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Brother texts greetings in Welsh

236 replies

MoHub · 22/04/2025 02:20

My brother lives in Wales but he is English. He doesn't want to be Welsh, but every time he texts me at Christmas, New Year, birthday, etc he will do it in Welsh. So this weekend it was
Me: Happy Easter DB
DB: Pasg Hapus to you too

Don't get me wrong I like Wales, it's a lovely country, I like the Welsh and if a Welsh person wished me Happy Easter in Welsh that'd be fine but my brother is English and so am I. Every bloody time he does it.
A greeting in Welsh means nothing to me and yes I can work it out, but it doesn't half irk me and I know it's annoying me far more than it should.
AIBU to just want greetings in the language we both speak?

OP posts:
CiaoMeow · 22/04/2025 11:30

I love other languages and I do this very same thing myself sometimes in cards to a particular uncle. Probably not quite the same as this uncle actually IS Welsh.

But I've also written a word or a phrase in another language if someone is going on holiday to that particular country. I wouldn't give it a second thought not to. It's just a bit of fun.

Have you never wished someone Bon Voyage, used the term cul-de-sac or talked about deja vu?

frontwoman001 · 22/04/2025 11:50

DrPrunesqualer · 22/04/2025 03:00

It is very odd as he knows you don’t speak Welsh

Why not reply in other languages. Perhaps you could help him learn how to say happy Easter In loads of languages

Frohe Ostern - German
Pasaka njema - Swahili
Caisc Shona duit - Irish
Felices Pascuas - Spanish

Id love to do Chinese and Russian etc but I don’t know how to change my script

apologies to all German, Spanish, Swahili and Irish speakers if I spelt anything wrong 😁

부활절 축복 받으세요
(Korean!)

nomas · 22/04/2025 11:59

Clafoutie · 22/04/2025 07:49

But how on earth is it rude?

Because she’s not Welsh, she does not speak Welsh and she doesn’t live in Wales.

It’s as random as someone wishing you happy Birthday in Mandarin.

IneedAniffler · 22/04/2025 12:07

nomas · 22/04/2025 11:59

Because she’s not Welsh, she does not speak Welsh and she doesn’t live in Wales.

It’s as random as someone wishing you happy Birthday in Mandarin.

Oh come on, no it's not. He lives there. If he lived in China he might say it in mandarin. It's not random at all and you know it.

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:30

IneedAniffler · 22/04/2025 12:07

Oh come on, no it's not. He lives there. If he lived in China he might say it in mandarin. It's not random at all and you know it.

Why would he say it in Mandarin if he lived in China?

OP won’t automatically understand just because HE’S in China!

It’s making people translate what you’re telling them unnecessarily, so it is rude.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 22/04/2025 12:32

It sounds like a brother just being a brother to me. If you tell him it irks you, he might do it more.

Createausername1970 · 22/04/2025 12:36

It is a bit annoying if he does it every time, but if he is in all other respects a decent brother, then I wouldn't get overly bothered by it.

Kellybonita · 22/04/2025 12:39

nomas · 22/04/2025 11:59

Because she’s not Welsh, she does not speak Welsh and she doesn’t live in Wales.

It’s as random as someone wishing you happy Birthday in Mandarin.

It's definitely not as random as someone wishing you happy birthday in mandarin.

He lives in Wales! Welsh is everywhere in Wales. On shop signs, place signs.

When I lived in Spain, I spoke spanish.

He lives there!

ButtermilkYellow · 22/04/2025 12:39

It’s really not that deep - it’s nice he’s trying to learn the language but if you’re that bothered just ask him to say it in English.

Gwenhwyfar · 22/04/2025 12:39

I put Happy Easter in Welsh on my Facebook. Anyone who can't work out what it means or is offended by it shouldn't be my friend anyway.

thehorsesareallidiots · 22/04/2025 12:41

I'd be taking the opportunity to fuck with my sibling by sending greetings in a different language every time. It'd be fun.

IneedAniffler · 22/04/2025 12:42

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:30

Why would he say it in Mandarin if he lived in China?

OP won’t automatically understand just because HE’S in China!

It’s making people translate what you’re telling them unnecessarily, so it is rude.

Oh behave 🤣 need to translate?!

He'd say it in mandarin if he lived in China because they speak fucking Mandarin in China and it would be nice to reflect that 🤣

Some people need help, honestly

Gwenhwyfar · 22/04/2025 12:44

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:30

Why would he say it in Mandarin if he lived in China?

OP won’t automatically understand just because HE’S in China!

It’s making people translate what you’re telling them unnecessarily, so it is rude.

If she has to use a translation website to figure out what her brother's reply to Happy Easter might be, she has big problems. Especially when one of the words is very similar to the English word happy...

