Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

[jennylamb1]

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

Right, sorry, I wasn't quite clear.

His aunt and uncles I'm assuming? But if we are playing that game he won't get any security because they only get it when they are working

This is what he said in the interview. Where is the alternative view?

Because the posters thought that it was a ridiculous idea that security services would protect the main “target” and leave their direct family unsecured.

Quite. He actually has more privilege than working royals.

I meant in relation to who gets security @FenellaFeldman answered that one.

I do think that once Charles goes there'll be a big shakeup in the RF. In what shape or form that'll be will be interesting to see.

I'm not sure what the American system has to do with RAVEC, but Obama's children would certainly have had a security detail when they were minors. They're adults now.

It doesn’t matter what Harry says, he can say the earth is flat if he so wishes, doesn’t make it true. I don’t know how many more times I can say it, if Harry and/or his family want to come over he must inform the Home Office giving 28 days notice and security arrangements will be made, If you think our Security Services and the Home Office are liars and Harry is the font of all knowledge on National security then I can’t help you further.

He didn't ask to be born a prince. It would benefit his UK family, if they looked closer to home with their anger.
At dear randy Andy, vile specimen.

Which they paid for. Anyway it doesn’t have anything to do with RAVEC, it was a simple comment that doesn’t need the level of drilling you’re after

Harry's 'complaint' was comprehensively dismissed by 3 High Court judges, one of whom summed it all up by remarking that his grievances do not amount to a legal argument.

Do you believe these judges erred in their assessment?

Because it is ridiculous, we are not America, how America runs their National security has nothing to do with this thread.

You can't seriously believe that the minor children of a sitting president do not get police protection. Can you?

Of course this wasn't paid for privately! Don't be daft!

Whose anger? Harry's? Yes, he's been highly critical of all the senior royals bar Andrew. Strange.

So how do you know it doesn’t work the same here as standard ie Harry would be protected and Megan and the kids would not?

which is what multiple posters have said would never happen.

Imagine arguing against your child and grandchildren having security

She had to pay for their "plane ticket" as it were on her assigned first lady aircraft which seems a little weird tbh but I'm not American

They also had to pay for their own food at the Whitehouse but not the staff wages

Margaret thatcher once said they tried to charge her for an ironing board at number ten (as she was leaving) and she had to prove she bought her own in 😂 so I guess all governments are penny pinchers

Harry really doesn't help himself, does he? There are things he has done he can never take back now. He made things riskier for himself calling the Taliban he killed in the army chess pieces. Then there's all the digs at the royals, the push for a big media presence in the US and the claims of racism from senior royals, while trying to play the victim (wonder who coached him on that?) - all of it just draws in the wrong kind of attention from the wrong type of people.

He's a loose cannon the UK has no control over. By trying to cash in on dramatic stories, he's putting himself, Meghan, and the kids in more danger. Why should others be expected to step in and protect him from himself when it is likely he will stab them in back again and again?

It is only going to get worse. I have no doubts Harry is already planning his next steps either with publishers or netflix for when William ascends the throne. Attracting more undesirable attention.

Anyone can imagine imaginary situations.

Yes, the judgement was published. You can read most of it, some parts have been redacted for security reasons.
You can read the summary of the judges findings involved in the judicial review.

Listen to Michelle obamas podcast interview with Stephen Bartlett, this is literally what she said. There are snippets of it all over tiktok if you don’t want to listen to the whole thing.

they could pay for it, or presumably leave them at home as the White House is obviously secure. She talks in detail about it and it isn’t the first time she’s talked about all the things they had to pay for in the White House

Thankfully Charles hasn't done that. He has no say. He's not in Special Protection.

@AquaPeer Harry said in his book he received the news of the death of the Queen Mother alone in his bedroom at Eton. The phone call, I seem to recall, was coming from a low level member of staff of the RF - Harry framed this as an example of the lack of care from his family I think.

Why didn't his Dad call him to break this news? Well, because his Dad was skiiing on holiday with William..... and Harry. They were photographed by the press in a little photo shoot.

Harry has a proven history of lying framing his story in a way to garner sympathy for himself. Why would he sit in the bbc interview and say 'Well, I understand I need to give notice before I come to the UK and then a bespoke risk assessment is done and security provided in line with risk assessment. Alternatively, if/when I travel to the UK for state occassion (funeral/coronation) or a family matter - I'll be automatically entitled to full security because a) the nature of the event and b) I'd be be covered by my father's security/brother's security/security covering royal palaces' - that wouldn't be the sob story he's trying to portray.

If he doesn’t then we have to pay for it , are you happy with that?