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Another family wedding where my eldest is excluded - a year on

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Stuckinthemiddlewithnoone · 26/04/2025 15:20

12 year old wants to go to wedding where sister hasn't been invited | Mumsnet

This was my thread from almost a year ago and it's happened again.

Younger one invited but not older one, this time the brother of the original groom.

Younger one went with her gran and the rest of the family and we stayed at home. It's set a horrible precedent.

My husband isn't doing anything and younger one going on her own again.

The family clearly want to make some bizarre point.

I genuinely believed that this wouldn't happen again, only last week husband was at his mother's with the father of the groom and nobody said anything. My mother-in-law won't get involved but thinks we made too much of an issue last time and we should have asked for an invitation grovelled for my eldest daughter instead of declining with dignity.

I don't think this is against my daughter, I think this is payback for last time.

12 year old wants to go to wedding where sister hasn't been invited | Mumsnet

Essentially we have declined an invitation to husband’s nephew’s wedding in the summer as he has not invited my 15 year old daughter (16 by the time o...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5069694-12-year-old-wants-to-go-to-wedding-where-sister-hasnt-been-invited

OP posts:
Peaceandquietandacuppa · 26/04/2025 23:17

Bigfatsunandclouds · 26/04/2025 15:57

I thought the first time was cruel but doing it a second time knowing how much upset it caused is unforgivable in my eyes. I wouldn't let younger child go this time.

Yep - weekend away for the win. Husband can do one if he won’t back you up!

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:17

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/04/2025 23:15

@Stuckinthemiddlewithnoone woe betide them if they ever have to go through what they are putting your family through!!! I still feel it should be the whole family or none of you going. mil should not be encouraging dd2 to go with her instead. that is also not fair so this is partially on mil's head too!! when i mentioned previously about booking a holiday at the same time as the wedding, I meant for all of you to go.

Edited

But OP doesn't have that power.
Because I'd bet DH will choose his daughter and his family over his step daughter

And I doubt that's a game OP wants to start playing.

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:25

RescueTurtle · 26/04/2025 23:15

Why do you keep calling her “a half sister”? She is her sister, that is the end of it.

Yep. I've never heard of siblings who share the same mother and have always been raised in the same household to ever consider their siblings to be 'half' sisters or brothers.

elfendom · 26/04/2025 23:25

I think you need to have a word with your youngest. The wedding is one day, she can get over it. None of you should go.

CandidRobin · 26/04/2025 23:27

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 22:33

That would be up to the bride and groom.

Normally it would, but OP seems to think it's up to her to decide who the bride and groom invite to their wedding according to her view of what family constitutes.

MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot · 26/04/2025 23:31

I think your DH’s family are being unbelievably cruel. I know blended families can be tricky but you have been a foursome for a long time now and to exclude your eldest is just horrible.

Honestly I wouldn’t bother with any of them.

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:35

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:16

Because that is literally the point of this whole drama.

She is her HALF Sister. And you, OP and everyone else can lie to yourselves but the most important person there. Dd2 sees her as her HALF Sister.

And this is not the HALF she's sharing.

I really doubt she does see her that way, more like she's just using it as a trump card over this matter.

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:40

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:35

I really doubt she does see her that way, more like she's just using it as a trump card over this matter.

Of course that's how she sees her.
She is her half sister.
That's a fact.
You want to add emotion and connotations to that word.

She is not her paternal families relative.

I think what they've done os abhorrent
But OP actually holds no power here.

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:45

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:08

And yet she's posting on here, and seems conflicted, and if her husband was in favour of banning her then I think the OP would make that decision too.

That doesn’t mean she isn’t aware of the fallout that would result in (trying to) prevent her daughter from attending.

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:46

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:40

Of course that's how she sees her.
She is her half sister.
That's a fact.
You want to add emotion and connotations to that word.

She is not her paternal families relative.

I think what they've done os abhorrent
But OP actually holds no power here.

That's not how children generally feel when they share the same mother and have always lived with them.

That's not me adding emotions and connotations to the word, it's me stating a fact.

