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Brother texts greetings in Welsh

236 replies

MoHub · 22/04/2025 02:20

My brother lives in Wales but he is English. He doesn't want to be Welsh, but every time he texts me at Christmas, New Year, birthday, etc he will do it in Welsh. So this weekend it was
Me: Happy Easter DB
DB: Pasg Hapus to you too

Don't get me wrong I like Wales, it's a lovely country, I like the Welsh and if a Welsh person wished me Happy Easter in Welsh that'd be fine but my brother is English and so am I. Every bloody time he does it.
A greeting in Welsh means nothing to me and yes I can work it out, but it doesn't half irk me and I know it's annoying me far more than it should.
AIBU to just want greetings in the language we both speak?

OP posts:
Clafoutie · 22/04/2025 07:49

nomas · 22/04/2025 06:44

YANBU, a pp is right, text him a reply in an obscure language. You are not Welsh so he’s being very rude.

But how on earth is it rude?

Clafoutie · 22/04/2025 07:55

This thread is a bit depressing. Have we really become so insular that we consider somebody ( presumably) just enjoying the culture they have moved to via a few words of a text something to be offended by?

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 08:03

Is this genuinely the biggest problem you have?!

TheWonderhorse · 22/04/2025 08:05

Welsh woman here, can you please thank your brother for being a good human? So many move to Wales and make no effort.

But also, what's the issue? The use of Welsh does wind people up sometimes in a way that leaves me baffled and much more keen to learn more Cymraeg.

DUsername · 22/04/2025 08:06

Clafoutie · 22/04/2025 07:55

This thread is a bit depressing. Have we really become so insular that we consider somebody ( presumably) just enjoying the culture they have moved to via a few words of a text something to be offended by?

Indeed. I think it is an English thing to be absolutely, steadfastly, stubbornly a monoglot too. To the point of being mildly offended by people using other languages around you. Especially if it's Welsh.

JohnAmendAll · 22/04/2025 08:19

Be thankful he sends you greetings.

IneedAniffler · 22/04/2025 08:23

MoHub · 22/04/2025 02:20

My brother lives in Wales but he is English. He doesn't want to be Welsh, but every time he texts me at Christmas, New Year, birthday, etc he will do it in Welsh. So this weekend it was
Me: Happy Easter DB
DB: Pasg Hapus to you too

Don't get me wrong I like Wales, it's a lovely country, I like the Welsh and if a Welsh person wished me Happy Easter in Welsh that'd be fine but my brother is English and so am I. Every bloody time he does it.
A greeting in Welsh means nothing to me and yes I can work it out, but it doesn't half irk me and I know it's annoying me far more than it should.
AIBU to just want greetings in the language we both speak?

At best you're being a killjoy - it's fun to use different languages especially if you live there, it's not like he's sending you a whole message to decipher. Happy Birthday/Easter/Xmas shouldn't be confusing to you in a language spoken in a country you're joined to.

At worst you come across a bit bigoted by saying he's English so should speak English. Are you saying its an affront for my to wish my husband happy birthday in Spanish because neither of us are Spanish or live in Spain, we just enjoy the language and everything else about the place? I'd say it's far from "rude" as PP have suggested.

Or, instead of moaning about it on here why don't you just message him and say "DB I don't know why but it really annoys me when you say things in Welsh, I want you to wish me Happy Birthday in English because we are English"

Make him feel silly, kill the buzz, but get your wish!

Let us know what he says

Or...
Ymdawelu...

Frowningprovidence · 22/04/2025 08:26

I think it's sweet.

When my dh lived abroad he send home stuff to the kids with little phrases in the local language if it was a birthday or religious festival and make a point of getting local traditional gifts.

EmmaEmEmz · 22/04/2025 08:30

I'm not Welsh but live in Wales. I use e very possible opportunity to use the very limited Welsh I do know, so use nadolig llawen etc even to my relatives in England.

Oftenaddled · 22/04/2025 08:31

He knows you know he's not Welsh or Welsh speaking, so he's not showing off.

Surely he's just making it a bit more personal than sending the same greeting as everyone else?

There is a phenomenon where we all get a little tense about family members changing in small ways - not things that matter objectively but things upset our expected order of things. That might be why this seems important to you but trivial to everyone else.

Why not go with it - brother is embracing being in Wales and likes to take about it. So ask him how things are going in Cymru or whether he's enjoying the rygbi once in a while. Don't try to control him

EmmaEmEmz · 22/04/2025 08:33

Posted too soon...I think it's really ignorant not to use the language of the country you're in. My kids can now speak almost fluent Welsh and I have done what I csm to learn the language since I've moved here,hence using it at every possible opportunity. It's modelling good habits to the children as well.

