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Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

636 replies

jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

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jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:31

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 23:25

Let’s just say if RAVEC were to assess me I expect they would decide there was no risk. But I would still feel safer with an armed protection unit, especially walking home late at night.

Ah but that’s different you see!
you are not a high profile member of the royal family who is at great risk from being high profile!
the fact that Harry is so very high profile because he can’t stop splashing himself and his opinions all over the global media and internet and penning books of course is not his fault!!
and the fact he’s managed to offend and piss off people in high and low places is just unfortunate, he can’t be held to blame for likening his Taliban kills to chess pieces ♟️, how was he to know they would take great offence!

Genevieva · 03/05/2025 23:31

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:13

Is he not higher profile than other RF members? There is a lot of online animosity towards him & Meghan , maybe that makes him higher risk?

No. If he shut up and became the point to are citizen he claimed he wanted to be then everyone would forget about him.

He is also sufficiently far down the line of succession to be constitutionally irrelevant.

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:33

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:26

They already have it through my taxes . Maybe some can be diverted away from football clubs who can pay for their own security instead of tax payer funded police presence

No this is what you clearly don’t understand!! Your taxes have already been allocated, this will be an extra expense that hasn’t been accounted for !!
do you not understand that?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 23:34

He is also sufficiently far down the line of succession to be constitutionally irrelevant.

Exactly, he’s just not that important anymore to the constitution 🤷🏻‍♀️

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:35

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 23:28

So we should provide JK Rowling with armed met officers, 24/7 365 days per year? She receives death threats constantly, honestly think about it without emotion about what you are suggesting, every celebrity could demand what Harry wants if they get a nasty e mail, it’s completely financially unviable. Do you really want to pay a lot more tax from your pay packet to protect multi millionaires and Billionaires?

Well I did make that counter argument earlier that David beckham etc don’t get police protection. I supppse Harry is higher profile & at higher risk from being royal & being more controversial to most ppl than jk Rowling etc.
I guess it is what it is, he isn’t gong to get police security unless a threat has been identified. He doesnt want his family at risk do they won’t come to Uk.

kirinm · 03/05/2025 23:38

So if we don’t actually know what the security arrangements are why are people in this thread so adamant that he gets full police protection if he gives 28 days notice?

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:39

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:31

Ah but that’s different you see!
you are not a high profile member of the royal family who is at great risk from being high profile!
the fact that Harry is so very high profile because he can’t stop splashing himself and his opinions all over the global media and internet and penning books of course is not his fault!!
and the fact he’s managed to offend and piss off people in high and low places is just unfortunate, he can’t be held to blame for likening his Taliban kills to chess pieces ♟️, how was he to know they would take great offence!

But is it really his fault if one of his family are murdered just because they’ve made themselves so controversial? He’s not an evil person

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 23:40

kirinm · 03/05/2025 23:38

So if we don’t actually know what the security arrangements are why are people in this thread so adamant that he gets full police protection if he gives 28 days notice?

No one is saying he would get ‘full police protection’ they are saying he will get police protection appropriate for the risk.

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:42

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:33

No this is what you clearly don’t understand!! Your taxes have already been allocated, this will be an extra expense that hasn’t been accounted for !!
do you not understand that?

Divert it from football clubs

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 23:44

He doesnt want his family at risk do they won’t come to Uk.

Yet he will go to Colombia, Nigeria and Ukraine?

MoominMai · 03/05/2025 23:45

kirinm · 03/05/2025 23:38

So if we don’t actually know what the security arrangements are why are people in this thread so adamant that he gets full police protection if he gives 28 days notice?

He has to give 30 days not 28 days notice and he’s not guaranteed full protection but bespoke based on an assessment hence the notice period requirement. He won’t get the automatic full protection the other senior working Royals get given he’s not one of them any longer.

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:46

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 23:44

He doesnt want his family at risk do they won’t come to Uk.

Yet he will go to Colombia, Nigeria and Ukraine?

Where he can have armed security yes

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:47

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:39

But is it really his fault if one of his family are murdered just because they’ve made themselves so controversial? He’s not an evil person

Well normally if you are worried about your families safety you don’t normally brag about killing members of a notoriously violent terror organisation do you?

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 23:49

MoominMai · 03/05/2025 23:45

He has to give 30 days not 28 days notice and he’s not guaranteed full protection but bespoke based on an assessment hence the notice period requirement. He won’t get the automatic full protection the other senior working Royals get given he’s not one of them any longer.

Good. I don’t want to be paying for unnecessary levels of security and I definitely don’t want to be paying for that level of security to be on standby should he decide to pop on a private jet and fly over for 24 hours.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 23:50

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:46

Where he can have armed security yes

Armed security are hardly invulnerable when armed groups within the country’s borders are using missiles and bombs to attack the civilian population.

IAmATorturedPoet · 03/05/2025 23:51

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:42

Divert it from football clubs

Sorry but no.
Why should the security and safety of hundreds of individuals and families be sacrificed just to ease the paranoia of a millionaire.
Get out of it!

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:52

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:42

Divert it from football clubs

Do you know anything about how taxes are allocated and the government runs things?
seriously our economy is not good! It’s not recovered since before covid , cuts are being made to essential services, pensioners and disabled people are having their money cut , bins are not being emptied leading to a giant increase in vermin .
and you think the paltry amount it takes for normal unarmed police will cover Harry’s fully armed special forces armed protection!

1SillySossij · 03/05/2025 23:55

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:13

Is he not higher profile than other RF members? There is a lot of online animosity towards him & Meghan , maybe that makes him higher risk?

Harry is high risk because he is the monarch's son and is 5th in line to the throne. He didn't ask for that, and should be protected against the risk that flows from being in that position.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 23:56

1SillySossij · 03/05/2025 23:55

Harry is high risk because he is the monarch's son and is 5th in line to the throne. He didn't ask for that, and should be protected against the risk that flows from being in that position.

Which he is.

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:57

IAmATorturedPoet · 03/05/2025 23:51

Sorry but no.
Why should the security and safety of hundreds of individuals and families be sacrificed just to ease the paranoia of a millionaire.
Get out of it!

Football clubs can pay for private security

jeffgoldblum · 03/05/2025 23:57

1SillySossij · 03/05/2025 23:55

Harry is high risk because he is the monarch's son and is 5th in line to the throne. He didn't ask for that, and should be protected against the risk that flows from being in that position.

Quite right he should have exactly what the last monarchs son who was 5th in line to the throne received!

IAmATorturedPoet · 04/05/2025 00:00

JorgyPorgy · 03/05/2025 23:57

Football clubs can pay for private security

That’s not remotely possible.

jeffgoldblum · 04/05/2025 00:03

IAmATorturedPoet · 04/05/2025 00:00

That’s not remotely possible.

This poster doesn’t seem to understand the difference between the police who attend football matches to protect the public and the armed special police who Harry wants to protect him!
it’s like attempting to divert 100 pounds to pay off 1000 and wondering why the bills aren’t paid!

IAmATorturedPoet · 04/05/2025 00:43

Quite @jeffgoldblum
I’m struggling to see why this should be so difficult to understand.

He lost his appeal against RAVEC, there was no incorrect application of security arrangements. His current bespoke security arrangement is appropriate. He doesn’t need to have armed protection at his beck and call 24/7 at an additional (huge) expense to us, the tax payer.

It’s crazy talk to also be saying we should be accommodating his demands by looking at diverting manpower and/or money from other areas just to pander to this man’s hugely inflated sense of entitlement.

It’s case closed (or should be) and he really needs to move on now.