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:46

elfendom · 26/04/2025 23:25

I think you need to have a word with your youngest. The wedding is one day, she can get over it. None of you should go.

Except she has made herself clear, and her daughter doesn’t share her opinion. Thankfully, she has the support of her father.

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:47

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:46

That's not how children generally feel when they share the same mother and have always lived with them.

That's not me adding emotions and connotations to the word, it's me stating a fact.

No, it’s you stating your own experience and believing the same is true for everyone. It isn’t. I’ve known plenty of half siblings that share the same mother refer to their half siblings as just that.

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:48

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:46

That's not how children generally feel when they share the same mother and have always lived with them.

That's not me adding emotions and connotations to the word, it's me stating a fact.

Well I know some who do.
There are posters here who've felt the same.

She is a half sister. That's a fact.

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:48

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 26/04/2025 23:17

Yep - weekend away for the win. Husband can do one if he won’t back you up!

And that would result in a very clear split, wouldn’t it? Op and her eldest on one side, her husband and youngest on the other. Op isn’t in a position where she can dismiss either of their opinions.

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:49

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:45

That doesn’t mean she isn’t aware of the fallout that would result in (trying to) prevent her daughter from attending.

Yes but anticipating a fallout doesn't mean that you always go along with what your child wants. There are many situations where parents anticipate that their child won't react well to the decision but they make the decision anyway and deal with the fallout.

As I've already said I'd let her feel her feelings, but if the anger etc persisted then I would be tackling it.

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:52

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:49

Yes but anticipating a fallout doesn't mean that you always go along with what your child wants. There are many situations where parents anticipate that their child won't react well to the decision but they make the decision anyway and deal with the fallout.

As I've already said I'd let her feel her feelings, but if the anger etc persisted then I would be tackling it.

And how would you do that?

Because children are autonomous beings.
What if she never agreed?
What if she believed you wrong into adulthood?

The reality is that the main participants have an agreed upon thought.
OP doesn't agree. That's fine. But she can't beat her child into submission.

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:55

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:52

And how would you do that?

Because children are autonomous beings.
What if she never agreed?
What if she believed you wrong into adulthood?

The reality is that the main participants have an agreed upon thought.
OP doesn't agree. That's fine. But she can't beat her child into submission.

If she believed I was wrong into adulthood then I would think she had serious issues tbh. Children generally mature as they get older and can see things from a different perspective.

nomas · 26/04/2025 23:56

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 22:54

And for all we know the other side of the family could pull her away further or she might get further away if this kind of thing isn't tackled because they're afraid of the fallout.

So all people can do is make the decisions that they feel are right for their own families.

Yes, and OP has made the decision to let her younger dd go to the wedding.

Unfortunately for many people blood is still deemed thicker than water. I completely disagree with the groom’s decision but there is no point alienating dd2 from her dad’s family when she wants to be a part of it. Perhaps she feels that her elder sister has a second family as well, through her bio dad, which dd2 isn’t a part of.

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:56

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:49

Yes but anticipating a fallout doesn't mean that you always go along with what your child wants. There are many situations where parents anticipate that their child won't react well to the decision but they make the decision anyway and deal with the fallout.

As I've already said I'd let her feel her feelings, but if the anger etc persisted then I would be tackling it.

It depends very much on if not doing so can result in greater harm, doesn’t it? ‘Dealing with the fallout’ - as if the fallout will be one you can ‘deal with’, and won’t blow up in your face in such a way you aren’t prepared for, and ultimately regret.

You cannot tackle it by trying to make a 14 year old feel what you want her to. If anything, you’ll succeed in achieving the exact opposite of what you want to.

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:59

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:55

If she believed I was wrong into adulthood then I would think she had serious issues tbh. Children generally mature as they get older and can see things from a different perspective.

Ironic, given how unwilling you are to consider any perspective or experience that doesn’t reflect your own.

Maturity does not mean holding the same opinions as your parents.

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:59

Jamum12 · 26/04/2025 23:55

If she believed I was wrong into adulthood then I would think she had serious issues tbh. Children generally mature as they get older and can see things from a different perspective.

But there's adults here who agree with them.

Would you see it from.their perspective?

