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Brother texts greetings in Welsh

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MoHub · 22/04/2025 02:20

My brother lives in Wales but he is English. He doesn't want to be Welsh, but every time he texts me at Christmas, New Year, birthday, etc he will do it in Welsh. So this weekend it was
Me: Happy Easter DB
DB: Pasg Hapus to you too

Don't get me wrong I like Wales, it's a lovely country, I like the Welsh and if a Welsh person wished me Happy Easter in Welsh that'd be fine but my brother is English and so am I. Every bloody time he does it.
A greeting in Welsh means nothing to me and yes I can work it out, but it doesn't half irk me and I know it's annoying me far more than it should.
AIBU to just want greetings in the language we both speak?

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TheOriginalEmu · 28/04/2025 00:27

I fully agree @Arlanymor I very much doubt this post would exist if it was about French or Chinese or whatever. But Welsh seems fair game to continually be put down.

(dwi’n dwli ar dy enw di! Dwi’n caru’r gân ❤️)

MoHub · 28/04/2025 20:02

TheOriginalEmu · 28/04/2025 00:27

I fully agree @Arlanymor I very much doubt this post would exist if it was about French or Chinese or whatever. But Welsh seems fair game to continually be put down.

(dwi’n dwli ar dy enw di! Dwi’n caru’r gân ❤️)

It absolutely would have existed as it was about not getting greetings in English (every time, every greeting, every year). It would have been the same regardless of the language.

I was not putting down Wales or the Welsh. It is a lovely country with loads of lovely people.

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iwentjasonwaterfalls · 28/04/2025 20:26

Arlanymor · 27/04/2025 19:26

So interesting how this panned out. I speak English, Welsh (only second because not my mother tongue because of aggressive English Parliament attitudes towards Welsh), French and German.

Some people are absolute tits aren’t they?

I’ve never in my whole life told anyone they are/aren’t allowed to converse in a language that they didn’t learn at their mother’s knee. Who the hell has the right to do that? And the continued ‘putting down’ of Welsh language is a way of putting down Wales. And anyone who claims otherwise is either abundantly dumb or deliberately evil. Choose your camp. And how fucking DARE you?

Well said 👏

Welsh should be classed as my second language, because I was born in England and moved to Wales and grew up in a household that spoke zero Welsh - however, I learned Welsh so well from the age of 4 that I ended up taking the first language GCSEs (and doing pretty well!), so I consider myself first language no matter what people say.

I've taught in a Welsh medium-school and run a Welsh-language business. I'd love for anyone to tell me I shouldn't use incidental Welsh because I wasn't born here.

Arlanymor · 28/04/2025 21:28

MoHub · 28/04/2025 20:02

It absolutely would have existed as it was about not getting greetings in English (every time, every greeting, every year). It would have been the same regardless of the language.

I was not putting down Wales or the Welsh. It is a lovely country with loads of lovely people.

But lovely, if you are pro Welsh and you like the land and the people as you state, then you would never have posted your original message.

We've worked so hard to get our language back and the fact that your brother uses it does not diminish you in any way.

Maybe you could have embraced his new life this side of the bridge and celebrated with him?

MoHub · 28/04/2025 23:15

Arlanymor · 28/04/2025 21:28

But lovely, if you are pro Welsh and you like the land and the people as you state, then you would never have posted your original message.

We've worked so hard to get our language back and the fact that your brother uses it does not diminish you in any way.

Maybe you could have embraced his new life this side of the bridge and celebrated with him?

I don't think it diminishes me, I just would have liked the occasional text greeting in English. I asked if that was unreasonable. It is. I accept the MN verdict.
I didn't want every text in English, just occasionally, given it is the only time he ever texts me back.

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Arlanymor · 28/04/2025 23:19

MoHub · 28/04/2025 23:15

I don't think it diminishes me, I just would have liked the occasional text greeting in English. I asked if that was unreasonable. It is. I accept the MN verdict.
I didn't want every text in English, just occasionally, given it is the only time he ever texts me back.

Ok, so how will you take the information you've received on this thread forward into your life?

And it's a bit of a new information that you and your brother aren't usually in contact.

MoHub · 28/04/2025 23:20

My original post said
"A greeting in Welsh means nothing to me" - for that I apologise.

It doesn't mean nothing, that was the wrong choice of words. I just meant I'm not a Welsh speaker.

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TheOriginalEmu · 29/04/2025 00:29

MoHub · 28/04/2025 23:15

I don't think it diminishes me, I just would have liked the occasional text greeting in English. I asked if that was unreasonable. It is. I accept the MN verdict.
I didn't want every text in English, just occasionally, given it is the only time he ever texts me back.

It sounds like then your issue is more with your brothers lack of communication than the fact he texts in Welsh. That changes things somewhat and shifts the focus from Welsh to his rubbishness.

JMSA · 29/04/2025 02:23

I think it’s sweet. He just trying to share a bit of where he lives.

AsIfIWish · 06/02/2026 16:55

I'm a bit late to the party, but found this thread by searching for the word 'Welsh,' because I love languages and Welsh is one of them.

However, I really understand where you are (unreasonably) coming from. I have a brother and sister-in-law whose every birthday and Christmas card to any of us is in Welsh. They are not Welsh, but they live there.

Honestly? It's really annoying. Every card is perfectly nice, but still, weirdly irritating! But the really silly thing is that I am literally learning Welsh by CHOICE as an adult, yet it still annoys me an unreasonable amount. Humans are weird things!!! 😁

Arlanymor · 06/02/2026 21:06

AsIfIWish · 06/02/2026 16:55

I'm a bit late to the party, but found this thread by searching for the word 'Welsh,' because I love languages and Welsh is one of them.

However, I really understand where you are (unreasonably) coming from. I have a brother and sister-in-law whose every birthday and Christmas card to any of us is in Welsh. They are not Welsh, but they live there.

Honestly? It's really annoying. Every card is perfectly nice, but still, weirdly irritating! But the really silly thing is that I am literally learning Welsh by CHOICE as an adult, yet it still annoys me an unreasonable amount. Humans are weird things!!! 😁

Glad you recognise - nine months after the original post - that your knee-jerk response is unreasonable. I think I can speak for Welsh speakers in Wales when I say that people who move here who embrace the culture - which includes the language - are exactly the kind of people we are happy to call new neighbours. Our language was nearly wiped out and to have people other than those born here and native speakers actually care about it is truly ffantastig.

Rydych chi'n bod yn chwerthinllyd!

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