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AIBU to say that I have had enough of this government and Its grabby supporters.

278 replies

Ihavehadenough1345 · 05/05/2025 22:09

I have name changed for this and am prepared for the pile on, backlash, kicking I am going to get but I have had enough!

My tax bill was £80,000 this year. I am self employed. I pay £16,000 a year in VAT. I have a valuable asset. I own my own home.
no mortgage. I have worked bloody hard. No inheritance, no Oxbridge, no privilege and no luck!

I pay for private school for 2 DC.

I am asset rich, cash poor. I have enough money to pay all of my bills, no debt, I’m not extravagant. If you met me you wouldn’t know my financial situation. I am normal.

But my tax contribution is not enough for this government and its supporters.

I read all of the posts of all of the threads regarding VAT on school fees, UC, the cost
of living crisis and on and on and on!

I have had enough.

And I do not need therapy and I do not have ADHD or bipolar.

Let the games begin!

OP posts:
100PercentFaithful · 05/05/2025 22:14

You are entitled to your opinion. I have no problem with you having a view.
I’m not rich enough to afford private school so have always used state for my kids. I have seen the damage the previous Tory government have done to state schools. I think they were appalling as a government and ruined state services such as schools, NHS, social care etc.
People have not been paying enough tax for years, now the balance is returning to fairness with regards to funding of public services.

Ihavehadenough1345 · 05/05/2025 22:27

Were public services in good shape before the Tories?

New Labour spending was inefficient and unsustainable. I lost all hope with the Labour Party as a result of Tony Blair and New Labour.

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CrispEater2000 · 05/05/2025 23:06

Previous government played a blinder not fixing the problems they knew they had with spending and leaving it for the next person through the door to reign in spending and trying to generate income.

They've cut various benefits going to people who don't work. Those people have probably had enough of this government as well. The cost of the basics needed to live is increasing and everyone is struggling.

WanderInMyTime · 05/05/2025 23:09

What makes you think you should be able to purchase a luxury service without paying VAT? For someone running a business you don't appear to understand the principles of VAT very well....

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 05/05/2025 23:16

Taxes rose far more under the Tories. Labour are trying to stimulate the economy rather than choking it off by allowing wealth to be hoarded.

Ihavehadenough1345 · 05/05/2025 23:21

WanderInMyTime · 05/05/2025 23:09

What makes you think you should be able to purchase a luxury service without paying VAT? For someone running a business you don't appear to understand the principles of VAT very well....

Please itemise where I said I did not want to pay VAT. I do pay it and of course I understand the principle of VAT.

What else do I not understand?

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FullOfLemons · 05/05/2025 23:27

I assume you earn around 200k + to have an 80k tax bill.

I’m afraid that puts you in the top 1% and so responsible for all of the problems in society.

It’s your own fault for working hard and being good at something that people are willing to pay you for.

At least your masters have not (yet) decided to confiscate your home and give it to a person they deem to be more deserving.

Parsley1234 · 05/05/2025 23:39

You’re right it’s a disgrace you are paying twice for your children’s schooling. One millionaire has left every 45 minutes since these imbeciles came to power who can blame them ? It’s an absolute shit show

monktasmic · 05/05/2025 23:44

Don’t be ridiculous- one millionaire every 45 minutes 🤣 I’m no mathematician but that’s an awful lot of ‘millionaires’ name 10 - where did they go? 🤣 I’ll try to do some maths hang around.

Ihavehadenough1345 · 05/05/2025 23:44

FullOfLemons · 05/05/2025 23:27

I assume you earn around 200k + to have an 80k tax bill.

I’m afraid that puts you in the top 1% and so responsible for all of the problems in society.

It’s your own fault for working hard and being good at something that people are willing to pay you for.

At least your masters have not (yet) decided to confiscate your home and give it to a person they deem to be more deserving.

My leaders might also deny my DGC the right to private education and send them to the local comp where the GCSE pass rate at grade 5+ is average 23%.

Am I really societies problem? I am a proud tax payer but according to the state it’s not enough.

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ACynicalDad · 05/05/2025 23:45

I work in the charity sector on a charity wage but still recognise that pissing off the most mobile high tax payers in non doms was a ridiculous move, that and school fee vat are the politics of envy, we need to be pragmatic and hold our noses at times, not be 6th form debating societies. I'd take Reform over them and they're awful - in our seat Tories have no hope, it may be worth a try. Get them out.

Ihavehadenough1345 · 05/05/2025 23:47

Parsley1234 · 05/05/2025 23:39

You’re right it’s a disgrace you are paying twice for your children’s schooling. One millionaire has left every 45 minutes since these imbeciles came to power who can blame them ? It’s an absolute shit show

I’m trying to convince my family that a sabbatical might do us good.

