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To think just don’t offer them beige food?

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Ashlll · 25/04/2025 15:23

Or am I spectacularly uneducated here? My sister has a 3 year old who apparently will only eat beige food and mostly crisps. She says it’s a sensory thing and we have to respect it when around him, for example when I took him and dd out last week I had to give him quavers rather than the snacks I had got for dd… which then made dd want quavers too! Same with water, he won’t drink it and it has to be juice.

I am not massively strict but did say to dsis just don’t buy these things then he won’t know he can ask for them… she says he just won’t eat or drink. I think this is ridiculous (I’ve not said this to her). AIBU?!?

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OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:08

YANBU - I used to look after DN when she was small, apparently terrible eating issues, she ate what we ate when she was with us (I didn’t force her, I just hadn’t appreciated it was a ‘thing’) but apparently she only eats a handle of things now and they have to be specific brands - big fuss made out of it.
another DN was a very fussy toddler, her parents stood their ground and she is a great chef and eats all sorts now as an adult. I’m sure some people have very genuine sensory needs but I don’t think it is as wide spread as suggested.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:09

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 25/04/2025 22:18

@mainecooncatonahottinroof

But they did eat before beige food was invented ! And why beige food, always? I think kids eat what they’re used to.

Nonsense!! The "beige food" I ate was mainly potatoes. I wouldn't eat rice then (I do now, just not that often), and pasta wasn't big in the 60s and 70s. Probably the only upf we ever had was occasionally fish fingers!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:11

LillyPJ · 25/04/2025 22:19

Not at all. I understand very well the pressures we face. It's very hard. But you can't deny that undeniable fact I stated which proves that it doesn't have to be this way. I am saddened that people don't want to hear that.

And I am saddened that you persistently seek to place the blame on parents and refuse to accept that this disorder, named or nameless, is a real thing, and it's hugely insulting to people who have suffered from it, and people whose children are going through it!

I don't know if I have ARFID or not and I don't particularly care either way at this stage of my life, but I know that I have always had disordered eating throughout my life!

What you say is NOT "an undeniable fact"!!

Yellowdresses · 25/04/2025 23:13

inthelonelyhour · 25/04/2025 19:49

I once worked with a child who wasn’t allowed ‘beige’ / ‘children’s food’ at all. The police were looking for them at least once a month when they kept running away from home in search for these foods that their friends were allowed but this child wasn’t. It was very sad.

With my children, I did the whole BLW, colourful foods, avoid sugar etc with mine. I now have one excellent eater and one who lost so much weight through food refusal (as in no weaning, first tastes at 18m, still only eats 2/3 safe foods) they were fed by NG tube. Would literally rather starve than eat. Parented the same. Official advice from several specialists saying feed them ANYTHING, no matter the sugar or nutritional content. Just get them to eat and drink.

I’m still in the Arfid situation, and I’m tearing my hair out at every meal time, every single day, but how I ever work back from that to get them to eat the ‘rainbow’ typed plate that is aspired to, I’ll never know. I don’t want this for my child or my family.

This wasn’t a choice. This was desperation to get my child to not starve. My friends and family do not understand it because they haven’t been in that position. The whole “just don’t give them beige foods” or “biscuit at breakfast?” judgement makes me feel like a failure and makes my life so much harder.

Sorry about your child, it sounds very hard, but not all children with UPF heavy diets have the same issues your child has, the OP wasn't criticising parents in your position, but parents who don't encourage their kids to eat a wide range of foods, or who give them beige breaded freezer food as it's easier for the parent.

OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:18

Some toddlers will have AFRID, the vast majority won’t. Treating every toddler who rejects new foods as a potential candidate for AFRID with no further investigation is unlikely to be helpful. The rule of thumb is that accommodations should benefit everyone, eating only beige food is not a good choice for everyone so it’s not an accommodation that should be taken lightly.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:18

godmum56 · 25/04/2025 22:43

I didn't go to primary school dinners but had to at secondary where the policy was sit till you finish. My lovely Mum used to save those polythene bags that stockings came in so I could scoop the inedibles into the bag, shove it in my pocket then bin it somwhere in the school. One time I got caught out and was made to eat some cabbage. I prijectile vommed it accross the table and shortly after that, sit till you finished was abandonned.

I was able to go home for lunch at primary school as we lived right next to it and I took packed lunches at secondary.

Some of the 'delights' I remember taking (and got laughed at for!) were stewed apple sandwiches or a slice of cake!! My parents had given up by then and were just desperate for me to eat anything I think!

Bless your mum!

Yellowdresses · 25/04/2025 23:31

The question of whether kids might be testing boundaries by refusing certain foods has been suggested a few times, but not considered by any of the parents of kids with restricted eating.

