To not understand why Farage needs to be so smug and flippant about people losing their job?

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Just seen reports of the speech in which Nigel Farage tells council staff who are employed on DEI initiatives and climate change to “find new careers”.

I get Reform view these things as a waste of public money, and if they’ve been democratically elected on that mandate, then those departments will be cut.

However, whatever you think of those departments, the people he’s talking about are about to lose their livelihoods. They’ll have bills and families. I’m not saying that means they’re immune to cuts or they shouldn’t lose their jobs. I just don’t know why he feels the need to be so shitty about it.

The number of non-jobs is so very tiny that it will save just about enough money to, I don’t know, give a couple of kids the EHCPs they are currently being refused.

It probably won’t even cover the redundancy payments.

Because Farage would quite happily fire any protected class on that basis alone if he thought he could make it fall under the Trump definition of "DEI" - whether they're women or trans folk, wouldn't really matter.

Because he's a cunt?

Also, this.

How do you perceive the results for Labour, more importantly?

Asking for a link, really?

I don't think you can really draw any massive conclusions - these were predominantly Conservative-held councils where Labour tend to lose anyway. On top of that, it's pretty normal for an incumbent government to do badly in a council election.

If the same happens when the rest of the councils have elections, it'll be a pretty clear signal that Labour are a one-term government though. At least as a majority government; I'd say the next term will likely be a coalition with the Lib Dems (since the incumbents get first crack at forming a government).

Labour are moving into Lib-Dem territory and Reform are moving into the spot that Labour used to fill, the party of the working-class.

What is the Trump definition? Women have been getting fired. That's precisely why I have been with DEI/EDI

Highly unlikely they will lose their jobs, councils REALLY aren't keen on paying redundancy out - so they will be redeployed to alternative vacant roles.
These 'vacant roles' are usually from staff leaving or retiring.
The choice will then be up to the individual whether they stay in albeit in a different job - or find something else.

That’s right. How astute you are. 🙄

That's exactly my point, FFS. Anybody whose employment can be finagled into "they were hired because of DEI" is fair game according to idiots like Trump and Farage, and it doesn't matter whether those people are termed "DEI hires" because they're women or trans or disabled or of any other protected class. It doesn't even matter if they were DEI hires in the first place; membership of a protected class is all it takes.

My point is that it doesn't matter which protected class they're part of, which is why the Supreme Court case doesn't make any difference.

I don't know how to say it any clearer.

Durham Council has been tackling these shops. We've had closure orders slapped on 3 near us just in the past 6 months.

I'm slightly amused at the idea that Reform would want the money spent on anything of the sort.

Keep a copy of that

I’m guessing that when FWS lost in the lower courts there were no messages of support for women and LGB people?

I don’t think it quite understands what powers Councillors have … they can’t sack Officers, they can’t change work contracts, they can’t order people back into the office, they don’t hire, they don’t interview, they don’t input into HR policy (which is mostly governed by law).

Exactly what I was thinking. DEI “experts” have gleefully hounded women out of their roles (see the jumped up woman from NHS Fife who deprived the tax payer of an intensive care nurse because she didn’t want to get undressed in front of a man). Climate zealots have given no a single shit about people losing their jobs in other industries so I fail to see why anyone should tiptoe around their feelings now.

https://supremecourt.uk/uploads/uksc_2024_0042_judgment_aea6c48cee.pdf

And neither main party have been tackling money laundering shops such as Turkish barbers, nail bars, american candy shops, crap mobile phone accessory shops, hand car washes, etc., which are now prevalant on shopping areas all over the regions and have been growing in numbers for years.

The Labour-run Westminster council have had a huge crackdown on money-laundering ‘American candy stores’. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13644593/amp/The-changing-face-Oxford-Street-Britains-busiest-shopping-street-cleaned-act-overrun-controversial-candy-stores-vape-shops.html

How will that pan out? We have a vacancy for a planning officer - let’s just redeploy an equality officer with no planning qualifications into it.

If there are the ruling party or cabinet members, they can absolutely input into most of these things.

Only within the law. A lot of the stuff they’re proposing would see them taken to employment tribunals if they attempted it. It’s going to be highly entertaining unless you’re unfortunate enough to live in area with a Reform council.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exactly
There is distinct and absolute value to their jobs
I would actually love their jobs not to exist, as that would mean we lived in an equal world. But we don't