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After death can you see what's happening on earth?

145 replies

PinataHeeHaw · 20/04/2025 16:52

This is something I regularly wonder. Obviously none of us know for sure.

OP posts:
FlatErica · 20/04/2025 21:25

No.

paddyclampster · 20/04/2025 21:26

Nobody can tell you for sure can they?!

mbizzles · 20/04/2025 21:29

I do believe, yes. (Was agnostic/atheist until about 5 years ago.) I've read / watched many, many accounts of people who have had NDEs in particular and I am struck by how these are very normal people - with no desire for 'fame' or attention - and they've had this extraordinary thing happen to them, which invariably, profoundly and irrevocably, changes their perception of the world forever. I've read all the counterarguments - it's "just" oxygen starvation/a hallucination, etc - and yet I still believe it's something else, something we cannot yet explain. If you go onto YouTube you'll find many NDE accounts - and plenty of people have published memoirs about their experiences too. I also recommend looking into the University of Virginia's Division of Perceptual Studies... There is so much content out there, you just need to have an open mind.

So yes, I believe!

Soonenough · 20/04/2025 21:33

I am pretty sure that if anyone was gifted enough to be in sync with people's presence after they have died and could interpret their meaning , that they are highly unlikely to be using MN as a form of communication. So unfortunately you are not going to get a positive and definite answer here.

blackpear · 20/04/2025 21:39

LillyPJ · 20/04/2025 20:27

Believing in something doesn't make it true.

No, but you said surely nobody thinks that dreams mean anything, and I was pointing out that plenty of people do.

Hastentoadd · 20/04/2025 21:44

PinataHeeHaw · 20/04/2025 16:55

What I mean, is are you aware what's happening on earth? I ask because of psychics saying that the dead person was aware of such a thing and was there with the family etc.

Are you grieving and thinking of a specific person who has passed?

catstudies · 20/04/2025 21:49

Do you think the chicken you had for dinner is aware of being eaten or has memories of before dying?

Floatlikeafeather2 · 20/04/2025 22:03

Welliguessso · 20/04/2025 21:17

You can think whatever you want to about me. It’s your choice. You can believe what I’ve written or you can consider it a load of rubbish it’s your free will to do and think whatever you wish. If anything I’ve said reassures just one person then i’ll be happy. To answer your question as to how I know certain things - I don’t know, I have no answer I just have what I can only describe as some kind of inbuilt knowledge that I’ve had for as far back as I can remember and it has always been immensely helpful to me and when the opportunity arises such as this thread I feel I can offer some suggestions or information to others.

Words fail me. I just can't be bothered. But please be careful with who you try to "help". It might back fire on you.

Welliguessso · 20/04/2025 22:11

Floatlikeafeather2 · 20/04/2025 22:03

Words fail me. I just can't be bothered. But please be careful with who you try to "help". It might back fire on you.

I don’t really talk about it often to anyone outside of my home , this thread was an opportunity but unless I'm directly asked a question about something like this I don’t volunteer information or broadcast my views, opinions or knowledge. We live by a certain belief system in my family based on my knowledge and it works well for us. I only commented on this thread as it felt right to.

doodahdayy · 20/04/2025 22:13

catstudies · 20/04/2025 21:49

Do you think the chicken you had for dinner is aware of being eaten or has memories of before dying?

No only humans have souls as we are super special.

saltandvinegarchipsticks · 20/04/2025 22:14

No, you’re gone, and that’s OK.

HelpMeGetThrough · 20/04/2025 22:18

PinataHeeHaw · 20/04/2025 16:55

What I mean, is are you aware what's happening on earth? I ask because of psychics saying that the dead person was aware of such a thing and was there with the family etc.

Nobody knows and certainly not a septic, they just talk shite.

Allseeingallknowing · 20/04/2025 22:48

HelpMeGetThrough · 20/04/2025 22:18

Nobody knows and certainly not a septic, they just talk shite.

One for the viscous thread!

MasterBeth · 20/04/2025 22:57

blackpear · 20/04/2025 19:19

What an unnecessarily mean response.

What an unnecessarily stupid post I replied to.

Dreams are not reality. That is kind of the point of dreams.

MasterBeth · 20/04/2025 23:05

Musclewoman · 20/04/2025 19:52

What sort of person mocks someone's need for comfort after losing their dad?...take a good look at yourself.

What sort of person encourages someone's delusion that they are communicating with the dead through the power of dreams?

MasterBeth · 20/04/2025 23:10

No, she wasn't simply sharing her experience.

Her experience was "I had a dream about my late father." That's understandable.

Her claim was that this proves that he is speaking to her from beyond the grave, which is nonsense and it does none of us any good to pretend this is either real or reasonable.

MasterBeth · 20/04/2025 23:12

suburberphobe · 20/04/2025 20:13

There's some mean posters on this thread. Glad I don't know you in real life.

There are some gullible posters on this thread. Hope I don't know you in real life.

kkloo · 20/04/2025 23:36

MasterBeth · 20/04/2025 23:10

No, she wasn't simply sharing her experience.

Her experience was "I had a dream about my late father." That's understandable.

Her claim was that this proves that he is speaking to her from beyond the grave, which is nonsense and it does none of us any good to pretend this is either real or reasonable.

Says who?

A huge amount of people take comfort in thinking they've got signs from loved ones who have passed, so yes it does do people good.

MasterBeth · 21/04/2025 09:25

kkloo · 20/04/2025 23:36

Says who?

A huge amount of people take comfort in thinking they've got signs from loved ones who have passed, so yes it does do people good.

It can give people comfort and make people feel good but it is not real. There is no good reason to think the dead talk to us. They are dead!

PrimalScreaming · 21/04/2025 12:34

Weirdly, I was just reading this: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/02/new-science-of-death-brain-activity-consciousness-near-death-experience
in the Guardian before seeing this thread. It's a long article but worth the read if you have time.
To precis... the science of near death / death itself is still in its infancy... Literally only decades - largely due to medical advancements meaning more can be researched now as people are more often bought back from the brink of death or even after technical death.
It appears that the brain and consciousness may be two separate things. So consciousness may extend beyond physical death. The article likens it to a TV being a channel for programmes. A TV doesn't hold or store programmes but it is a vessel for them to come and go and be accessed. The science is that perhaps our bodies are a vessel for consciousness. So the vessel - and our consciousness comes into the body and can also leave the body when the vessel dies. The article is from last year - so research still in its infancy.

To answer your question OP... I don't know and nobody else does either, including those giving you a flat 'no'. I doubt it in the way you are picturing, but there is definitely a lot more to be discovered about our consciousness.
And as other posters have also said - energy never dies, it can only transform... so even at it's most basic level, we do continue to exist in some form.

The new science of death: ‘There’s something happening in the brain that makes no sense’

The long read: New research into the dying brain suggests the line between life and death may be less distinct than previously thought

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/02/new-science-of-death-brain-activity-consciousness-near-death-experience

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