Reform winning big

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Reform had a good night, winning county councils, probably will win a mayoral seat and won the parliamentary by election also.

You don’t have to be a Reform voter to acknowledge that they are taking votes off Labour. Or that they are being electorally effective.

No doubt the ‘basket of deplorables’ crowd will be along in a min with their usual quips calling reform voters names, having learned absolutely 0 from Brexit. Insult the voters at your peril.

These same people also totally miss the point that winning is winning. Feeling all moral and superior about ‘oh well, what will they actually do’ changes nothing.

Perhaps those who label everyone that wants immigration limiting as ‘racist’ Will think again. But likely not.

We shouldn't be importing more people here to deliver takeaways. There's plenty of people here already (British and foreign). There's idle young men on every street corner.

It all sounds a bit 'Kinder, Küche, Kirche'.

Ukraine refugees were women and children fleeing war.

Not endless uncetted/uninvited/undocumented young men from god knows where.

I saw her comment and was disgusted! I have some very close friends who are from South Africa. They work very hard, pay their taxes and have never claimed benefits. Her comment proved they are a party of bigots and racists! If they were to win the next GE I can see civil unrest ensuing!

It's one seat. They've still got an enormous, what is it...five seats since they kicked out Rupert Lowe? The next GE is still four years away. Realistically this changes nothing.

I agree wholeheartedly with you OP. If nothing else I'm glad they are shaking the shit show of the other two parties and their pathetic governance into panic.

I voted Reform,no idea if the candidate won yet.I was in London Monday,my how this Country has gone downhill,things need to change.

Agreed. Cambridge University Press dictionary recognises 'win big'. Shock news: language evolves, and doesn't always stick to the 'rules'.
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/win-big

Welsh Labour have killed the tourism industry with their insistence on 182 days let or double/triple council tax and no business rates with small business rates relief. This has led to swathes coming out of the tourism industry, large attractions closing their doors, shops, restaurants and cafes all shutting up shop because there are no tourists and a flood of tourism accommodation on the market at prices locals even if they wanted to buy cant afford. Welsh people are waking up to the fact that whilst bash the tourist trade and blame them for the housing crisis sounds like great rhetoric, in practice it now means the loss of thousands of part time jobs in primary employers and a huge effect on secondary and tertiary providers. Plumbers and electricians are seeing their work go down by 50% because they no longer have tourism accommodation and attractions to do work for. Some areas in Wales are rowing back on this but overall Welsh Labour have fucked the economy in Wales and will be thrown out at the next election. And Mark D knows it. Will it be Reform? I will be interested to see their tourism policies because if they row back on the catastrophic damage he has done then yes, they will do well.

It’s changing policies already. Look at Labour trying to appeal with various headlines and policies around migration.

And that was before the swing today.

What sort of policies to support SAHPs are you expecting? Are you expecting financial help to stay at home? If so, given the state of the public finances and the fact that Reform are in favour of reducing taxes, how would this be paid for?

@mummymeisterI’m sorry to hear that. It’s concerning. It means that Labour safe seats may not be so, Wales typically wouldn’t vote for Conservative but they might Reform.

I know there are many more votes to be counted, but interestingly it's the Conservatives who are being hit the hardest. Labour have so far only lost 15 seats whereas the Conservatives have lost 71!

Sorry, I also agreed with your point and was adding on to it. I didn’t come across well as was in a hurry.

Absolutely, I refuse to let my value and impact as a mother be talked down or devalued by anybody, I know my own worth to my children and family. Society used to as well.

I see the usual suspects come onto the thread with it must be AI, you are stupid, the voters are stupid etc (not them of course!)

You will ignore Farage at your peril.

I won't be calling anyone names. Shame the losing Reform candidate for the West of England Mayor election couldn't manage to be a bit more gracious and saw fit to call other people names when interviewed on TV this morning.
(Not actually surprised, though.)

They had more, 2021 was a high point. And a low point for Labour, which has now gone down.

You’re not the first person to say that to me to today. I work in the NHS which as we know is multicultural and there is a feeling of worse to come. Hopefully Reform will continue to show their true colours before the next GE and like nasty Nige’s previous incantations will be kicked down the path.

Yes, the link below sets this out. Reform is a registered political party and has to follow the same rules on declaring donations as other parties.

My DH would agree with you, he hasn’t voted at all for years. He is absolutely sick of the lot of them! Completely alienating voters like this is also very worrying in my opinion…

Certainly not taxing the rich. He's been on a donations tour sucking up to the tax haven millionaires recently, he'll need to keep them sweet. Plus, we know he's a Trump worshipper, who thinks he can do no wrong. He'll replicate how it is over there. Tax breaks for his millionaire chums, cuts, rocketing costs and crumbling services for the little people.

Yes, I agree with this, what has happened to the BBC, investigative, impartial journalism seems to have gone out of the window. They seem to think appearing balanced means kowtowing to Reform and extreme right wing propaganda, like it's actually a valid political stance. It is the same for their reporting on Trump. The media have so much influence and should therefore be responsible with their reporting on this.

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Did you listen to a different speech? I thought her speech was really good.