To be really worried about Reform?

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Just that really. They’re predicted to gain the most from the upcoming elections, if this carries on could we see a reform government at the next general elections? Or is it press scaremongering as usual?

They are constantly bickering with each other on X attacking each other, the only policy as far as I can see that has united the people is their Anti immigration policy

I think Reform will do well in the locals and win the by-election. I think it may do well in Wales next year.

Then there will be plenty of time for the fall out from that success to expose Reform for the one trick pony it is.

Then it will be internal war.

Then by 2029 Reform will have gone the way of UKIP and the Brexit party. Farage will then set up yet another xenophobic party or perhaps retire on the proceeds of the foolish who have bankrolled him.

Yes I agree. I’m also not a reform voter but sick of the attitude on mn that only one political opinion is acceptable.

Im a conservative voter - i always have been and always will be. I know some conservative voters who will vote reform tomorrow as they believe they are more conservative than the current conservatives. Do i think Reform will do well tomorrow - probably. Do i i think they will run the country? No.

@AbigfanofDogs
Very good question!
Ironically back to DH country South Africa.

You mentioned various countries in Europe, but what about South Africa? Could you work there or do you have to be able to speak Afrikaans and Xhosa?

Yes, we own a property abroad and DH is an EU citizen so we can stay longer.
We will sell our property here and buy a small city centre flat or similar so we have a UK base and in case The DC need it and may buy a camper van to travel in Europe too

Which EU country do you mean? I’m wondering where you’d go that avoids similar issues

At least make your misinformation believable.

Seen it with my own eyes, in-laws have seen it on a few occasions as they live very close. Which bit are you struggling to believe? I named the hotel so you can fact check that it is housing immigrants. I’ve also said I’m pro immigration in the right way.

Nowhere is perfect but I imagine we would mostly be in Spain/Portugal and Germany.
Which issues do you mean? Having Farage and reform in power?
Nowhere else that might happen

Doesn’t really bother me. It’s council elections. Not a real one. 🤷‍♀️

Germany has a similar political pressures atm. Not sure about the other two.

Yeah and I hope you can afford it when they privatise the NHS and prescription prices go through the roof! Nigel Farage hasn’t hidden the fact that he believes that we need to go to an insurance based system. Nigel Farage also supported the disastrous tax cuts that Liz Truss introduced because they benefited the rich.

I don’t understand why ordinary people think that a public educated, banker who cheated on his European expenses to pay his wife, cares about the ordinary people. All he has to do is mention immigrants and people think he has their best interests at heart and he’s one of them.

They will have trouble finding an open polling station tomorrow!

Do you have x-ray eyes that can see what is happening inside the hotel?

Our economy is in the shitter due to Farage’s precious Brexit which is costing us billions a year in lost trade and associated tax receipts.

Despite constantly being photographed in Barbour and wellies, he has also sold out the farmers with his support for importing chlorinated chicken as part of a US trade deal.

He wants us to move to a US style healthcare set up.

He's the ultimate snake oil salesman.

If this country makes him PM, DH will insist we return to his native Australia. The idiocracy will have been established in the UK and we will watch the death spiral from a good distance.

Nevertheless, despite the antipathy of much of the electorate and the constant media promotion of man who is never asked detailed follow up questions by journalists on how he would achieve his ideas, costs and impact included, I am confident there are enough voters who are not batshit or will not vote for people they’d like to hang out at a pub with.

Germany does not have Farage

How are they able to register with no UK visa? Many HO hotels have security. How are they getting past security?

France, Germany and other European countries seem to cope with an insurance based health system, so why do you think it wouldn't work here?

Everyone moans here about the NHS and wants it to be better but no one wants to be the one to pay for better services.

The other parties simply aren't listening to the issues that working class people are raising.

What are those issues?

This is nothing to do with class. It’s to do with education. I could form my own party tomorrow and promise an end to asylum seekers in the UK, no more tax to pay on anything and free steaks for everyone on Fridays. Whether people believe I could deliver on that is entirely down to how
educated they are.

I agree. I’m instinctively very pro-immigration (both high volume and high selectiveness, a combination that few counties have the luxury of choosing but we do), and despair at how both parties have managed the issue. Policies from both parties often seem designed to combine sub-par economic benefit with maximum unpopularity.

That's not true though is it, who is looking at the U.S saying, "that's the way to do it!"

Labour have been in for around 9 months they have years of shit to clear up after the fiasco of the Tories and I say that as someone who won't be voting for anyone.