To be really worried about Reform?

[FiveHorse]

Just that really. They’re predicted to gain the most from the upcoming elections, if this carries on could we see a reform government at the next general elections? Or is it press scaremongering as usual?

Who cares why? The point is you can't take them back to France.

I’m not even sure what people are arguing for beyond supporting Labour.

Why are crossings the way to do this anyway? And no ‘safe routes’ is not the fix. We can’t meet the demand.

I’d bet once a party gets mandate to put in an Aus system it’ll be like there, no one would vote it out.

If you had hayfever and two different medications weren't working, would you try drinking antifreeze just for something different?

Reform have 0 history, 0 costings to their policies and a leader who is a currently elected MP who has done 0 for his constituents.

@PandoraSocks

France already takes in hundreds of thousands more refugees than the UK.

True. It’s why they are keen on allowing (in some cases assisting) them to cross the channel. They are also bursting at the seams.

No country can meet the demand. But while we have unsafe countries with human beings facing persecution, torture and death...we have to do as much as we can.

Options are - make all the countries in the world equal and safe (😏) or help the people that want to avoid living in hell when they make it here.

What the main parties have done to the country is far worse than what reform have said they want to do.

Apparently Cooper has come to an agreement with France, that they'll stop them when they're in the water. France currently refuse to do it.

That's because Reform aren't in power and haven't had to actually do anyhting.

It's easy to coach from the sidelines....

We are told we can't meet the demand... But yet far poorer countries than us take far more refugees.
Immigrants aren't the reason the NHS and schools are at breaking point, despite what Reform might tell you.

Which Reform policies are you keen on? At a local and national level?

Can you tell us what they want to do to improve the country?

You can do humanitarian schemes if you want and the electorate are ok with that.

Once you stop crossings as Aus have you’ll find they become unpalatable quickly, and no politician will run on going back.

Yes, that's why I want them in power.

Can you say which of their policies you think will improve the country?

So much anguish about refugees

But yet far poorer countries than us take far more refugees.

Name them and demonstrate it has made them better off

I don’t really listen to Reform but I am interested in how politics is changing.

Can you say how many you think we should grant?

@DuncinToffee

If you have some spare rooms in your house maybe can provide them for free

Ummmm, yes I know. And so does everyone else. I believe voters are turning to reform because they want immigration ( of ALL kinds) reduced. It just comes across as incredibly patronising to presume people ( especially working class ones), don't know the difference and are voting reform due to a hyperbolic daily mail headline grabber. Give people more credit than that.

But what happens when everyone who has an authentic base to claim asylum, does so? Small parts of the globe heavily overpopulated while large underpopulated swathes are ruled by dictators?

You miss the fundamental point.

The trend for the last 25 years has been for voters to largely vote AGAINST a party rather than positively FOR against.

Thus a governing party sets policy and the public vote against it, rather than for an alternative.

Part of the campaign strategy for the official Vote Leave campaign was to tune into public disaffection. Cummings admitted this. They highlighted failings but did not offer or provide solutions (policies).

So when you ask someone considering voting for Reform what policies they are voting for, you are asking the wrong question.

You should ask what policies of the governing party and traditional other parties (who have all held power in the last 15 years) they dislike. You will find your answers there...

Australia had migrants coming from nearby countries. They returned those migrants back to their country of origin. We cannot do this.

This isn’t the same as asylum grants anyway. Last headline was 100k

What are Reform's plans to stop all immigration?

Oh, I haven't heard that suggestion for a while