Why Use Piss? Don't get it.

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What's the significance?

How do they think this will help? Makes no sense to me at all.

https://reduxx.info/uk-trans-activists-stage-piss-filled-protest-in-front-of-londons-equality-and-human-rights-commission/

Actually the supreme court decision was about equal gender representation on public boards.

The Scottish Government felt it was fair that transwomen could take some of the female 50% because trans women are women, so women took them to court and asked the courts to confirm that for legal purposes transwomen are still legally men.

Following the Supreme Court decision if a transwoman takes up a place on a public board they will now take up a male place not a female place.

It's not at all about toilets. But it helps sort the toilets issue out too.

Do you think they do @JHound?

If only Jolyon had known…

Well yes - I understand that’s how things work in White Feminism.

In reality it’s not that straightforward.

I never said they did. But there is more to identity than simply sex.

Are you saying you don't think black women are female?

Racist as well as stupid.

Almost as if they are two completely different things.

But being female can never form part of a male person's identity. How could it? They have never lived a single day of their lives as a female person.

Please stop bringing race into this. Black women have played a vital role in gender critical feminism.

It is those on the gender identity side of the argument who dismiss the needs of women from racial/religious minorities and continually suggest that a trans woman is a woman in the same way that a black woman is a woman.

Alison Bailey or his her life and history not worth mentioning in your racist deflection?

The outcome really HAD to be that transwomen were ruled to be taking up male places on a public board.

Just imagine if the ruling had gone the other way. I bet it would only have been 2-3 years before every gov office and board in the country was purely made up of male chromosomes - all stating they were following the equality act.

It would have been insane.

My fear of the protesters is becoming mixed with a huge relief for the prevalence of common sense.

Quite apt really as they love to piss all over women's rights.

Are you suggesting identity makes a male a woman?

If not can you say what you mean in these posts.

Do elaborate, I’m sure it would be enlightening.

Oh purlease. Wheeling this white feminism wibble out when you don't have a logical leg to stand on, it's so tiresome.

Feminism is about females and unites all the females in the world. I may be white, but I am no more or less female than any other woman. We are all female and we all share the same sex-based oppression, that is why the male-female power and control structures are so similar around the world, in almost all cultures. That is WHY it's important for women to support each other snd stand together. Male oppression of females cuts across ethnicity, culture, class, wealth, age, and pretty much any other grouping you can think of.

Making up that because the category of female doesn't include males, that anyone is excluding particular groups of females from it is desperate. And the way you seem to think "intersectional" feminism is about not being white, shows clearly that you see white as the default, despite white being a minority globally. Maybe you don't understand that there are powerful feminist movements around the world and women have defied oppression and stereotyping since ancient times, and many of them were not white, as you would expect.

I understand that’s how things work in White Feminism.

Next you be resorting to the racist TRA trope that somehow black women are only women like men are women.

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So why are men complaining about single sex spaces being based on sex? These spaces have nothing to do with identity.

And of course there's more to identity than being female (or male). Just like there's more to identity than being black, disabled, under 18, short or tall etc etc but people are still allowed to care about these facts and that sometimes they are relevant. If you belong to any of these categories and someone tells you you're not allowed to have that category as a biological reality because people who don't share that category should be able to identify into it, you'll probably be annoyed and disagree. Doesn't mean you think it's the only thing that gives you your identity. Being female is no different.

👏 well said.

Why do you need to be racist? Feminism affects all females no matter which colour, race, creed or marital status. I'm non-white. It really, truly is that straightforward. Feminism doesn't ask your race or your age or religion. So your racism is disgraceful.

Gender Ideology defenders from experience tend to be virulently racist, as well as homophobic.

'identity' is completely and totally irrelevant. Women are oppressed based on our sex, not an 'identity' in our heads. Womens rights and single sex spaces are based on our sexed oppression. 'identity' doesn't even come into it!

No actually women can be oppressed based on many aspects of the identity depending on the woman: sex, ethnicity, race, nationality, socio-economic status, religion, sexuality etc.

My point flew over your head but reducing it to “male = oppressor class” / “female oppressed class” is woefully simplistic and why my feminism is intersectional.

Nobody is being racist. If you don’t know what White Feminism is just say that.

I literally have no idea how on earth you have managed to draw that conclusion. If anything my post demonstrated the exact opposite.

Google is your friend if you don’t know what terms mean.