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Friend wants to “save” me

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ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 09:40

I have a friend who I’ve known for about seven years; we got to know each other better during lockdown as we were both furloughed and bored, and it was at the time when you could only do limited outdoor meet-ups. We have a lot in common, so stayed in close touch.

My friend was a bit of a wild child in her younger years - heavy drinking, constant partying, casual sex etc.. However, by the time we met she was teetotal. She says she doesn’t believe she was an alcoholic, but sometimes once she’d started she’d struggle to stop, so decided it was best to stop altogether. I massively admire her for that - it can’t have been easy, and she made the right choice to change something that wasn’t working for her anymore.

Unfortunately, she does have a habit now of treating anyone who drinks more than the odd glass of wine like they are in the same position she was. I like a drink and I don’t mind saying so - and I don’t need it policing. It wasn’t too bad at first, but the comments are getting worse. I can’t tell her I’ve been out anywhere without her asking whether I was drinking; am I sure I should be drinking two nights in a row; you don’t have to drink - I used to drink all the time and look at me now! It’s draining. I had a Coke when we were out a few weeks ago and she practically went into raptures, telling me how proud she was of me… I just fancied one!! I ended up going on to wine just to annoy her.

I have said a few times now - gently at first, but now more forcefully - that I understand that she felt she had an alcohol problem, and it’s great she tackled it, but I don’t feel the same. I’ve asked if she feels uncomfortable being around alcohol and would prefer to meet in a cafe, but no - apparently she likes the atmosphere of the pub and has no problem being around alcohol. (Just people who drink it…)

But it doesn’t stop there. As I mentioned earlier, she used to be, by her own admission, very promiscuous when she was younger - a bit of a rebellion against a religious upbringing. Well, she’s recently started getting back into the religion she grew up in and has decided to go celibate. Again, her choice, although it does seem like another “all or nothing” choice. But of course, she can’t just do this for herself and get on with it. I’m a happily single woman who has her “adventures” with men as and when, but now I daren’t tell her anything in case I get the sex version of the Evils of Alcohol speech. It’s all “That way of life is empty; I know, I’ve been there, but you can make the change, I did it!” ad infinitum. I don’t bloody want to change!

Time with friends is supposed to be enjoyable, but frankly now every time I meet up with her I feel like I’m being judged as some kind of drunken slut. I’m sick of trying to tell her that I’m not her; I don’t need to follow her example. Do I tell her that these subjects are now off limits, permanently, or that’s it?

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Myoldbear · 14/05/2025 13:40

To add to this, Jesus also said how he was judged because he would drink wine with others. He also said that John the Baptist was judged because he didn't!

I think the message from him is that just because people do things differently, they can both be right.

dramalessllama · 14/05/2025 13:44

Not all friendships are the forever and ever kinds, and this one sounds like its run its course.

Olika · 14/05/2025 13:45

Sounds like this friendship has run its course.

BarleyMcGrew · 14/05/2025 13:46

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 14/05/2025 09:54

She gave up alcohol. Then she gave up sex. Maybe you could suggest the next thing she gives up is judging other people.

Nailed it. You may need to send this by text

FOJN · 14/05/2025 13:52

People who are happy and confident about the choices they make in life don't need other people to keep them company by coercing them into making the same choices.

Your friend has no boundaries, you need to put some in place and enforce them. Tell her you respect her choices but you are happy with your own and won't indulge her judgement about any aspect of your lifestyle. If she doesn't get the message you may have to let the friendship go.

Manxexile · 14/05/2025 13:54

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 14/05/2025 09:54

She gave up alcohol. Then she gave up sex. Maybe you could suggest the next thing she gives up is judging other people.

This ^

meganorks · 14/05/2025 14:02

Some people just really need to justify their own choices by trying to get everyone to do the same as them. And judging those who don't. Honestly, I don't think she'll change. Even if she doesn't manage the comments, she'll still be judging you. I think really you have to tell her straight. But I reckon she'd keep going with PA comments instead of the full spiel. So 'another drink?!', 'out again' etc etc.

