Page 14 | To be sick of dogs in cafes/restaurants etc

TogepiSun · 19/04/2025 20:09

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/04/2025 20:06

Because it’s ruining it for everyone else?

Would you like my three screaming children sitting next to you in a cosy dinner service? Technically there’s nothing stopping me taking them, but I don’t so as not to ruin other people’s meals.

Would you like me to park so close to your drivers door that you can’t get in or out that side? Because technically I can, but I choose to leave ample space to be considerate.

There are LOTS of things we do just to be kind. Leaving your dog at home whilst you eat out is good manners, appreciative of those who are petrified (like my daughter who was nearly mauled by a dog), those with allergies, and those who find it u hygienic.

If you can’t see that, then I hope you’re not afforded good manners by other people. It goes both ways.

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But if I want to open a cafe that allows dogs, that's my right isn't it? What with it being my establishment.You don't have to eat there. You do have a choice not to eat there, you do know that right?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 19/04/2025 20:09

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/04/2025 20:06

Because it’s ruining it for everyone else?

Would you like my three screaming children sitting next to you in a cosy dinner service? Technically there’s nothing stopping me taking them, but I don’t so as not to ruin other people’s meals.

Would you like me to park so close to your drivers door that you can’t get in or out that side? Because technically I can, but I choose to leave ample space to be considerate.

There are LOTS of things we do just to be kind. Leaving your dog at home whilst you eat out is good manners, appreciative of those who are petrified (like my daughter who was nearly mauled by a dog), those with allergies, and those who find it u hygienic.

If you can’t see that, then I hope you’re not afforded good manners by other people. It goes both ways.

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If we're in a child friendly restaurant, by all means sit your kids at the next table to me. If we're in an establishment that's for adults only, then no, I wouldn't like it.

If I go to a cafe without my dog but it's dog friendly, I would expect there to be a good possibility of there being a dog there. If I go to a child friendly restaurant without my child, I'd still expect to see people there with their children.

TwinklyOrca · 19/04/2025 20:09

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I imagine this is actually you. You’ve come on a forum opposed to discuss with restaurant and cafe owners…🧐

BatchCookBabe · 19/04/2025 20:10

Dreamingi · 19/04/2025 18:07

Just this really
obviously not service dogs

but why all of a sudden is it ok for dogs to be allowed places where others are eating?!?

I can't think of one single occasion where I have been into a coffee shop/cafe/restaurant, and someone's brought their dog in. Like ever. Most places wouldn't allow it. Unless it's a guide dog of course.

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 20:10

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/04/2025 20:08

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

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If a place has a sign up saying 'dogs welcome', then I am doing nothing wrong by taking my dog there. She is well behaved and bothers no one.

It is bizarre you would go to such a place and then complain about it.

EmmaWoodhouseOfHighbury · 19/04/2025 20:12

What about in cathedrals? In St Edmundsbury cathedral dogs are not only allowed in but they can also attend services. My dog is quite a devout Christian so he's delighted.

DBSFstupid · 19/04/2025 20:13

Sleepalldaylong · 19/04/2025 18:15

Ffs, not this again

😂

Charlize43 · 19/04/2025 20:14

MadamCholetsbonnet · 19/04/2025 20:04

@Charlize43 what should be banned? Dogs? 😂

Business owners will cater for whoever will maximise their profits. If that’s dog owners and people who like seeing dogs when they’re out, then that’s going to be the norm.

You flouncing off isn’t going to change that. And dog haters are a minority so you are stuck with Wetherspoons and wherever else you can find.

Not necessarily.

One of the cafes near me has already put up a sorry no dogs sign after I reported them for having dog faeces on the floor to my local council food safety team. It took several months but clearly after a visit from the inspector, they changed their mind.

I suggest everyone who doesn't want to see dogs in these places do this (get your Council Tax's monies worth! Down with doggy do dos!).

TogepiSun · 19/04/2025 20:16

Dreamingi · 19/04/2025 20:09

Where have I wrote that word?

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So what does Dogstapo imply to you? Hahaha

AngelicKaty · 19/04/2025 20:16

EmmaWoodhouseOfHighbury · 19/04/2025 20:12

What about in cathedrals? In St Edmundsbury cathedral dogs are not only allowed in but they can also attend services. My dog is quite a devout Christian so he's delighted.

I think it was Bury St Edmunds I was visiting when I saw them having a service specifically for animals - it was lovely (and hilarious!) seeing animals being led into the cathedral. 😍

Missj25 · 19/04/2025 20:16

I’m coming off of this thread
people get a grip ! ! !
Why are people getting so wound up over dogs ffs 🙈 😂 😂 😂

TwinklyOrca · 19/04/2025 20:16

Dreamingi · 19/04/2025 20:09

Where have I wrote that word?

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You said dogstapo which is a play on gestapo, unless you’re not intelligent enough to realise that? And are using a term you’ve just seen somewhere else ?

MrsIcandothis · 19/04/2025 20:17

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 19/04/2025 19:15

No it isn’t. I have a milk allergy should I demand all cafes and restaurants stop serving dairy milk to avoid the risk of cross contamination. The businesses obviously value the pooch pound more than yours - it’s up to the businesses which customers they value more at the end of the day.

