To just want nice toilets

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Honestly - toilets should all be unisex and completely self contained (floor to ceiling) , lockable with a wash basin in there, a hook for bags and room for a toddler and lots of loo paper.
With glass doors for the entry into the toilet area.
Then all this worry about who else is using them would stop.

Love the pun!

YABU
mixed sex loos are always grim.

Also cameras can be placed in them. There was a school in Scotland where this happened recently

People who are anti unisex toilets can never seem to answer that question. I mean, we literally put some of the most vulnerable people in society in disabled toilets, it doesn't seem to be doing them any harm, so why's it an issue?

I think that's the problem, so many aren't well kept.

Why people (if all kinds) are so bloody filthy sometimes is beyond me.

Unisex toilets are grim. This is what makes me annoyed about the ruling. I am absolutely not bought into to any bollocks about it being possible to change your sex. However, I would far rather share a ladies toilet with a transwoman than a unisex toilet with a queue of men. And it seems completely unfair and unsafe to expect a transwoman to share a men's toilet with men too - they are such a target.

The people chasing this outcome have shot themselves and everyone else in the foot. The result will be unisex toilets which are less safe for everyone. I give it a few years before there is not a single sex ward left on the NHS, outside maternity/gyno/etc.

Some of the womens loos ive been in are just if not worse than the mens.
Tbh i dont care if i have to pee when out then i use the public loos without any thought.
Its just a toilet i have more going on in my life than to argue and moan about a public toilet.

I simply don't understand this idea that women's toilets are so dirty. You and I must frequent very different places!

Anyway, my daughters are adopted. They had a really awful time of it in their birth family and they continue to suffer from the ongoing effects of their early trauma 24 years later.

And they don't want males in the ladies toilets and frankly you can't consent to men coming in on the basis you don't mind without considering other women.

And you shouldn't have to have extreme trauma to set boundaries, but I'm just mentioning my daughters so you don't think it's just a bunch of old-fasioned kill joys who could just lighten up a bit.

The poster says she wants a private space OR one where only women go. If she has a husband or son then she'd need a separate loo at home to achieve that

Lol I'm still known to do this in my 50s

The poster said men. NOT unrelated men. So if she has.nen living in the same house with one toilet then she'd still have to share.

I have one toilet. My grown DS uses it

Oh my fucking God I am sick of every other thread on here being about fuckinh toilets.

Go and express your toilet based opinion on one of the other 2000 threads on here about it

Of course you know she means in public places.

Why are you pretending you don’t know that’s what she means?

When I suggested it, I envisaged the urinals to be behind a door like each lavatory is.

Of course, such an arrangement wouldn’t satisfy the unisex loo hyperbole.

I don't want to queue for twice as long potentially missing my train/the start of the second act/really desperate to go, because instead of waiting for a woman to wee, I have to wait for her to also wash her hands, do her hair, check her lipstick, etc. Fine in quiet low traffic areas, not fine elsewhere. One toilet like this should meet the needs of the very small percentage of the population who doesn't want to use the toilet designated for their sex, and the rest of us can get on with using the women's and men's as appropriate, and the extra money your idea would cost could go towards making those toilets (that 99% of the population use) nicer.

The disabled toilets have safety cord and some of their users have their own safety buttons. Some of the people using accessible toilets have even their own carer with them.

The type of diagnoses people are dying in toilets from is about generally ok person feeling suddenly bad, feeling weak, going to the toilet and passing there out.

Every design is about balancing different risks - and single sex toilets with spaces around the doors are the safest option for general population

Sometimes, I grunt and fart on the loo. I try very hard to not be noticed, due to getting bullied when I needed a poo whilst I was a pupil at an all girls school. Sometimes I get severe constipation thanks to a birth issue with my bowels. The constipation can cause some absolutely epic loud wind. People like me find that attitudes like yours, which make toilet noises sound taboo in toilets, gives us anxiety and makes us nervous to use public toilets. Which makes the issue worse. Sure, we don't want to listen to loud man-grunting, loud man-noises, I hate the sound of my male partner peeing. It's very loud unless he sits down. But we are there to pee/ poo/ excrete a number of bodily fluids. So please, please don't make people feel more awkward than many already are?

You mean in the men’s toilets separate to the single sex women’s?

Ok then. Otherwise no everybody won’t be happy.

Op I’ll take single sex row of cubicles, with hooks on wall or door and door gaps.

I'm sorry you struggle with toilet visits, I would never look down on anyone who had issues like this. Conditions like IBS are actually more common in women, and we can also suffer with things like colitis that make loo visits painful.

Shaming people who have issues on the loo, or support the stereotype that it's unfeminine to, are the pits.

I agree with you about the possible consequences but why is it women and girls have to compromise and accept crumbs just because of the greater bucket of shit being thrown at them? We should be holding up women’s absolute requirements and telling men to grow up and sort themselves the fuck out.

What would be the point of urinals behind doors? The whole purpose of a urinal is to not have to queue up for a cubicle. If they were behind cubicle doors a toilet would do the same job surely?

In any event, an environment where men are getting their dicks out in the same place as children doesn't sit well with me, cubicle or not.

Perhaps stretch your imagination to several urinals behind one door.

Do you mean as it is now? A male toilet and women’s single sex which are separate?

Are you trying to combine them in some way

I'd like nice, clean, female only ones thanks

Ideally completely separate. Although, if we have to have omnisex loos then a separate big cubicle with urinals in could potentially mitigate some of the issues raised.

It isn't the men or trans women who leave bloody sanitary products and wrappers on the cubicle floor.