LazyArsedMagician · 22/04/2025 12:47

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 22/04/2025 12:32

It sounds like a brother just being a brother to me. If you tell him it irks you, he might do it more.

Same. I'm constantly baffled by these people that have these strictly regimented relationships with their siblings.

If my brother did this I'd send him a meme about being found in a bin not Wales or something Grin

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:48

Kellybonita · 22/04/2025 12:39

It's definitely not as random as someone wishing you happy birthday in mandarin.

He lives in Wales! Welsh is everywhere in Wales. On shop signs, place signs.

When I lived in Spain, I spoke spanish.

He lives there!

Yes, when YOU lived in Spain, YOU spoke in Spanish.

Your relatives in your home country didn’t suddenly start speaking Spanish because you do.

So what if the signs are in Welsh in Wales? OP doesn’t see them!

Gwenhwyfar · 22/04/2025 12:48

TasWair · 22/04/2025 07:36

I think you were trying to say "get over yourself", which doesn't exist as a idiom in Welsh. What google gave you was more "cum over yourself"!!
You gave me a good giggle anyway!

The dirty meaning didn't even occur to me.

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:50

IneedAniffler · 22/04/2025 12:42

Oh behave 🤣 need to translate?!

He'd say it in mandarin if he lived in China because they speak fucking Mandarin in China and it would be nice to reflect that 🤣

Some people need help, honestly

No, it’s nice to say to the someone LIVING in China. So if OP lived in Wales, it would be nice if he texted it to her.

Pandimoanymum · 22/04/2025 12:50

golemmings · 22/04/2025 06:41

Incidental Welsh is really common In Wales. even non native speakers or people who learned Welsh at school but wouldn't dream of speaking Welsh normally will often exchange those greetings in welsh- in the middle of a conversation in English.

When DH has been working with a Welsh colleague, I get offered a paned when I get home - in England. Neither dh or I is Welsh speaking

Yes, actually this is a thing here in Wales, now I've thought about how often I do it! I regularly say good morning/night, love you, thank you in Welsh when the rest of the convo is in English. And of course we don't cuddle, we "cwtch". Everyone cwtches in Wales, Welsh speaking or not 😊
So I've now decided OPs brother is maybe just trying to embrace the language, which is quite sweet. But I still think it would get on my nerves a bit eventually if it's every single bloody time.

Kellybonita · 22/04/2025 12:50

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:48

Yes, when YOU lived in Spain, YOU spoke in Spanish.

Your relatives in your home country didn’t suddenly start speaking Spanish because you do.

So what if the signs are in Welsh in Wales? OP doesn’t see them!

Edited

When I lived in Spain I said happy christmas in Spanish to my relatives in England.

Feliz navidad!

They liked it!

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:51

Gwenhwyfar · 22/04/2025 12:44

If she has to use a translation website to figure out what her brother's reply to Happy Easter might be, she has big problems. Especially when one of the words is very similar to the English word happy...

But it’s not just at Easter, so there will be times that OP has no bloody clue what he’s on about.

MsTamborineMan · 22/04/2025 12:53

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:30

Why would he say it in Mandarin if he lived in China?

OP won’t automatically understand just because HE’S in China!

It’s making people translate what you’re telling them unnecessarily, so it is rude.

Welsh is a native language of britain, a country the OP lives in. I think it's pretty rude to not understand very basic phrases of a language used within your own country

Arlanymor · 22/04/2025 12:54

Why don't you think it's nice that he is trying to use the language of the place he has chosen to live in? It doesn't take anything away from you.

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:56

MsTamborineMan · 22/04/2025 12:53

Welsh is a native language of britain, a country the OP lives in. I think it's pretty rude to not understand very basic phrases of a language used within your own country

Oh give over! Only if you’re living in that country.

There’s no need to learn it otherwise, only if you want to.

I speak as someone who speaks 5 languages!

OhWhistle · 22/04/2025 12:57

MoHub · 22/04/2025 04:33

If it was every time, yes. And the foreign greeting is the whole message.

It's not foreign. These are the people here longest.

MsTamborineMan · 22/04/2025 13:00

nomas · 22/04/2025 12:56

Oh give over! Only if you’re living in that country.

There’s no need to learn it otherwise, only if you want to.

I speak as someone who speaks 5 languages!

I mean not quite the same as mandarin is it though?

And yes I do think its rude to not make an effort to understand basic phrases of a language used within your own country, especially in a place you3 brother lives. I'm not expecting anyone to be fluent but understanding "hello" "happy birthday" "happy christmas", is fairly easy especially as, unlike other languages, Welsh is almost always accompanied by an English translation.