My DD when she started to reject foods she'd previously eaten was definately testing boundaries and trying to assert control, because that's what lots of 2 to 3 year olds do.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:34

Yellowdresses · 25/04/2025 23:31

The question of whether kids might be testing boundaries by refusing certain foods has been suggested a few times, but not considered by any of the parents of kids with restricted eating.

My DD when she started to reject foods she'd previously eaten was definately testing boundaries and trying to assert control, because that's what lots of 2 to 3 year olds do.

I definitely was NOT "testing boundaries"! There were certain foods I just couldn't eat and still can't.

Whose "boundaries" do you reckon I am "testing" now then?

If a child will not eat to the point of going hungry, then you can be pretty sure no "boundaries" are being "tested"!

FunMustard · 25/04/2025 23:43

The kid is three.

I've had three year olds, three of them. One would eat anything - the other two absolutely not. Fussy buggers the pair of them.

I didn't have time to negotiate with the small terrorists, so I made my life easier.

At 16? All three eat a wide variety of foods, all healthy, all healthy weights.

So I'd say honestly, keep your opinions to yourself. Sure you might be right, but you're only going to upset your sister and frustrate yourself.

PS I also doubt anything other than regular degular threenager behaviour.

FunMustard · 25/04/2025 23:44

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:34

I definitely was NOT "testing boundaries"! There were certain foods I just couldn't eat and still can't.

Whose "boundaries" do you reckon I am "testing" now then?

If a child will not eat to the point of going hungry, then you can be pretty sure no "boundaries" are being "tested"!

Then surely this doesn't refer to you? You don't have to take offense when you know this isn't the case for you?

OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:44

I definitely was NOT "testing boundaries"! There were certain foods I just couldn't eat and still can't

That sounds tough. But I don’t think this thread is about you or that you, specifically, don’t have problems with food.

People are suggesting that not all toddlers who refuse new foods are the same, which is sensible.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:46

FunMustard · 25/04/2025 23:44

Then surely this doesn't refer to you? You don't have to take offense when you know this isn't the case for you?

I believe I am permitted to disagree with a statement?

I haven't "taken offence" - I don't care enough to be bothered! - but I am tired of people minimising a problem!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:47

OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:44

I definitely was NOT "testing boundaries"! There were certain foods I just couldn't eat and still can't

That sounds tough. But I don’t think this thread is about you or that you, specifically, don’t have problems with food.

People are suggesting that not all toddlers who refuse new foods are the same, which is sensible.

But some may be, and there's been some quite disturbing posts written by people with first-hand experience.

OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:55

Yes a tiny percentage may be, most will not and treating them as the tiny percentage will do more harm than good.

Dramatic · 26/04/2025 00:01

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/04/2025 23:34

I definitely was NOT "testing boundaries"! There were certain foods I just couldn't eat and still can't.

Whose "boundaries" do you reckon I am "testing" now then?

If a child will not eat to the point of going hungry, then you can be pretty sure no "boundaries" are being "tested"!

Yeah I wasn't testing boundaries either, I just cannot tolerate some foods. I suppose people on here would consider my diet to be quite restricted but I just won't eat if I don't like what's on offer.

My fourth child is the same as me and I promised myself as a child that I would never force my kids to eat what they didn't like, she has a set few meals that she'll eat so I stick to that. I don't really care if people think I should be tougher, from personal experience that doesn't work and will just make her even less likely to ever want to try anything new.

Greenkindness · 26/04/2025 00:05

I have a child with a restricted diet. If we have company I offer what she’ll eat so she doesn’t make a fuss. Behind closed doors I try to get her to eat more. It’s the least embarrassing way when we have people over.

NaiceBalonz · 26/04/2025 00:07

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/04/2025 15:42

Not quoting people as I don't want to single people out, and its a very common idea anyway but...

Please, do NOT take it upon yourself to offer, bribe, tempt kids into eating new/other foods. You may feel like this would work and be helpful, but it almost always ISN'T unless done in a very very careful manner.

So a parent simply making another food available on the table, with zero expectation that the child try it at all, no comment about it, no 'go on have a bite' etc etc - that may work, particularly if others are eating it without comment.

All the other things people do:

'GO on, just one bite then you can have xyz'
'How do you know you don't like it, you haven't tried it?'
'Go on just give it a go, you might like it'.

And of course if you DO try something, or attempt to, theres more pressure.

Even if by miracle of miracles, you try something and its actually ok, theres still more damage done by the 'SEE you DO like it... ' ie. 'weren't you being silly, I know your body/brain better than you do and I am even less likely to listen to you in future'.

If it isn't your kid - back the fuck off.

If it is your kid - be very careful!

