To be really worried about Reform?

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Just that really. They’re predicted to gain the most from the upcoming elections, if this carries on could we see a reform government at the next general elections? Or is it press scaremongering as usual?

Racism. They hate immigrants. They particularly hate refugees, brown ones anyway.
And so apparently do large numbers of Brits.
Nothing more or less.
Their policies don't matter. As long as they spout racism they will get votes .

Which Reform policies do you think will benefit us all?

Aaah when a leftie is contradicted, doesn’t take long for racism, discrimination and xenophobia to show its head, does it?

The left doesn’t like its own poor
The left doesn’t like migrants if they are not ‘the right kind’

The left actually believes they are superior to everyone else, same patronising and contemptuous mentality as the Victorian upper ruling classes, thinking we should all be humble and grateful for their charity

thanks for showing it :)

I don’t know how many more ways reform supporters can be told that it is not illegal to claim asylum, regardless of the route of entry.

the only people here illegally are visa overstayers and asylum seekers who have had their claims denied. Both of these groups can be and are deported regularly.

The benefits are £9/week if their accommodation includes food and £49 if it doesn’t. A maximum of £200 a month, you really think that’s what’s breaking this country?!

Also, you know refugee camps will have to be paid to be built and run? That’s not free. Why not use the buildings that already exist to save money. Where do you propose to build these sprawling refugee camps? I can’t imagine many people will be signing up to have tent cities in their area 🤦🏻‍♀️

Please think critically and go into more detail. What policies haven’t benefited us? I personally would have grown up in abject poverty if it wasn’t for Labour. I also see a lot of improvement since the Convervatives were voted out. Especially as I work in the NHS.

There has also been substantial improvements in sustainable energy which will hopefully bring down costs for business and households.

Road works everywhere where I live, decreased crime, decreased litter, I can see change because thank god we aren’t conservative anymore.

Even illegal immigration is being addressed, it’s not plastered over the news daily (good).

Tell me what has Farage done recently apart from bend over for Trump and Elon and spout some racist, dog-whisle bullshit when he emerges from his rock.

I lost you when you said thick

And why not take away their rights whilst you at it.

Bit of slave labour as well maybe

Precisely. Hate that you are right, you are right and brave to say it as it.

Reform wants insurance-based health care, lower food standards, damage to our farming and fishing businesses, closer alignment with Trump’s America, and further barriers to our European trade.

but small boats.......

Apparently saying this truth out loud drives people to vote Reform. But this thread proves it is true.

Where is the analysis of Reform's policies by its supporters on this thread? Almost nowhere to be seen. It is all immigrants this, immigrants that, with a casual sprinkling of ableism here and there.

Genuinely, I’m begging at this point. Please can someone with some knowledge of reform, tell me what their ground breaking policy on migration is.

Definitely no decreased crime or litter here. The opposite for the latter is visible.

Labour do have some supporters still, especially on mn, but they are losing it generally.

What about the Tories? It's mostly their voters who are turning to Reform

Yes, exactly. By-election aside, the elections on Thursday mostly involve Tory run councils.

Labour are not doing well at all in many ways, but these elections aren't Labour's to lose to Reform, but the Tories. Labour losing the by-election to Reform will not be good either of course.

Who told you I was a Reform supporter?
Because I am not a naice leftie, I must be a deplorable. Again, who is polarising the discussion here? Not me.

Regarding your point, I totally agree there should be an asylum mechanism available for everyone.

But the asylum system in the UK is broken. It is being abused by the thousands of bogus claims (half of Albania is claiming asylum in the UK for non-existent discrimination if you allow me the hyperbole), the many, many years it takes to take a final decision (while claimants are allowed to stay in the UK), and the very slow follow-up to implement repatriations etc.

There use to be some distinct between labour and cons. Labour was the working class party. Now they are as bad as each other and people want better. Even the middle class who previously thrived under conservative rule had had enough of them by the last election.

The problem with Nigel farage is he’s good at telling people what they want to hear regardless of wether it’s true or possible.

We only have to look at America to know any cu next Tuesday can be in charge

The majority of asylum claims get granted and it was the Tories who broke the asylum system which is why there is a massive backlog.

Are you a naice righty then?

Don’t worry, they’re just a vehicle for the protest votes. Like the Greens. But at least the Greens have been a force for good and the mainstream parties try and take some greenery on board.

Hardly. They're a haven for perverts and only care about gender woo.

To reduce uncontrolled immigration requires the following:

Leave the ECHR

Deport illegals to their point of origin. Both Denmark and Germany have successfully deported all illegals who had arrived from Albania on the basis that Albania is not classed as a dangerous country.

Law to be changed to prevent anyone who arrived from a safe country claiming asylum and citizenship.

Those who have obtained citizenship, but later commit crime shall have their citizenship revoked and shall return to their point of origin.

Those on student visas shall not be allowed to invite dependents unless they prove they can pay for them themselves. The visas issued will include the caveat that there will be no recourse to UK public funds whilst dependents are in the UK.

Only those who have been resident and employed in the UK for 5 years are entitled to benefits.

Employers who hire non UK citizens will be subject to higher National Insurance and the employee will have reduced tax code. I was subject to this when I worked in Malaysia.

What they said. The asylum systek is broken. Applications need processing much faster. But we grant around 70% of applications so the majority are not bogus.

The interchanging of the words migrant, illegal and asylum seeker are infuriating. It’s this lack of knowledge and understanding that causes the “breading point” hysteria Farage has been pedalling for years.

I don't know of it's ground breaking or alarming but it involves
leaving the EHCR
returning the small boats to France
no dependents on student visas
a big NI tax on employers picking overseas people.

The other bits like deporting illegal people and criminals and having immigration criteria seem mainstream.

Faster processing will be more attractive. You’ll just have higher crossings.

The criteria won’t change. You’ll either be eligible or you won’t. If more people are eligible, they’re eligible.