And ultimately regardless of the belief.
OP loves her youngest and wants a relationship. So she can't cause long term damage to their own relationship.

Sisters don't have to be close. They may never be close and that's that.
But OP doesn't want to lose her daughter

Jamum12 · 27/04/2025 00:04

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:59

Ironic, given how unwilling you are to consider any perspective or experience that doesn’t reflect your own.

Maturity does not mean holding the same opinions as your parents.

Ironic also that you're the one who would say that to me seeing as your opinions are equally as rigid as mine.

BigHeadBertha · 27/04/2025 00:08

We have no way of knowing why your husband's nephews are doing this but it doesn't matter that much and is certainly nothing to get so mad about because these are only your husband's nephews, not even very close relatives. If they don't treat your family unit right, I'd quietly back off from them, that's all--- and I'd take my family with me.

My family is the one I care about the most, by far. I don't allow outsiders to drive wedges between us or pick and choose which of us they'll include and which they won't, pit us against each other etc. That gives them far too much power, which apparently some people just can't get enough of. That sort of thing has happened before with us and they found themselves quietly not included in MY family. Well, it took a while to catch on and to come up with our ground rules for that sort of thing but now it's automatic.

So, your younger daughter is a child, no one who should be calling the shots based on some imaginary idea you may have of the terrible things that will happen if she doesn't get her own way. Her not going to a cousin's wedding is not nearly as big of a deal as her being allowed to not side with her nuclear family and her sister. She's very young and won't know this if you don't teach it to her. Of course people like that look for the "weakest link," someone who is the easiest to use to drive a wedge so it's not surprising it's the youngest family member. She needs to be out of this, not used like a pawn in their weird games.

So, I suggest that you simply, calmly, stop this mess right now and do the same if anything like it comes up again in the future. Your husband sounds like he's pretty much ready to do whatever you want about it, so you've got this. Now, politely send your regrets for the wedding from your entire family. No reason is needed. You tried giving a reason last time and it worked against you, so now doing so can be considered a trap. Therefore, no more reasons. Your business can stay within your four family members. Others aren't to be given any information if they show they aren't on the side of your family unit and don't act appropriately with what they're told.

I'd plan a nice family trip for four that includes the date of the wedding. Tell your second CHILD that she can't go to the wedding because you four will be on a family trip during that time. And don't take it too seriously if she throws a fit. She's a kid and one who has been dragged into a tug-of-war she doesn't understand. Just send her to her room or something and get on with your life. It's been allowed to become too big of a thing, too much drama surrounding it. And if there's anything that draws young girls more than anything, it's drama. If it's not a big deal to you, it soon won't be a big deal to her, either, I'd wager. She's just picking up on all the tension surrounding the whole wedding issue.

See, you already tried letting daughter number two have what was allegedly "her" way and accept her invitation. It didn't work out so well. It didn't bring about any better results this time, just another attempt to drive a wedge through the middle of YOUR family. So that's the end of that. You tried but now, I'd say to remember that you, your husband and her sister are your younger daughter's main family, by far. Everybody else is a far second, and farther than that if they don't respect and honor your family unit, which they are not doing. Your younger daughter hasn't learned that yet because you have not modelled it nor acted as if you completely believe it yourself. But now you have another chance to do so, after trying to keep the peace. I'd also keep her doing things with you far more than hanging out at her grandmother's house, if her grandmother is part of trying to drive a wedge in YOUR family. Best wishes. :)

elfendom · 27/04/2025 00:09

Dinosaurshoebox · 26/04/2025 23:40

Of course that's how she sees her.
She is her half sister.
That's a fact.
You want to add emotion and connotations to that word.

She is not her paternal families relative.

I think what they've done os abhorrent
But OP actually holds no power here.

she holds no power, only if she is a passenger in her husband's life. She doesn't quite sound like she is that.

elfendom · 27/04/2025 00:12

InterIgnis · 26/04/2025 23:46

Except she has made herself clear, and her daughter doesn’t share her opinion. Thankfully, she has the support of her father.

that is why I said, have a word, a better word. Her daughter doesn't need to share her opinion but maybe there is room for further thought development.

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