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Friend wants to “save” me

92 replies

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 09:40

I have a friend who I’ve known for about seven years; we got to know each other better during lockdown as we were both furloughed and bored, and it was at the time when you could only do limited outdoor meet-ups. We have a lot in common, so stayed in close touch.

My friend was a bit of a wild child in her younger years - heavy drinking, constant partying, casual sex etc.. However, by the time we met she was teetotal. She says she doesn’t believe she was an alcoholic, but sometimes once she’d started she’d struggle to stop, so decided it was best to stop altogether. I massively admire her for that - it can’t have been easy, and she made the right choice to change something that wasn’t working for her anymore.

Unfortunately, she does have a habit now of treating anyone who drinks more than the odd glass of wine like they are in the same position she was. I like a drink and I don’t mind saying so - and I don’t need it policing. It wasn’t too bad at first, but the comments are getting worse. I can’t tell her I’ve been out anywhere without her asking whether I was drinking; am I sure I should be drinking two nights in a row; you don’t have to drink - I used to drink all the time and look at me now! It’s draining. I had a Coke when we were out a few weeks ago and she practically went into raptures, telling me how proud she was of me… I just fancied one!! I ended up going on to wine just to annoy her.

I have said a few times now - gently at first, but now more forcefully - that I understand that she felt she had an alcohol problem, and it’s great she tackled it, but I don’t feel the same. I’ve asked if she feels uncomfortable being around alcohol and would prefer to meet in a cafe, but no - apparently she likes the atmosphere of the pub and has no problem being around alcohol. (Just people who drink it…)

But it doesn’t stop there. As I mentioned earlier, she used to be, by her own admission, very promiscuous when she was younger - a bit of a rebellion against a religious upbringing. Well, she’s recently started getting back into the religion she grew up in and has decided to go celibate. Again, her choice, although it does seem like another “all or nothing” choice. But of course, she can’t just do this for herself and get on with it. I’m a happily single woman who has her “adventures” with men as and when, but now I daren’t tell her anything in case I get the sex version of the Evils of Alcohol speech. It’s all “That way of life is empty; I know, I’ve been there, but you can make the change, I did it!” ad infinitum. I don’t bloody want to change!

Time with friends is supposed to be enjoyable, but frankly now every time I meet up with her I feel like I’m being judged as some kind of drunken slut. I’m sick of trying to tell her that I’m not her; I don’t need to follow her example. Do I tell her that these subjects are now off limits, permanently, or that’s it?

OP posts:
Klozza · 14/05/2025 11:28

This would do my head in honestly, good on her for for recognising her own issues taking control, but as you’ve said not everyone else has the same problems with self control around alcohol.

Also good on you for living your life! Have all the (safe) sex you want, drink when you want. You seem like you have absolutely fine control over your life and you should live how you want. Honestly preaching over ‘promiscuity’ pisses me off more than the alcohol. As long as you’re single and the people you are sleeping with are single and you’re being safe then good on you

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 14/05/2025 11:31

It sounds like she still needs a dopamine hit, she doesn't get it from sex or alcohol anymore so she's taken to 'saving' people.

I would just stop hanging out with her, who can be arsed with her using you so she can feel sanctimonious about 'saving' you.

TheQuickRobin · 14/05/2025 11:32

I’ve had a few mates like this over the years and always ended up getting rid.

It’s a certain mindset of they have made life choices and then see it as their job to ‘sell’ their life choices to others and if you don’t also make those choices, you are in the wrong.

I had one mate who educated her kids privately (we are in an area where maybe 50% of our friend group do) and lectured all the comp families on how private was better. Then they ran out of cash, moved to comp and she then lectured the private families how they were wasting money and raising little lord fontleroys. The final straw was when they moved and got children into a different private school, she started lecturing the comp families again about how their kids weren’t accessing the same social group and activities. Yawn.

The other mate who lived in city like me. We used to go to galleries and shopping and stuff. She moved out to the country and then it was all how much she’d never liked city life anyway and fields are better and when was I going to wise up and realise my kids need the countryside.

The other one I met through work in a high powered job, she quit to become a tradwife and influencer. I didn’t want kids at this stage and she was distraught and said she felt i’d personally let her down and I was judging her choices.

I still fail to see how me making my choices is the same as judging others for theirs! Anyway moral of the story is she won’t change. It’s annoying.

User2446433 · 14/05/2025 11:33

Hi op friends need to have tolerance with each other - after all we are all different and go about things in different ways, but you need to be able to enjoy each other's approaches or the friendship doesn't feel like fun. Sounds as though your friendship has turned a bit. I wouldn't want to be friends with someone where I would constantly need to filter what I am saying for fear of a lecture! Screw that.

WhatColourIsThatBalloon · 14/05/2025 11:34

I'd give her some space for a while, like a month or six weeks, and see if anything chances. Sounds like the vibes are not vibing.

