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TRAs deface Millicent Fawcett statue

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Peony1897 · 19/04/2025 17:16

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/19/transgender-activists-deface-millicent-fawcett-statue/

How dare they.

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SALaw · 19/04/2025 20:43

Diverze · 19/04/2025 18:02

People are allowed to protest.

Anyone hurt? Was anyone behaving violently? Anyone arrested?

Quite a few parents of trans adults I know attended and they describe it as powerful, supportive and positive and said they didn't see any trouble.

And X is not the most reliable and non biased of sources is it, any more than pink news?

Also, would "fag rights" be written by a trans person?

Edited

Well it was a very vocal and high profile trans rights activist (India Willoughby) who said they were going to do a pee protest so yeah it does sound like them?!

Conistonhawks · 19/04/2025 20:49

so they are trying to prove they are women, saying they are women.

no true women would vandalise this statue. The more they do things like this the less support they will get. I think a lot of eyes have been opened.

WilfredsPies · 19/04/2025 20:50

OctopusFriend · 19/04/2025 20:29

Has anyone got a copy of the placard in Manchester, saying "I will piss where I want"? Someone told me about it, but I haven't seen it.

You have to click on the photo to see the whole thing, but you get the gist from the bottom half of the placard. If you don’t want to click on the link, it comes up if you google the phrase with Manchester trans protest.

https://www.nurphoto.com/gallery/572432

viques · 19/04/2025 20:50

SALaw · 19/04/2025 20:43

Well it was a very vocal and high profile trans rights activist (India Willoughby) who said they were going to do a pee protest so yeah it does sound like them?!

Apparently Rose Schmits from Pottery Throwdown is also threatening to be a phantom pisser. Classy.

And bloody typical of men, I have memories of wheeling my buggy through streams of stinking man piss outside Highbury and Islington Station whenever Arsenal were playing at the old Highbury ground. Just because you can guys, doesn’t mean you should.

Catlady63 · 19/04/2025 20:51

Screamingabdabz · 19/04/2025 20:40

😂 you WISH

We - biological women - asked the Supreme Court nicely to have our rights protected. The trans community are only relevant because for some pesky reason many of them don’t want girls and women to have safety, dignity or sex-based rights. The TRAs are only ones kicking off as far as I can see.

And we - biological women - won the argument. "Transwomen are women" has been proved to be wrong.

But I'm sure MPs are demanding that Parliament be recalled immediately so that emergency legislation can be passed to say that "woman means woman, or man who wants to be a woman, even if it's just to go to a womens prison because he's a rapist and wouldn't be happy in a mens prison, because he doesn't want to rape men."

Apologies for exaggerating for effect, I know that the number of transwomen in prisons for sexual assault and other violent crimes against women is statistically insignificant, so according to TRA maths hasn't ever happened.

NextRinny · 19/04/2025 20:53

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

Women have never complained about our presence. Oh that complaint? Just disregard it, 'tis just bitching.

Diverze · 19/04/2025 20:54

Redorangehaze · 19/04/2025 20:35

Sorry but I have seen NO signs like this at any GC marches or public gatherings. None. And none on marches for other causes I support. But it’s quite the feature of TRA protests. The organizers should have been clear such placards were not acceptable and demanded they be removed. They didn’t though, did they? Why is all that?

We’ve been in this movement a decade. We have all experienced the threats and intimidation, from your side, including the attempts to stop us from being able to provide for our families and ourselves by getting us sacked. . You can’t gaslight us that yours is a peaceful movement. And I suggest you stop gaslighting yourself too.

I am not on the trans "side". I am naturally GC.

I just know that most trans people are not hateful or violent. I have a trans child and know many others and none are aggressive or nasty. They are rather vulnerable people who are mostly autistic and they are scared.

I have watched both sides polarise over the years. Just on this thread a now deleted post read "they are disgusting people".

Of course violent signs are a pathetic own goal and of course there are bad actors out there. But frothing over the daily express, mail and telegraph showing a highly curated set of signs out of ten of hundreds of perfectly mild signs that are non-violent is playing into the hands of those in the media who enjoy stoking division. Clearly the vast vast vast majority of people attending these rallies are not violent people who want to decapitate or shoot women. I for one would like those people removed from the protests, but I don't think it's my trans child's fault that some wankers are also trans.

My trans (adult) child spent today volunteering at a community garden, planting potatoes and spring onions. She has never sought for anyone to be sacked, nor used a female toilet or service. She just wants to live peacefully in the way that most makes sense to her. I will not allow you or anyone else to tar her with the same brush as someone carrying a placard that spews hate.

TheKeatingFive · 19/04/2025 20:57

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

Gosh, I can't think why we'd be bitching about this behaviour, how unreasonable of us 🙄

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Peony1897 · 19/04/2025 20:58

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Kitchensnails · 19/04/2025 20:58

Diverze · 19/04/2025 20:54

I am not on the trans "side". I am naturally GC.

I just know that most trans people are not hateful or violent. I have a trans child and know many others and none are aggressive or nasty. They are rather vulnerable people who are mostly autistic and they are scared.

I have watched both sides polarise over the years. Just on this thread a now deleted post read "they are disgusting people".

