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To dare to think that the Cult of Dog has gone too far?

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MariLlwyd · 25/04/2025 11:43

There is now not a single public space in my home town that is dog-free - and that includes cafes, restaurants and even the library. Local beaches, once a quiet escape, have turned into asylums for the fur baby/pupper brigade to inflict their poorly trained animals on others with children getting chased, people jumped on and tripped over and all to the sound of hysterical barking and frequent dog fights.
80 year old woman knocked over by uncontrollable dog? 'You got in his way'.
Ask politely that you take your dog away from our lunch table? 'Go fuck yourself'.
Sit on the most remote bench you can find? Peri-menopausal wild eyed harridan lets loose 3 dogs from her 4x4 to jump all over you and laughs that it's 'their spot' and turns unhinged when you push them away.
Yes, this is a rant and yes I hate most dog owners.
This weird cult that values darling dogs over human beings is actually pretty worrying.
I shall await the inevitable and hilarious 'incoming' from the emotionally stunted Doggo Nutters.

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normanprice62 · 25/04/2025 16:19

It's created a real issue for us. Ds is non verbal and absolutely terrified of dogs. We are doing what we can to help him with therapy but it's not helped by dogs being absolutely everywhere and irresponsible owners who can't control their dogs.

TheHerboriste · 25/04/2025 16:25

MariLlwyd · 25/04/2025 11:43

There is now not a single public space in my home town that is dog-free - and that includes cafes, restaurants and even the library. Local beaches, once a quiet escape, have turned into asylums for the fur baby/pupper brigade to inflict their poorly trained animals on others with children getting chased, people jumped on and tripped over and all to the sound of hysterical barking and frequent dog fights.
80 year old woman knocked over by uncontrollable dog? 'You got in his way'.
Ask politely that you take your dog away from our lunch table? 'Go fuck yourself'.
Sit on the most remote bench you can find? Peri-menopausal wild eyed harridan lets loose 3 dogs from her 4x4 to jump all over you and laughs that it's 'their spot' and turns unhinged when you push them away.
Yes, this is a rant and yes I hate most dog owners.
This weird cult that values darling dogs over human beings is actually pretty worrying.
I shall await the inevitable and hilarious 'incoming' from the emotionally stunted Doggo Nutters.

Many of us feel the same about kids running loose in inappropriate places.

Livpool · 25/04/2025 16:25

IWishIHadntDoneThat · 25/04/2025 13:13

Yes there are badly trained/controlled dogs. No doubt about it.

However there are definately badly behaved children too. Thankfully most parents seem to have told their children to ask the owner if they can pet their dog. This happens to me quite alot as my dog is small and cute. He is not remotely interested in children but will accept a small pet now and then.

He has however been chased by screaming children waving their hands about with a dad not paying attention. He moved away from them and they kept doing it to him. I don't think they were trying to hurt him although I did see them trying to grab his tail as he tried to get away from them. I suggested to the dad he might want to teach his children to not chase strange dogs as lucky mine is pretty placid but some might not be. His answer - if anything happened he'd be right to the police to make sure my dog got the full blame. I mean you can't reason with a person like that can you. Quite frankly a small nip to these children might be the best thing. They wouldn't be badly hurt but they would learn chasing dogs is dangerous.

I can assure you there are badly trained dogs and badly behaved children. Both are very annoying. People with dogs and no children, likely find the children the most annoying and vice versa.

The arrogance of human beings to assume we deserve better than any other living creature on the planet and that we 'own' everything.

You ‘own’ a dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

frecklejuice · 25/04/2025 16:27

Fucking dogs and their entitled owners drive me mental. Tried to have a little picnic with dd over Easter holidays at a local country park and a dog comes bounding over, ran straight through the food (paws all over it) and then started eating some while I was trying to push it away. Shouted at the owner who came wandering over and her response was “I’m sorry but you’re in the middle of a park”. 🤬

MinnieMountain · 25/04/2025 16:29

MariLlwyd · 25/04/2025 15:59

North. 😊

Now I’m jealous, regardless of how silly the dog situation has got.

TheTigerWhoCameToBrunch · 25/04/2025 16:31

frecklejuice · 25/04/2025 16:27

Fucking dogs and their entitled owners drive me mental. Tried to have a little picnic with dd over Easter holidays at a local country park and a dog comes bounding over, ran straight through the food (paws all over it) and then started eating some while I was trying to push it away. Shouted at the owner who came wandering over and her response was “I’m sorry but you’re in the middle of a park”. 🤬

Urgh! These people can seriously fuck off to Fuck Town and I hope while there they get their faces eaten off by their slobbering beasts.

I’m going to start being outspoken when interrupted by mutts henceforth.

Glitchymn1 · 25/04/2025 16:31

RampantIvy · 25/04/2025 14:21

It never happened to you so it nver happens - OK.

Dogs don't jump up on me, but I know it does happen.

It really doesn’t. But it might be because I’ve always had a dog.

Longhotsummers · 25/04/2025 16:32

Agree with you but not the way you describe other people.
I wonder when the Covid dogs die whether the owners will replace them. Hopefully not all will.