And good riddance to me!

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Bluebellwood129 · 05/05/2025 23:50

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 05/05/2025 23:16

Taxes rose far more under the Tories. Labour are trying to stimulate the economy rather than choking it off by allowing wealth to be hoarded.

No one in the Labour party has a clue how to stimulate the economy. Rich people will always find ways to protect their wealth.

XenoBitch · 05/05/2025 23:52

You are someone at the top... I am someone at the bottom (I am on UC). We are both being shafted. Not sure what the solution is.

ReplacementBusService · 05/05/2025 23:52

Ihavehadenough1345 · 05/05/2025 23:44

My leaders might also deny my DGC the right to private education and send them to the local comp where the GCSE pass rate at grade 5+ is average 23%.

Am I really societies problem? I am a proud tax payer but according to the state it’s not enough.

I dunno if you noticed, but @FullOfLemons was maybe being ironic..... Your sense of humour has been taxed out of you. This is very sad.

redsunsets · 05/05/2025 23:57

It will take hundreds of thousands of 'normal' taxpayers to replace the tax lost from more than 11,000 millionaires who have left the country. Let's hope the cuts in benefits gets that many in work and paying to replace the lost revenue. Many on Mumsnet don't see that with the Good riddance attitude to those that have gone and the tax revenues that have gone with them. It will only get worse unless we grow the economy but the chancellor's decisions so far have hammered business where the growth has to come from. Economies don't grow with increases in public services and nothing to pay for it from private sector. I don't see it ending well.

XenoBitch · 05/05/2025 23:59

redsunsets · 05/05/2025 23:57

It will take hundreds of thousands of 'normal' taxpayers to replace the tax lost from more than 11,000 millionaires who have left the country. Let's hope the cuts in benefits gets that many in work and paying to replace the lost revenue. Many on Mumsnet don't see that with the Good riddance attitude to those that have gone and the tax revenues that have gone with them. It will only get worse unless we grow the economy but the chancellor's decisions so far have hammered business where the growth has to come from. Economies don't grow with increases in public services and nothing to pay for it from private sector. I don't see it ending well.

There are 1.9 jobseekers to every job right now. The benefit changes will mean more job seekers... they will be disabled people who are not deemed "disabled enough" to get benefits. They wont find jobs. They will just starve and die.

Ihavehadenough1345 · 06/05/2025 00:00

ReplacementBusService · 05/05/2025 23:52

I dunno if you noticed, but @FullOfLemons was maybe being ironic..... Your sense of humour has been taxed out of you. This is very sad.

I thought there was some jest in my response!

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Whybother618 · 06/05/2025 00:09

WanderInMyTime · 05/05/2025 23:09

What makes you think you should be able to purchase a luxury service without paying VAT? For someone running a business you don't appear to understand the principles of VAT very well....

What has VAT got to do with luxury goods or services?

For someone commenting on the imposition of VAT you don’t appear very well informed.

SnowFrogJelly · 06/05/2025 00:13

Of course YABU you send your DC to private school! Move them to state you will have a lot more money

seasonspuzzling · 06/05/2025 00:21

There is another thread running of “oh no you can’t report benefit fraud”

Ffs no wonder people who actually pay tax and all they get back is shitty non-existent services are leaving the UK if they can

Low aspiration mindset / crabs in a bucket - however you look at it the UK is not attractive

Ihavehadenough1345 · 06/05/2025 00:35

SnowFrogJelly · 06/05/2025 00:13

Of course YABU you send your DC to private school! Move them to state you will have a lot more money

This is the point, I can afford private school fees even with the imposition of VAT. I’ve not had enough of paying tax or VAT, it’s the moaning that the wealthy are ‘hoarding’ all the money, that we should pay more and more to ‘stimulate the economy’ and that we ‘are responsible for all of societies problems’, irony indeed!

As a PP said, the wealthy are also being shafted!

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JandamiHash · 06/05/2025 01:00

<Looks over at wealthy OP with kids in private school>

<Looks over at the 1 in 5 children living in poverty, 1 in 2 in some areas>

Yep you’re defo the real victim here OP.

Stop whining, if you don’t think the wealthy like you should be paying high tax then who?

JandamiHash · 06/05/2025 01:01

When disabled people claiming PIP are going to have their income vastly reduced - which has now been proven to have a knock on effect on other working people and our economy - I really do find it hard to sympathise with higher rate tax payers playing the “poor me” card

Wishiwasatailor · 06/05/2025 01:12

@Parsley1234 they aren't paying twice for their child's education. They are paying once towards educating this generation of children who will contribute to society that OP lives in and they choose to pay extra for their own child's education

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