Of course violent signs are a pathetic own goal and of course there are bad actors out there. But frothing over the daily express, mail and telegraph showing a highly curated set of signs out of ten of hundreds of perfectly mild signs that are non-violent is playing into the hands of those in the media who enjoy stoking division. Clearly the vast vast vast majority of people attending these rallies are not violent people who want to decapitate or shoot women. I for one would like those people removed from the protests, but I don't think it's my trans child's fault that some wankers are also trans.

My trans (adult) child spent today volunteering at a community garden, planting potatoes and spring onions. She has never sought for anyone to be sacked, nor used a female toilet or service. She just wants to live peacefully in the way that most makes sense to her. I will not allow you or anyone else to tar her with the same brush as someone carrying a placard that spews hate.

No one has an issue with people like your child, in fact people attending these kind of protests are making life harder for trans people who want to get on with their lives in peace. So people who support people such as your child should be calling these sort of things out, they are making life a million times harder than women wanting to protect their spaces are.

Twilight7777 · 19/04/2025 20:59

Typical Men having a tantrum! Hope they are all charged.

spannasaurus · 19/04/2025 21:00

Of course violent signs are a pathetic own goal

You're condemning the signs not for their violent nature but because they make the cause look bad, really?

namechangeGOT · 19/04/2025 21:01

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

Another day, another chance for the ‘trans’ community to show the world exactly who they are.

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 19/04/2025 21:01

Totally agree - misogyny ripples under the surface of society.

M Fawcett a very interesting person who didn't approve of the Pankhurst's support of enlisting men to join WW1, she was the leading light of the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies rather than the Pankhurst Women's Social & Political Union. She disproved of the way that the WSPU leaders weren't democratically elected & thought the way forward was to educate people - men & women Hence the Fawcett Society. Her sister was the first woman doctor - Elizabeth Garratt Anderson.

My middle names are Millicent Elizabeth in memory of her & her sister as my mother was a fervent feminist & big believer that education is the way forward for women & their children. Shame that's not so in Afghanistan ATM.

CamillaMacauley · 19/04/2025 21:02

Diverze · 19/04/2025 19:29

Ok. I thought fags was an unpleasant term for male homosexuals.

I guess that’s what a lot of trans women are? Males who have sex with males (just wearing a wig while doing it). So maybe they see themselves as “fags” hence the graffiti?

Diverze · 19/04/2025 21:03

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Let me get this clear, are you genuinely saying that my trans daughter is most likely savage, psychopathic, sexually or physically aggressive?

Thanks for proving who is being hateful in this particular discussion.

Actually yes I do know because she doesn't go online or use social media or even carry a phone.

TheOtherRaven · 19/04/2025 21:06

James Dreyfus

https://nitter.net/dreyfusjames/status/1913676789987057795

He's right. Anyone making excuses for this is enabling it.

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 19/04/2025 21:06

OH PLEASE let's not let this sink into an anti-trans post.

I have friends & relatives who are Trans, Gay, Queer & non-binary. Live & let live. Please, we are all above this.

Diverze · 19/04/2025 21:06

CamillaMacauley · 19/04/2025 21:02

I guess that’s what a lot of trans women are? Males who have sex with males (just wearing a wig while doing it). So maybe they see themselves as “fags” hence the graffiti?

That's not logical if they also are insistent that they are actual women.

They can't both acknowledge they are a gay man and claim to be an actual woman.

More likely I would think to be a trans man who identified as a gay man (and who is therefore a natal female).

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/04/2025 21:08

Diverze · 19/04/2025 21:03

Let me get this clear, are you genuinely saying that my trans daughter is most likely savage, psychopathic, sexually or physically aggressive?

Thanks for proving who is being hateful in this particular discussion.

Actually yes I do know because she doesn't go online or use social media or even carry a phone.

That poster stated ‘TRAs’ who have been savage with particular behaviours. If your trans daughter doesn’t fall into those behaviours then it wasn’t directed at you.

CamillaMacauley · 19/04/2025 21:09

Diverze · 19/04/2025 21:06

That's not logical if they also are insistent that they are actual women.

They can't both acknowledge they are a gay man and claim to be an actual woman.

More likely I would think to be a trans man who identified as a gay man (and who is therefore a natal female).

Well they’re not logical are they? Some of them insist they have a cervix. 😁

some may genuinely think they’re women. For others though being trans is a fetish, and they know perfectly well that they’re men, gay men.

JudgeJ · 19/04/2025 21:09

lnks · 19/04/2025 17:38

Getting their dicks out in public but still claiming to be women!

Will the hes sit or stand?

viques · 19/04/2025 21:09

TheOtherRaven · 19/04/2025 21:06

James Dreyfus

https://nitter.net/dreyfusjames/status/1913676789987057795

He's right. Anyone making excuses for this is enabling it.

Thanks for posting this. Says it all really.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/04/2025 21:11

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 19/04/2025 21:06

OH PLEASE let's not let this sink into an anti-trans post.

I have friends & relatives who are Trans, Gay, Queer & non-binary. Live & let live. Please, we are all above this.

I have lovely men in my life and a (male) partner who wouldn’t harm a fly. I wouldn’t try and shut down a thread on males as a sex class being statically the ones who will cause the most harm because of the aforementioned.

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