives up is judging other people.

TheHerboriste · 14/05/2025 10:06

thepariscrimefiles · 14/05/2025 09:47

She's a different person now than the one you made friends with and used to have fun with. I think this friendship has probably run its course. She doesn't seem to have boundaries when it comes to imposing her new beliefs on you, so I would pull right back and stop seeing her.

This x1000

Life is too short. She’s become a disrespectful, domineering zealot and weirdo. Bin and move on.

Renabrook · 14/05/2025 10:11

MyOliveHelper · 14/05/2025 09:44

Oh the born again phase is a tedious one. If it's a good friend, they'll be back later and laughing about it with you. But save your sanity and distance yourself.

This, same as the weight loss obsessed you have tried your best but I would move on, and nothing to do with alcohol itself but saviour complex gets boring

Resilience · 14/05/2025 10:12

Seven years is a decent time but it’s not a life-long friendship and this is a fork in the road that is going to decide whether this friendship has the potential for real longevity. You need a conversation where you tell her what you’ve told us - that you really admire how she’s taken control of her own life but you are happy with your own choices and are finding her constant encouragement to change is spoiling your friendship. If this friendship is going to last the distance, she will accept that ans stop doing it. If she doesn’t accept it then you’re better off parting ways.

sweetpickle2 · 14/05/2025 10:12

Sorry to do the usual MN jump to diagnosis but is she ND by any chance? I have a friend like this with AuDHD, very all or nothing and an ex-wild child, and when she does quit everything thats not working for her being evangelistic about it becomes her new hyper fixation.

It is draining for sure, but in the case of me and my friend I have told in very clear terms and she was apologetic and said she was grateful for me calling her out on it.

I would tell her in clear terms. I know you say you've spoken to her about how you don't feel you have a problem etc but I would word it like your last paragraph- you feel judged like a drunken slut and she needs to lay off. If she still ignores that I would pull back.

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 10:15

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 14/05/2025 09:54

She gave up alcohol. Then she gave up sex. Maybe you could suggest the next thing she gives up is judging other people.

I love this 😄 Then she can tell me how it’s changed her life and I can do it too!

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pinkfondu · 14/05/2025 10:18

She misses it 😂

ItGhoul · 14/05/2025 10:20

She sounds unbearable.

Cactusmumma · 14/05/2025 10:21

Tell her you’re really proud of her life changes if they’ve made her happier, but be honest and say she’s getting very preachy and it’s coming across as quite judgmental and impacting your friendship. If she’s incapable of some self awareness of this, I would limit contact or sadly distance myself.

I’m teetotal and have never really drunk alcohol due to medical reasons. It causes instant joint inflammation & severe pain due to hEDS/Fibro. I’ve had it the other way round, where I’m happy to have a diet coke whilst others drink, never mention alcohol, but have people nagging me all night to ‘have a real drink’ even though I’ve explained. It’s rather odd to be honest and I have had to phase out some friends because of it.

Anyotherdude · 14/05/2025 10:21

“Look, Cathy, no amount of your proselytising is going to make me change how I do things that I’m comfortable with doing (and that up to recently, so were you), so please put a sock in it, and stop trying to make me feel bad about myself. If you can’t do that, then you’ll need to find someone else to hang out with…”

CheFaro · 14/05/2025 10:24

I don’t understand why you would see this person socially when she sounds like a judgemental bore with one topic of conversation.

TheGreyQuail · 14/05/2025 10:26

Why are you actually still friends with this person?
Really can't see the point of a friendship where you have to watch what you say and tone down your life. If she was a partner doing this, MN would tell you to throw this one back. I know I would have done long ago.
Those who suddenly 'see the light' are amongst the worst for the preachy stance in wanting to save someone's soul and all that nonsense.

Agapornis · 14/05/2025 10:27

Ah, the zealot phase. The newly converted are always the most intense, committed, advocating for and/or confrontational about their new hobby/lifestyle. Alcohol, religion, sex - it will probably be a particular diet next.
She'll grow out of it eventually but I'd tell her you understand she has a lot of enthusiasm for her new interest, but you don't share it, and that it comes across as very judgemental.

dottydodah · 14/05/2025 10:28

She sounds tiresome.These sorts of people often are ,some people somehow seem to be "born again" and expect everyone else to join them! I would cut down on your meetings TBH. Lots of us do enjoy a drink now and then without becoming an alcoholic!

RomainingCalm · 14/05/2025 10:31

I would suggest that either the friendship has run its course and you either see her less frequently or stop meeting at all.

Or, if you do value the friendship, you may have to find a way to be politely honest about how much she annoys you. I suspect the conversation may not go well and she’ll put it back to you as your problem.

I had a weight loss and fitness ‘convert’ friend like this and I just cut back on when we met. The last straw was when I talked about going out for an anniversary dinner with DH and she suggested that we probably should go for a jog together instead and have some chicken and salad when we got home. She was absolutely serious that we were making a terrible choice by going out for a meal and a drink together.

CheFaro · 14/05/2025 10:31

Maybe regale her with wild tales of the drunken threesome orgy you spent last weekend engaging in, with as many gleefully smutty details as possible (‘So then I said, ‘Nigel, I absolutely need another double vodka before I allow you and Bernard to pleasure me with your incredible manhoods yet again!’’) and she might decide you’re unsave-able..?

Kubricklayer · 14/05/2025 10:32

IF you meet up again bringing a few more friends along. It would be interesting to see how she behaved in the company of a group.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 14/05/2025 10:34

I would say ‘I’ve still got some way to go before I reach your lifetime totals, Melanie!’

If she doesn’t like that, tell her you don’t like constant criticism.

HoppingPavlova · 14/05/2025 10:38

Cannot see the point of this friendship.

thumper45 · 14/05/2025 10:38

Oh god this would drive me insane. It’s the same as ex alcoholics who write articles about how much they pity people who drink. Just because they had a problem it doesn’t mean other people aren’t able to moderate.

I really couldn’t put up with the preaching and would tell her so. How tedious.

CreationNat1on · 14/05/2025 10:39

Dry alcoholics are a pain in the assto hang out with. Tell her so.