Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

[jennylamb1]

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

Well said! It’s quite obvious that he is receiving a special adequate bespoke security arrangement for when he wishes to come here , all he has to do is give notice!
and should his family invite him , then he’s assured of receiving full protection.

There was an attempted entry at his home in Montecito recently. I'd be more worried about my families safety in the USA to be honest.

I lived near a Premiership football stadium and the police presence is definitely needed to keep the sheer number of travelling fans safe. The police working this kind of shift would be experts on crowd control so on horseback etc - not armed and protecting a VIP at close range.

I think pp facetious comment was about transfer of finances, not that Harry should be followed around by crowd control officers on horseback.

Harry lies.

A quibble, but there is never no risk, but you could say that about anyone.

I never said the taxpayer should pay for it.

Why do you not believe him?

Best he stay at home then.

No system is 100% perfect but RAVEC have an excellent record and will not want any harm to come to the King's son on their watch.

It's not the role of the security services to indulge the paranoia of the exiled 5th in line.

@LBFseBrom he has a history of not telling complete truths, reframing his experience of situations to his advantage - even in this court process vis a vis his offer to pay for security so people will take a ‘pinch of salt’ approach.

The issue is H wants 24/7 security globally so for UK tax payers or US tax payers to fund it. This has always been about him and his family being classed as IPP so someone else picks up the bill.

Excellent point
Only other possibility is that Charlie still believes the rumours that Harry isn't his, so is being spiteful 😲

It’s ironic really that he wants so much security for his “charity work” using massive resources to raise money, doesn’t seem economical to me.

I thought this was about security when he’s here?

I think it’s both @kirinm as in his interview he links security in UK to security elsewhere. The mechanics of the case was no more than did RAVEC apply its policy correctly, and if not, did it have ‘good reason’
However @serenster has (on another thread) outlined the link between his aim of not just getting RAVEC to reassess their decision making process but also come to a different conclusion and the link to IPP status - which the Sussexes referenced in their manifesto .
@AquaPeer I don’t think we can say this case was about Harry paying for security as I seem to recall (could be mistaken) that he only made the offer to pay after he had begun the legal challenge

This case was, but given how much security must be costing H&M ex-UK here's been speculation (and that's all it is) that the ultimate goal for the pair is IPP status...

A win for them in the UK courts might, perhaps, maybe, have given them leverage to pursue that claim...

As other posters have said his aim is IPP status.

H said the RF got other governments to withdraw security. What he is referring to is Canada, when they were in the planning stages of megxit they were living in Canada with UK and Canada providing/funding 24/7 security.

HMTLQ told them if they stepped down as a working royal (and as H moved down the line of succession) his security would change but H ignored her and was shocked when it was changed.

In retrospect Hs security should have changed perceptibly when George and then Charlotte were born. H would have hated it but it would have meant it was changed before M was on the scene.

But the assumption that his aim is IPP status is an interpretation from people on here? Or elsewhere?

In his interview he whines about other governments being told not to provide him with security. The only reason why they would as a matter of course would be if he had IPP status. Given the cost of IPP status to host countries very few people are given it.

Of course, if he had won his case all it would have meant is that RAVEC reassessed. They would likely have come to the same conclusion.

I am so.sick of Harry whining and moaning about absolutely everything.

He has so so much in life but I don't think I've ever heard him say thank you for what he has

He is so focussed on what he doesn't have, that he has completely forgotten to.look.around him and see what he DOES have.

The British tax payer DOES continue to fund his security when he comes here. He is always risk assessed. If the intelligence suggested a need for greater security when he visits, he'd get it.

We have funded this man since he was born. Everything he has is because the British people paid for it for him.

He has never said thank you for all that. Thank you for the life of privilege he has been afforded.

It's always 'but I didn't get as a much as Wils' or 'but I want that'

He looks so bloody miserable these days. Perhaps a dose of gratitude - to the British people, to his father, to his grandparents would help the boy feel a little happier and less bitter

He needs to open his eyes to what he has and stop moaning about what he doesn't.

He may complain it wasn't his choice to be born a royal. But NONE of us have a choice which family we were born into. Would he rather have been born in a council flat in Bradford with his dad in prison and his mum on crack? Because plenty of people are born into similar circumstances without choice. Do they whine and whinge about it constantly? Would he rather have been born in Sudan? In Gaza? In a war zone anywhere in the world?

None of us have a choice. He is lucky to have been born into the life he was. Of course there are disadvantages as there are inno matter which family you were born into! But Harry is the only human that bangs on about it and despite having lucked out in life's birthing lottery, he still can't seem to find any gratitude in his heart, or see how his moaning looks to people that are TRULY suffering.

It comes from the original Sussex Royal website that they created when they decided to "carve a progressive new role within the Institution" and "collaborate with the Queen".
They later deleted the claim about IPP status, but clearly, this is the main issue.

Excellent points, @CompletelyFlopped 👌

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14676249/Prince-Harry-unthinkable-security-risk.html

Did everyone see this story? Harry allegedly ordered a Deliveroo while with his friends in London last May.

I ran an event once involving a very senior royal and a few days prior to this a security team turned up to scope the area. In addition to their bodyguards on the ground, there were snipers (police) positioned on roofs above on the day, looking down on proceedings.
Every minute of the event had to be accounted for and every person who interacted with them directly named in advance.
It’s incredibly costly.

If H doesn’t want IPP level security why is he complaining other governments won’t provide it.