Ultimately, if she's no fun to be around any more, it might be best to cut your losses. Buy she'll probably think it's because you don't like that she doesn't drink anymore....!

justasking111 · 14/05/2025 14:24

Being serious now there's many children who grew up with an alcoholic parent who are like this.

My DH would get slaughtered one of the lads after sporting events when we first met. But because of his mother's alcoholism for the last forty years, every sip I take of wine he's watching. He clocks the bottle in the fridge as the level goes down. He veers between bragging abstinence and drinking wine and beer which I don't measure .

He never questions what men drink only women .

@ApricotFlan your friend can be celibate now but she'll never be a virgin again. I'd call her out on this bullshit.

SpidersAreShitheads · 14/05/2025 14:48

"every time I meet up with her I feel like I’m being judged as some kind of drunken slut."

Get yourself a T-shirt that says "Drunken Slut" and every time she says anything just point to your T-shirt 😂😂

justmyopinion2013 · 14/05/2025 15:48

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 10:54

Just out of interest, what religion has she gone back to? I'm assuming that it's stricter than your usual liberal religion if celibacy is a requirement of it!

It’s a branch of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. She’s not “required” to be celibate as such - it’s just another example of how she goes to the extreme.

There aren't 'branches' of Jehovah's Witnesses - it's either that religion or another one.
This doesn't sound like JW to me as they wouldn't judge you for having a glass or 2 of wine, plus there is no requirement for someone to remain celibate (abstaining from marriage).
Your friends sounds like she is involved in a totally different religion altogether.

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 16:43

But the not drinking is nothing to do with religion. She gave up because she felt she was out of control, not through any religious pressure - and her push for me to drink less is about her personal attitude, not any religious teaching.

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Createausername1970 · 14/05/2025 17:02

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 14/05/2025 09:54

She gave up alcohol. Then she gave up sex. Maybe you could suggest the next thing she gives up is judging other people.

Definitely this!

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 14/05/2025 17:11

If it came to the point where you have to watch what you say and filter everything, there’s not much point to the friendship. So you can be quite blunt and upfront with her . She needs to stop. If she can’t/won’t stop then the friendship is not working for you anymore.

NoHardSelling · 14/05/2025 17:23

I have a friend who lectures me on everything from feminism, to the environment to what books and films I should be reading and what clothes I should wear. I’m really quite boring and have pretty left-wing views on many things which should earn her seal of approval. But she is constantly pushing her views onto me and lecturing.

I am now thinking of ending the friendship. I’m in my 40s and doing okay and I have no need to be lectured to by somebody who clearly isn’t particularly happy in life herself. I have had enough.

BangersAndGnash · 14/05/2025 17:24

Just be clear and direct. Tell her you appreciate her story and are glad she is happy but you do not need her to police your drinking or any other aspect of your life,

She has no qualms telling you what she tbh is, why so reticent to return the compliment?

No need to be hostile, just tell her politely.

Tell her.

And if she does it again say ‘we’ve had this conversation’ and change subject.

If you tell her you’ve been out and she asks if you are drinking say “you don’t need to know “, whether you have or not.

ApricotFlan · 14/05/2025 18:44

She has no qualms telling you what she tbh is, why so reticent to return the compliment?

Trust me, that’s changing! I tried to be more subtle at first, as I didn’t want it to sound like I was saying “Just because you couldn’t handle your alcohol, it doesn’t mean I can’t”. But frankly I care less and less now!

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twelfthdoctor · 15/05/2025 20:38

Bring it up with her and be upfront. I'm similar to your friend in that I used to be a lot more casual about drinking and sex but then cut down as I got more religious/ felt the lifestyle wasn't for me but I would never have a go at any of my friends from that time about it. Anyone who I really felt l was no longer compatible with I slowly distanced myself from or had a conversation with about it. Tell her either she accepts that you don't have or want her lifestyle without judgement, or she should focus on finding friends who do instead of changing you, and if she continues to ignore you then I'd limit contact since you don't seem to be enjoying the friendship anymore

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