Brother texts greetings in Welsh

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My brother lives in Wales but he is English. He doesn't want to be Welsh, but every time he texts me at Christmas, New Year, birthday, etc he will do it in Welsh. So this weekend it was
Me: Happy Easter DB
DB: Pasg Hapus to you too

Don't get me wrong I like Wales, it's a lovely country, I like the Welsh and if a Welsh person wished me Happy Easter in Welsh that'd be fine but my brother is English and so am I. Every bloody time he does it.
A greeting in Welsh means nothing to me and yes I can work it out, but it doesn't half irk me and I know it's annoying me far more than it should.
AIBU to just want greetings in the language we both speak?

Also people comparing Welsh to a 'foreign language' on here... wee woo! Amazing.

This 'problem' sounds like the Daily Fail going on about 'Cancelled Christmas'.
Have a bit of curiosity and respect for other cultures.

@MsTamborineMan
i doubt many people living in England know a word of Welsh

I know Heddlu but only because I needed the Heddlu when I couldn’t find a garage to fix my cars front bumper when I was in Aberystwyth and I only know it because it was written all over their car.

Why would people in England be required or expected to know Welsh?

My brother is also English. He lives in Wales. He send some greetings in Welsh. He speaks Welsh. His wife is a Welsh first language speaker, as is his bi-lingual son. I often send greetings in Welsh to my best friends husband - he's Welsh and can't speak it. OP - do you have a point?

OP has made her point. It’s the whole point of the thread

There are early English chronicles listing repeated slaughter of the Welsh.

People in the UK need to recognise the four nations. Not England and three colonies.

Learn some Welsh.

No, thanks.

But it doesn't make any sense. You can't say - I like Wales, it's a lovely country, Welsh people are nice, they can have their language. Blah, blah, blah... But then infer that only Welsh people should speak Welsh?

She can support her brother's life or not and if she feels so strongly about him embracing another language then she needs to look at that. She is not supporting him and using language as a way to make an example of that. I think it's sad and unfair.

Maybe she might like to consider supporting him in helping restore a language that came near to being wiped out by disgusting attitudes towards the Welsh from the other side of the bridge? Wild idea huh?

And the bloody irony of English people finding Welsh somehow offensive. Ffycin idiots. Guess most people can understand that without the need for translation...

I'm English living in Wales - have tried a few times to learn welsh - kids have a bit via school - have welsh languge GCSE or sitting currently. I've picked up welsh greeting and such as they are common even in english speaking population.

We do this with cards and presents not so much texts or whatsapp - though tend to do welsh/English cards and occaionally welsh themed presents - like welsh whisky or goods.

I'n unaware of causing any offence to English family members. It's trying to reflect back a bit of the culture of the area we're in or specialness of area - did similar in parts of England like yorkshire when we lived there.

Texts do feel a bit odder - but the huge offence taken is also odd.

Agree it should not be considered a foreign language by the British.
Its been 5 decades since this term was first challenged in Parliament and that needs to change.

It is still listed as a foreign language on the Goverment website alongside French etc.

By the 'British' - so Welsh people aren't British then..?

Government website - you mean UKG? There's a Welsh Government website too.

See all the comments I have made are at the root of this issue.

It's a bit pretentious isn't it?

It's the sort of thing my irritating BIL would do. I'd just ignore.

Unfortunately as the term Welsh means 'foreign' there's no getting around it, whatever they put on the UK Gov website.

I thought there actually might be an intelligent point. As opposed to being "irked" by something completely reasonable and a non-event.

Welsh people are British obviously. It’s the Welsh language which the UK Government website still classes as foreign.

This has been challenged by various Welsh MPs for over 5 decades but for some reason ?? it’s still written as a foreign language on the website.

I think it’s lovely that he’s leaning into the culture and language. I think it says a lot about him as a person that he’s so open to it.

It means Romanised people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Walhaz

My sister lives in France and occasionally does the same. Never given it a thought.

OP feels differently about it to you, that’s allowed. We all have different opinions about many things.
That’s why she started the thread.

Mumsnet is full of what some may deem as non events, we still post on them though 🥴

You're really missing the point here. By miles
If I lived in China I would wish my family back home a Chinese language happy birthday. Its nice, friendly, different from the norm. They would understand it - because it's clearly a birthday text. Some people are really hard of thinking.

Also Welsh is one of the original languages of Britain, English is the foreign language if we are going down that route 😆

Fun fact: The Welsh for England is “Lloegr” = The Lost Lands. The lands that were lost to the invaders.

How would non-Mandarin speakers understand Happy Birthday in Mandarin?

Quite - can you tell @TheWonderhorse!

Which means foreigner as your tag from wiki notes and as @TheWonderhorse stated too.

Well you learn something every day

of course I don’t think they should be regarded as such