Agapornis · 22/04/2025 08:56

MoHub · 22/04/2025 04:33

If it was every time, yes. And the foreign greeting is the whole message.

Arguably Welsh is not foreign - it is one of our native languages, long before English.

You sound jealous of his ability to use another language. I'm guessing you don't speak anything beyond English?

Agapornis · 22/04/2025 09:00

Oh and zalig pasen!

MoHub · 22/04/2025 09:11

IneedAniffler · 22/04/2025 08:23

At best you're being a killjoy - it's fun to use different languages especially if you live there, it's not like he's sending you a whole message to decipher. Happy Birthday/Easter/Xmas shouldn't be confusing to you in a language spoken in a country you're joined to.

At worst you come across a bit bigoted by saying he's English so should speak English. Are you saying its an affront for my to wish my husband happy birthday in Spanish because neither of us are Spanish or live in Spain, we just enjoy the language and everything else about the place? I'd say it's far from "rude" as PP have suggested.

Or, instead of moaning about it on here why don't you just message him and say "DB I don't know why but it really annoys me when you say things in Welsh, I want you to wish me Happy Birthday in English because we are English"

Make him feel silly, kill the buzz, but get your wish!

Let us know what he says

Or...
Ymdawelu...

I "moaned about it on here" because strangely I wanted to know AIBU which i clearly am. I didn't want to tell him I'd like an English greeting every now and then if that was unreasonable.
I have nothing against the welsh or their language. I wouldn't even mind it from him occasionally, just not every single time he texts me.

OP posts:
MoHub · 22/04/2025 09:15

Oftenaddled · 22/04/2025 08:31

He knows you know he's not Welsh or Welsh speaking, so he's not showing off.

Surely he's just making it a bit more personal than sending the same greeting as everyone else?

There is a phenomenon where we all get a little tense about family members changing in small ways - not things that matter objectively but things upset our expected order of things. That might be why this seems important to you but trivial to everyone else.

Why not go with it - brother is embracing being in Wales and likes to take about it. So ask him how things are going in Cymru or whether he's enjoying the rygbi once in a while. Don't try to control him

Probably the best answer. Good way to look at it.
Thanks

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BertieBotts · 22/04/2025 09:19

Breaks up the tedium a bit doesn't it?

I think if you get a random text at Easter which says nothing more than a phrase you can't understand, it's quite clear that it means Happy Easter, especially if it comes from someone who has form for doing that 🤷‍♀️

BobbyBiscuits · 22/04/2025 09:23

I love Welsh, I wish I could speak it.

I've worked for the Welsh Government before and you have to say 'Bora da/ good morning...' but I didn't know any other Welsh. We'd have to ask if they wish for the call to be in Welsh and if they said yes I'd have to get the only Welsh speaker in our office to do those calls.

I don't see what's wrong with a greeting in the language of the country you live. It's cool he wants to learn/speak it. I would want to learn it if I lived there too. And maybe I would show off or practice a bit on some non Welsh speakers.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 22/04/2025 09:30

I genuinely can’t understand why this would annoy anyone. And neither the OP, nor the people who think she’s NBU seem able to explain. Which is interesting.

ItGhoul · 22/04/2025 09:41

I really don’t understand why this would bother anyone.

ThisIsItNowOrNever · 22/04/2025 09:42

It sounds like an utterly traumatising experience.

SallyWD · 22/04/2025 09:47

I think it's fine. I think he's embracing the fact he's in Wales. I can relate to this. I'm a southerner living in Yorkshire and I love using Yorkshire-isms to my southern friends. I do it out of affection for Yorkshire.

KimberleyClark · 22/04/2025 09:51

Agapornis · 22/04/2025 08:56

Arguably Welsh is not foreign - it is one of our native languages, long before English.

You sound jealous of his ability to use another language. I'm guessing you don't speak anything beyond English?

No arguably about it. It’s an indigenous British language. English is arguably more “foreign”.

AutumnLeaves24 · 22/04/2025 09:54

ExpatMum41 · 22/04/2025 07:17

A very "vesele velku noc" to you all 💐😉

ďakujem dúfam že ste mali krásnu Veľkú noc

LazyArsedMagician · 22/04/2025 10:58

He's your brother. Just roll your eyes and call him a dickhead or something.

Kellybonita · 22/04/2025 11:00

You're lucky to get a text back. If I texted my brother he wouldn't reply.

If I called him and he missed the call, he would return a call.

But he definitely wouldn't reply to a text.

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