LimitedBrightSpots · 25/04/2025 16:32

frecklejuice · 25/04/2025 16:27

Fucking dogs and their entitled owners drive me mental. Tried to have a little picnic with dd over Easter holidays at a local country park and a dog comes bounding over, ran straight through the food (paws all over it) and then started eating some while I was trying to push it away. Shouted at the owner who came wandering over and her response was “I’m sorry but you’re in the middle of a park”. 🤬

I take great delight in telling people like that that I can't remember if I made our cupcakes with xylitol or not.

Picklelily99 · 25/04/2025 16:33

MariLlwyd · 25/04/2025 11:43

There is now not a single public space in my home town that is dog-free - and that includes cafes, restaurants and even the library. Local beaches, once a quiet escape, have turned into asylums for the fur baby/pupper brigade to inflict their poorly trained animals on others with children getting chased, people jumped on and tripped over and all to the sound of hysterical barking and frequent dog fights.
80 year old woman knocked over by uncontrollable dog? 'You got in his way'.
Ask politely that you take your dog away from our lunch table? 'Go fuck yourself'.
Sit on the most remote bench you can find? Peri-menopausal wild eyed harridan lets loose 3 dogs from her 4x4 to jump all over you and laughs that it's 'their spot' and turns unhinged when you push them away.
Yes, this is a rant and yes I hate most dog owners.
This weird cult that values darling dogs over human beings is actually pretty worrying.
I shall await the inevitable and hilarious 'incoming' from the emotionally stunted Doggo Nutters.

Totally with you on this one!

MaggieKL · 25/04/2025 16:37

I agree, I am quite afraid of dogs due to some experiences when I was younger and the number of people who let their dogs jump on you "He's only being friendly"; then there is the whole issue of the dog poo - went for a walk yesterday quite out in the countryside and there were plastic bags of it on the trees; our village has dog poo bins which I know cost about £1000 to install (out of my rates too) - I think dog owners should pay -I don't know why dogs can't be trained like cats, our cat both poos and wees in her tray. I do know that dogs can be trained from a talk by Guide Dogs for the Blind who train them to go in a particular spot in someone's back garden. Finally, wet dogs in eating establishments. I was somewhere a few weeks ago and there was a wet dog under the table next to us, whilst we ate a nice lunch. Just can't get away from them. I do find some dogs quite attractive to look at - labradoodles/labradoors; and friendly - however the XL bullies and the like I cannot understand.

Rant over....!

Musclewoman · 25/04/2025 16:39

postmanshere · 25/04/2025 12:24

I’m afraid I’m one of those people who takes their handbag chihuahua everywhere. He’s great and makes me and lots of other people very happy and I much prefer his company to anyone else’s. He’s quiet and often people don’t even notice him. And he brings so much joy to people. I actually have the opposite problem, that people, especially small kids, are always running up and wanting to touch and pester him in cafes and public spaces if he’s visible to them. Luckily he’s an absolute wonder with people and tolerates all the patting and ear pulling like a champ. I once had a woman literally shove her face up to his and try to snog him (complete stranger) and I had to tell her to back off because I could see his warning signs that he was not comfortable (and would you be if a stranger did that to you?!).

I’m sure I’ll have plenty of people disagree and think I’m the enemy here but I could be sitting next to you in a cafe right now with my snoozing pocket chihuahua and you probably haven’t even noticed him!

Aww sounds adorable, very annoying that she tried to get in to his face....some people have no sense or boundaries! Then they look offended that the dog doesn't like it!

sally037 · 25/04/2025 16:41

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hellswelshy · 25/04/2025 16:46

An ironic further update to this, (I commented earlier in the thread), out earlier with dh and dds in a very quiet walking area, dds were walking ahead of dh and I. Suddenly out of nowhere, a dog appeared, barking at dds, and following them. As dh and I got closer, I could see the dog running back and forth it's owner and dds, and I called to her 'Please can you recall your dog?'. She replied 'oh yes sorry I was on the phone' then proceeded to tell us the dog was trying to protect her, and that it thinks we are strangers! I replied 'well we ARE strangers' - why that mattered I don't know as it was a public place not her personal property. She then tried not very successfully to grab the dog, all the while it was barking and snarling at me and dh. I was not happy, said nothing, but my face said it all!!
We passed two ladies with two very well behaved dogs further along, who enjoyed the story immensely 😆

PerimenopausalWildEyedHarridan · 25/04/2025 16:46

IWishIHadntDoneThat · 25/04/2025 13:35

Yes but you are assuming that 'humans' are in charge and own the world.

Who said. I mean yes by force we overrule animals because we have a higher IQ. We are not 'better' than them.

All I'm saying is look at the mess the world is in with us 'superior' humans. Wars, mass consumerism, vunerable children being neglected, natural resources being stripped, everyone looking out for themselves.

I mean dinosaurs used to rule the earth because they were bigger than all the other animals. Did that make them 'better'

Dictators rule their people and dictate to them what they should and shouldn't do - does that make them better than their 'subjects' or just more evil.

