Crime statistics by country of origin

[Zebedee999]

The government is proposing to publish crime statistics by country of origin.

A few weeks ago I mentioned some statistics from other European countries (and in fact the UK) showing that sex crimes against women by men of certain countries are 40 times those of the indigenous British. I got called racist (the stats are by country not race) and of course the stats were removed as racist.

Personally I think women's safety should be the overriding priority and such statistics should be used as part of a process to determine who can move to the UK. Why allow in men who statistically will carry out 40 times the sex crimes of the indigenous population? Let in women by all means.

I am genuinely interested why my view is racist when to me it is simply prioritising women's safety. AIBU to want immigration processes to prioritise women's safety?

Why? Are they rapists? If not, why is she worried!

because it’s not fair because rapists who are British citizens get to stay.

And he's just as welcome.

If I’m racist how do you account for me not having the same approach to women and girls from the same culture?

You're judging people by their race or nationality. This whole discussion is ridiculous because what you and the rest are suggesting isn't going to happen. But what was predicted is happening before the data has been released.

But I’m not judging the women and girls by their race or nationality?

So that’s everything then? Except religion….😵‍💫

Titter

It’s obvious we need to know who is statistically most likely to attack us!

Well as long as you and others who agree with you don't ever moan about the state of the NHS then, because however bad it is, it would be a lot worse without all the immigrants that work in it.

You're most likely going to be attacked by someone you know.

You understand that this is not about all immigrants yes?

how many immigrants working for the NHS are males from countries who are statistically much more likely to commit sexual violence against women and girls when living in Britain?

i would not have thought many.

Another trans bingo card argument 😂😂

women and girls would quite like to minimise the risk of being attacked by anyone Milo - much as that annoys men

We don't know because the stats haven't been released.

Indigenous implies that the country has been colonised and the original inhabitants have become a marginalised people in their own land.

Not the case for the British, who are in fact a colonial force.

You are talking about genetics if you start talking about indigenous British. Many British people are from immigrant backgrounds.

Basically what OP said makes no sense and anyway there's plenty of data openly available. Non British men do not disproportionately commit crime, despite what some sourceless line graph on X probably told you.

I really cannot understand women putting their heads up their arses and whistling Dixie, when it comes to taking notice of official sex crime data.

The itch to be able to say "I'm not a racist" must be an itch that must be itched, at any cost.

Yes, you are more likely to be raped by someone you know. That's true. Do you know where we get that fact from? We get it from official data. So you believe and trust that fact and so you should.

The fact that some nationalities are more likely to rape you also comes from official data. But you don't believe and trust that fact but you should.

Why do you cherry pick? Give me a minute to work it out.

Or maybe if there weren't so many immigrants making use of it, then it wouldn't need so many immigrant workers.

Mind blowing isn't it!

What's the percentage of immigrants in the UK?

@MonsteraDelicious

The majority of people from Britain (not all of course, but most) are not from "immigrant" backgrounds. Most British people, if they had a great grandparent from here, say, are likely to be "indigenous " as people stuck to their own counties and didn't move around until only relatively recently. If most people do a DNA test they are likely to have the result that their ancestors were from the British Isles. Britain wasn't some unpopulated wilderness compared to anywhere else!

We aren't as great a melting pot as the media like to portray. Yet.

It’s about 15%

I’m an immigrant. And I had to meet many requirements to get residency and then citizenship. And if I hadn’t met those requirements- which included showing that (gasp horror) I had enough money I wouldn’t have been allowed in.

I know why you cherry pick. It's because you're full of love and you enjoy throwing it out.

@MyOliveHelper obviously never visited Morocco or Egypt.

Regardless, the term indigenous means something different. The British are not a marginalised people displaced by colonial rule. You can't talk about cultural differences on the one hand and then use terms like indigenous British (and discussion of great grandparents and DNA) without making it clear you're suggesting a genetic predisposition to crime. Culture and genetics are two different things. When conversations go this way this quickly no wonder people are uncomfortable and concerned about eugenics.