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Milk allergy = ingestion concerns
dog allergies = airborne issues
You know this, don’t short change your intelligence even for the mean spirited nature of this debate.

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/04/2025 20:18

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 20:10

If a place has a sign up saying 'dogs welcome', then I am doing nothing wrong by taking my dog there. She is well behaved and bothers no one.

It is bizarre you would go to such a place and then complain about it.

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“She doesn’t bother anyone”. Well obviously she does, people just don’t want to say anything.

Of course you can take her - I literally said that whilst you can doesn’t mean you should.

My toddler can also drop her bag of chocolate buttons or raisins next to your dog. I like dogs so I’d hope yours would be ok, but I’m sure you’ve decided that’s a risk you’re willing to take.

Goldusty · 19/04/2025 20:18

EffinMagicFairy · 19/04/2025 18:21

Businesses need to survive, we have a dog, if we go for evening meal or specifically shopping, she’s left at home, if we’ve taken her for morning walk and fancy a coffee or breakfast we take her in, if nice we will always choose to be outside. We can only do this if they allow dogs otherwise we would come home and have coffee/breakfast.

Really!? Well if I saw you with your darling pooch in the eatery I would actively choose to take my business elsewhere, so how is this this helping businesses survive? Presumably your pooch doesn't have it's own pooch purse to purchase a puppicino?!

HumansAreDestroyers · 19/04/2025 20:18

In my opinion, it should not be possible for any restaurant, café or pub to obtain a level 5 hygiene rating if they are making/selling food to be consumed on the premises and also allowing dogs into the serving/eating area. The presence of dog drool, dog dander and dog hairs in the eating area should lower the overall score by at least one point, surely, as the food is being served in unhygienic conditions.

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/04/2025 20:18

Missj25 · 19/04/2025 20:16

I’m coming off of this thread
people get a grip ! ! !
Why are people getting so wound up over dogs ffs 🙈 😂 😂 😂

Why are dog owners so intent on taking their dogs everywhere?!?! ffs

Jackiepumpkinhead · 19/04/2025 20:19

Dreamingi · 19/04/2025 20:09

No I’m asking her.

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Yes, asking someone where they live and if they’d be gobby to your face, no wonder your comment was deleted. The irony of criticising dog owners but behaving like a nasty little chav on a forum.

EntropyCentral · 19/04/2025 20:19

One of the cafes near me has already put up a sorry no dogs sign after I reported them for having dog faeces on the floor to my local council food safety team. It took several months but clearly after a visit from the inspector, they changed their mind

A woman in front of me in B&Q slipped in a pile of dogshit in the paint aisle.
If that doesn't make them ban dogs I don't know what will.

Charlize43 · 19/04/2025 20:20

HumansAreDestroyers · 19/04/2025 20:18

In my opinion, it should not be possible for any restaurant, café or pub to obtain a level 5 hygiene rating if they are making/selling food to be consumed on the premises and also allowing dogs into the serving/eating area. The presence of dog drool, dog dander and dog hairs in the eating area should lower the overall score by at least one point, surely, as the food is being served in unhygienic conditions.

^This

Actually I don't mind if it is an open cafe outside, like a park, or they are seated outside a pub. Despite what some may think, I'm not Dogzilla.

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 20:20

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/04/2025 20:18

“She doesn’t bother anyone”. Well obviously she does, people just don’t want to say anything.

Of course you can take her - I literally said that whilst you can doesn’t mean you should.

My toddler can also drop her bag of chocolate buttons or raisins next to your dog. I like dogs so I’d hope yours would be ok, but I’m sure you’ve decided that’s a risk you’re willing to take.

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Your toddler should not be close enough to my dog to drop anything she could reach. Unless you are letting your toddler wander about?

If someone is bothered by a dog asleep under a table, then that is a problem they have, not me. By bothering, I meant going up to people etc.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 19/04/2025 20:23

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 20:20

Your toddler should not be close enough to my dog to drop anything she could reach. Unless you are letting your toddler wander about?

If someone is bothered by a dog asleep under a table, then that is a problem they have, not me. By bothering, I meant going up to people etc.

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People keep control of their children???

Mum2jenny · 19/04/2025 20:23

Businesses tend to work on a profit margin. If the area they are in is good for getting ppl with their dogs as clients, they will be dog friendly. If located in a city centre, dog friendly may not make sense. It’s very much location dependent imo. And I have a small dog and most ppl don’t see her when I’m out and about, as she will sit on my lap and sleep if in a coffee shop.

Didimum · 19/04/2025 20:25

BatchCookBabe · 19/04/2025 20:10

I can't think of one single occasion where I have been into a coffee shop/cafe/restaurant, and someone's brought their dog in. Like ever. Most places wouldn't allow it. Unless it's a guide dog of course.

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That’s highly unusual. I’ve lived across three counties in the last five years and almost all cafes and pubs are overrun with dogs. Our local library even lets them in which is awful.

EntropyCentral · 19/04/2025 20:25

People keep control of their children???

And dogs, obviously. The only time I've had cause for concern over dogs getting too close to my babies/toddlers is when the dog has been allowed to roam.