The longer I live (and I'm pretty old now) the less regard I have for a huge percentage of humans and appreciate much more the simple and kind, straight forward nature of animals.

And yet owning dogs and personifying them is contributing to the destruction of nature.

Studies estimate that pet food production contributes significantly to greenhouse gas emissions. It's estimated that U.S. dogs and cats are responsible for up to 25-30% of the environmental impact from meat consumption in the U.S.

SloppyThePoodle · 25/04/2025 16:47

I love dogs, but my husband is very allergic to them. It's difficult for us to go on holiday because most places to stay are dog friendly. We stayed in one recently that was advertised as no pets allowed, and he couldn't breathe all weekend. He also can't be in places with dogs for long as he starts to wheeze. I didn't realise how many places allowed dogs in until I met him (though it has coincided with everyone getting one during covid).

Also sick of badly behaved dogs. As much as I adore them, I don't want a labrador leaping up me while the owner apologises - train your dog!!!

turkeyboots · 25/04/2025 16:48

It's the smell which gets me. I was in a high st clothes shop recently which stank of wet dog. There is no way I was going to spend money there.

Ally886 · 25/04/2025 16:49

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Well this took a turn

That's nice Sally. I can't have children and may be why I hate them but I draw the line at purposely trying to kill them if they run towards me.

Ps. Making criminal confessions on mumsnet isn't ideal

Badgersarethebiggestcarnivores · 25/04/2025 16:49

GarageBlues · 25/04/2025 13:08

Agree too, we have dogs but don’t inflict them on others.

Recent completely rare lunch out with husband, people were seated next to us with their great dog.
They made a fuss of it, but I ignored it, I wanted a peaceful child free meal .

Another treat breakfast out with teens and husband, Grandparents seated at a neighbouring table, started competitively singing blooming nursery rhymes at their toddler grandson.

This just about sums up modern life. Even if one of these people had vacated their table, the person who sat there afterwards would be watching TikTok on speaker, or talking to their friend on FaceTime or holding a Zoom meeting or something.

There is no peace any more.

phlebasconsidered · 25/04/2025 16:52

In 1972, down our street, there were loads of dogs. Kicked out of the house in the mornings, wandered the streets all day till their owners came back. Quite normal to see dogs alone on the footpaths, parks, fields. Strays or owned. Some vicious, some not. I remember desperately trying to convince my mum that a dog i'd enticed home was stray. Only for someone to ring and tell mum to kick him out to find his way home, it was his teatime.

Dogs are better off now, and more on leads than they used to be. And believe it or not, there's a great deal less dog poo around as well!

vodkaredbullgirl · 25/04/2025 16:55

Ally886 · 25/04/2025 16:49

Well this took a turn

That's nice Sally. I can't have children and may be why I hate them but I draw the line at purposely trying to kill them if they run towards me.

Ps. Making criminal confessions on mumsnet isn't ideal

Thank god it got deleted, disgusting.

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 25/04/2025 16:55

MattCauthon · 25/04/2025 13:45

Actually, I think teaching children how to recognise dog behaviour is hugely important. Yes, dog owners should always be in control etc, but teaching children how to behave around animals is also important.

I used to tie my dog to a tree well off the path that led to school. I did that as I had to take DS into school and dog couldn't come with me, and I didn't want her close to the path as I knew she could get frightened when I wasn't with her.

Never ceased to amaze me how many parents didn't seem to think it as a problem that their children were approaching a dog that was alone, tied up, and very obviously placed in a spot OFF the main path....

I agree with @MattCauthon. Although the choice to bring a dog to a public space and the need to control it falls on the dog owner, many kids are not brought up to behave appropriately around animals. I wouldn't tie my dog up outside a shop for fear of coming out to find kids taunting it as one toddler did to my golden retriever many years ago. I came out to find him cowering back on the lead with the toddler with her fingers actually up his nose. Parent oblivious. I grew up in a farming area and we were told from an early age to respect dogs and by and large leave them alone so it surprised the hell out of me.

Sorrysunflower · 25/04/2025 16:56

If irresponsible owners have young kids with them and I am particularly irate I will tell them loudly to fuck off, and I’m calling the police to have their pet put down. I like to think that will get my perspective into the bone-headed idiots who call themselves dog owners yet let their dog bound over to strangers.

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 25/04/2025 16:58

Sorrysunflower · 25/04/2025 16:56

If irresponsible owners have young kids with them and I am particularly irate I will tell them loudly to fuck off, and I’m calling the police to have their pet put down. I like to think that will get my perspective into the bone-headed idiots who call themselves dog owners yet let their dog bound over to strangers.

charming. thanks for taking an adult approach and traumatising a child in a fit of pique. 🙄

Summerseagull · 25/04/2025 16:59

I've got two dogs and I totally agree with you
They don't need or want to be in cafes or restaurants or anything else
Most are happy with a walk ,and snoozing the day away at home .
I don't even think the dogs enjoy being dragged everywhere