Agapornis · 14/05/2025 11:39

The benefit of the Jehovah's Witnesses is that it's not encouraged to be friends with people outside the cult/religion, so she may not want to meet up with you much longer! You're just too Worldly 😂

S0j0urn4r · 14/05/2025 11:45

Tell her you're a Satanist and have bought shares in a distillery.

Sugargliderwombat · 14/05/2025 11:45

I would not enjoy spending time at a pub with this woman. Take your friendship back to the park or let it die I'd say.

Viviennemary · 14/05/2025 11:46

Just say oh not that again in a bored voice.

GrahamSmith · 14/05/2025 11:47

Sounds like an ex-friend of mine. It wasn’t drink but a different topic. After a couple of years of it, it just got draining and we no longer see one another. It should be fun to see friends. This wasn’t.

godmum56 · 14/05/2025 11:48

thepariscrimefiles · 14/05/2025 09:47

She's a different person now than the one you made friends with and used to have fun with. I think this friendship has probably run its course. She doesn't seem to have boundaries when it comes to imposing her new beliefs on you, so I would pull right back and stop seeing her.

this. Friends don't nag friends.

Blueskies77 · 14/05/2025 12:03

I’d be inclined to tell her that I’m done with hearing about it, and it’s negatively affecting our friendship. If she values that then she’ll stop.

treesandsun · 14/05/2025 12:30

I would say I am happy you made changes which you feel have changed your life and made you happy. I am happy with my life - we are not all the same. To be fair X - the way you sermonise me about my life is becoming insufferable and actually putting me off meeting you - did you realise? Please stop. If I ever decide I want to completely stop drinking - and feel I need any help I will ask - until then stop going on about it.

FigTreeInEurope · 14/05/2025 12:39

Invite her to the Christmas party?

Swiftie1878 · 14/05/2025 12:43

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 10:51

Wow - I was not expecting these responses (in a good way)! I know MN has a bit of a reputation for being anti-alcohol, so I thought I’d get a few “Are you sure she doesn’t have a point?” type responses.

This has made me think I really need to lay it on the line to her. I don’t enjoy spending time with her anymore because of this.

Tbh, it just sounds as though the two of you are not compatible friends anymore.
I don’t think you can really tell her what she can and can’t talk about. You should just spend less time with her.

TheFormidableMrsC · 14/05/2025 12:47

This would drive me to distraction! I’d be asking her to give up her judgement next. Maybe you’re just too different now and this friendship has run its course.

Goditsmemargaret · 14/05/2025 12:49

I would be giving her an enormously wide berth now.

I appreciate you taking the time to provide wider context (which shows you're a reasonable person) but in this case it's irrelevant. She's a condescending judgemental twat.

Are you arguing with her that she should be able to have a couple of drinks or reconsider her celibacy choices? No you are not! Because you respect her choices and your differences.

However she's not doing the same to you.

ContraryNoodle · 14/05/2025 12:52

I'd try to convince her that Screwfix is a new budget swinger's club and ask her if she wants to come along, mentioning there is a special double cock-tail promotion...

Busybeemumm · 14/05/2025 12:56

Urgh these born again types are so draining. I have a friend who turned vegan and all I hear about how great it is. I once firmly said that it was great for her and I'm not really interested and it helped a bit to tone it down! Maybe try that.

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 13:02

I don’t think you can really tell her what she can and can’t talk about.

I can’t tell her that I don’t want her preaching to me? Telling me how I can change a lifestyle I’ve never expressed a wish to change?

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CatHairEveryWhereNow · 14/05/2025 13:03

I don't think it so much the all or nothing bit - it's the trying to inflict it on everyone else.

I had friends and family insist I must have the same illness as them - I don't and symptoms if any are often only vaugely in same ball park - or must do what they did - even if we our cicumstance differ.

Be blunt - I'm not you / I don't want to talk about it again- or just avoiding talking on topic at all just refuse to engage at all - and if it gets to much see them less or very insist you don't meet in pubs.

StarDolphins · 14/05/2025 13:06

Next time she asks you to meet, I would politely decline in favour of your ‘arranged a an all day pub crawl with this random guy I met off Tinder’

Someone2025 · 14/05/2025 13:23

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 13:02

I don’t think you can really tell her what she can and can’t talk about.

I can’t tell her that I don’t want her preaching to me? Telling me how I can change a lifestyle I’ve never expressed a wish to change?

You can’t tell her what she can and cannot talk about but you don’t need to listen to her, she sounds like a complete kill joy, I wouldn’t associate with her any more, you live your like in the way you want to and let her live hers, at this stage in your lives you don’t sound like your values align at all…. Judgemental friends are just not worth it, find people who you have more in common with

Feetinthegrass · 14/05/2025 13:30

I would probably spend more time with my fun friends op. I can’t stand killjoys!

spoonbillstretford · 14/05/2025 13:39

I would give her a chance by telling her that I find her judgey and that her comments are making her not great company and rather a buzzkill. If she can't change then I'd cool the friendship off. She would at least know why.

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