When I try new foods, I prefer to do so in private, I need to push/poke it around, touch it with my fingers, perhaps lick it, do a tiny nibble... and I have to feel safe to spit it out if I don't like it. This is not something most people want to watch nor is it something people want to be watched doing.

Fortunately as an adult I have the freedom to do as I please and my partner says absolutely nothing about it at all and as a result I do generally feel better about trying things and in the past have expanded the range of foods I can eat very well... (I really don't know whats caused this latest massive regression but I think over analysing it probably won't help me!), but any sort of pressure would set me right back.

Absolutely a massive reach and pushing your own food issues on other people imo.

Not everyonehas as many food issues as you and to suggest the above is dangerous and ridiculous imo.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 26/04/2025 00:09

OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:55

Yes a tiny percentage may be, most will not and treating them as the tiny percentage will do more harm than good.

Maybe each case needs to be looked at individually?

What about the harm done to the so-called "tiny percentage" if their food issues are belittled?

You just sound like you don't believe anyone. You'd soon change your tune if a child of yours had a problem!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 26/04/2025 00:11

NaiceBalonz · 26/04/2025 00:07

Absolutely a massive reach and pushing your own food issues on other people imo.

Not everyonehas as many food issues as you and to suggest the above is dangerous and ridiculous imo.

That's very rude of you to put down another poster's lived experience!

This poster is absolutely NOT "pushing [her] own food issues"!!!! She's relating her own horrific experience, which she is utterly entitled to do!

You clearly have no understanding of this!

TheOriginalEmu · 26/04/2025 00:14

Riaanna · 25/04/2025 17:38

Very similar situation to you. We have now 3 situations where we have been forced to deny safe foods on the basis that she will eat. At 3 she ended up with malnutrition / failure to thrive and the more we followed advice the more safe foods we lost. She did then got her ASD diagnosis. 2 years later another professional insisted on similar. More weight loss. Age 10. Same again. She’s now 11 and reliant on meal replacements for her nutrition. People don’t seem to realise these kids will happily just not eat.

Urgh, I’m so sorry there are HCP out there still insisting on this method. ARFID was virtually unheard of when my son was small and I was hoping that down the years we would get better at recognising and dealing with it. Apparently not. 😖
ARFID isn’t about being a fussy eater, it’s about anxiety manifesting in a way they can control.

My son loves to cook, always has, which has always baffled me, but it’s true. He went to college to study catering and that was key to improving his eating habits. When he could see how his food was prepared, he felt safer to try new things. His diet is still limited, but he eats lots more things, including more vegetables and protein which were always his biggest problem.
I hope your daughter is doing ok. ❤️

TheOriginalEmu · 26/04/2025 00:16

OppsUpsSide · 25/04/2025 23:18

Some toddlers will have AFRID, the vast majority won’t. Treating every toddler who rejects new foods as a potential candidate for AFRID with no further investigation is unlikely to be helpful. The rule of thumb is that accommodations should benefit everyone, eating only beige food is not a good choice for everyone so it’s not an accommodation that should be taken lightly.

ARFID. Not AFRID. If you can’t even name it correctly perhaps it’s best not to speak in something you don’t anything about.

TheOriginalEmu · 26/04/2025 00:22

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 25/04/2025 22:18

@mainecooncatonahottinroof

But they did eat before beige food was invented ! And why beige food, always? I think kids eat what they’re used to.

Before beige food was invented, the diet of most people in the U.K. was meat and 2 veg and potatos. My dad was a very ‘picky eater’ and knowing what I do now would probably diagnosed with ARFID.
he also was chronically malnourished, almost died 3 times as a child due to his inability to fight off infections. He barely ate anything. Even now as a man in his 70s, he is very thin and essentially eats toast and mashed potatoes with cheese. Beige food.

The reason those are the foods that are often safe for children who struggle with sensory issues around food is because they are bland with a soft texture mostly.

Unitarily · 26/04/2025 00:23

Tbh I don’t think it really matters as much as we like to think.

My sister never ate anything except dry beige food. She grew into an adult who eats the most insane food and travels the world to do so.

I ate everything as a child. But you won’t find me eating oysters, weird clams, super strong strange cheeses, carpaccio, steak tartare or more adventurous types of sushi. So in a way we swapped places; just in relative adult terms rather than child ones.

OppsUpsSide · 26/04/2025 00:49

Typo’s happen.

I’m taking about the millions of people that don’t have it. The vast majority as it happens. A toddler that says ‘no’ to new food should not have a parent in fear.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 26/04/2025 00:55

OppsUpsSide · 26/04/2025 00:49

Typo’s happen.

I’m taking about the millions of people that don’t have it. The vast majority as it happens. A toddler that says ‘no’ to new food should not have a parent in fear.

Eating disorders should not be minimised.

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