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To think you should never cohabit with a man unless he’s paying the majority of the bills?

685 replies

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:47

Split finances = split energy.

OP posts:
Coconutter24 · 19/04/2025 19:03

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:17

What is this invisible labour?

Whatever the OP is referring to when they put invisible labour

Stravaig · 19/04/2025 19:05

Are we to infer that spending hours on social media promoting your regressive relationship ideology is Feminine Nurturer Energy? Do the 'masculine providers' i.e. incels agree? Aren't you supposed to be tending the home, raising the children, providing sexual services on demand?

Stravaig · 19/04/2025 19:09

Uricon2 · 19/04/2025 18:52

initiating conversations to reconnect

Does anyone else have a vision of the OP drifting around in lightweight linens, calmly "initiating reconnecting conversations" while deadheading the roses?

@ThisSereneSnail men still go AWOL from such relationships, with great frequency. Usually the sort of men who have the resources to totally screw you over in the settlement

Edited

Definitely wearing Toast! Their marketing bollocks uses the same AI guffery.

SoScarletItWas · 19/04/2025 19:16

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 18:54

I can just imagine the look on DH’s face if I said I wanted to initiate reconnecting conversations 🤣. He’d wonder if I’d had too many cocktails 🍸

Try doing it barefoot in wafty linen, from under your eyelashes. While he checks the pension growth online. Or something 🤷🏼‍♀️

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 19:26

SoScarletItWas · 19/04/2025 19:16

Try doing it barefoot in wafty linen, from under your eyelashes. While he checks the pension growth online. Or something 🤷🏼‍♀️

Should I be bringing him a copy of the Financial Times?🤣

KidneyRock · 19/04/2025 19:29

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:57

Because I believe in masculine provider energy and I’m not looking to split hairs or bills. If I’m showing up emotionally, practically, and often doing more of the invisible labour that keeps a household running, I don’t think it’s wild to expect financial leadership in return. It’s about alignment. Some of us just don’t want a 50/50 roommate dynamic in our relationships.

Edited

I am 30 years into marriage. We have both always worked full-time and split childcare, laundry, cooking and all duties equally. Our kids have now left home and our relationship is better than ever. No regrets at all.

I would never go into a relationship depending on a man. I decided that in my teens, and fortunately my adult kids feel the same, the boys and the girls.

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:29

In my religion the husband has to pay all the bills, pay the mortgage. And I get to keep ALL my income.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 19/04/2025 19:32

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:29

In my religion the husband has to pay all the bills, pay the mortgage. And I get to keep ALL my income.

Which religion is this? Asking for OP!

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 19:33

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:29

In my religion the husband has to pay all the bills, pay the mortgage. And I get to keep ALL my income.

Why?

KidneyRock · 19/04/2025 19:35

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:14

I’m not “up to” anything - I said what I meant and clearly it has resonated (positively or not). If people disagree, they’re free to say so. But implying there’s some hidden agenda because the post struck a nerve is a bit telling, no?

For me, the nerve hit is that there are women like you being poor role models for the next generation. My kids are lucky and that they have equal and feminist parents. But you are spreading the message that it is okay for women to be subservient and depend upon men. It makes me angry that there are still women like you around Undermining the fight for equality.

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 19:39

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:29

In my religion the husband has to pay all the bills, pay the mortgage. And I get to keep ALL my income.

Yet another reason I am very happy to be an atheist. I could never submit to a religion that dictated I couldn't be an equal participant in my own marriage.

Most religions are patriarchal and sexist in any case. Men may be required to pay the bills, but they certainly have the better deal.

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:39

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 19/04/2025 19:32

Which religion is this? Asking for OP!

Islam

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:41

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 19:39

Yet another reason I am very happy to be an atheist. I could never submit to a religion that dictated I couldn't be an equal participant in my own marriage.

Most religions are patriarchal and sexist in any case. Men may be required to pay the bills, but they certainly have the better deal.

I have different but equal responsibilites in marriage.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 19:42

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:41

I have different but equal responsibilites in marriage.

What happens if your DH is in a low paid job which isn’t enough to cover the mortgage, bills etc?

KidneyRock · 19/04/2025 19:45

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:29

In my religion the husband has to pay all the bills, pay the mortgage. And I get to keep ALL my income.

I am Muslim. This bears no resemblance to the life of any Muslim I know.

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 19:45

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:41

I have different but equal responsibilites in marriage.

But you can't contribute financially? Thanks but no thanks.

If you scratch the surface, I think you will find that most religions favour men.

PenelopeJane91 · 19/04/2025 19:48

Can you explain what you mean by financial leadership? I’m struggling to understand what you mean by this when you seem to say that it doesn’t mean being the higher earner.

Arancia · 19/04/2025 19:48

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 19:39

Yet another reason I am very happy to be an atheist. I could never submit to a religion that dictated I couldn't be an equal participant in my own marriage.

Most religions are patriarchal and sexist in any case. Men may be required to pay the bills, but they certainly have the better deal.

What a dumb, arrogant, smug post. No religion dictates that women can't contribute financially if they want to do it. But yes, some religions decree that women aren't obligated to contribute financially. No one forces you to keep your own money, by all means subside a man if you want to, God won't send you to Hell for it, lol.

Before acting so smug online about your beliefs, maybe know what you're being smug about first.

AnxiousOCDMum · 19/04/2025 19:51

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 18:16

Does your DH not nurture - really just means look after - you?

He does, and our kids, but obviously he has less time to do so as he is working, but when he’s at home yes absolutely. Maybe nurture isn’t the right word but I’m sure you know what I mean. The main point is we have our “roles” and does bring harmony and balance to us.

ThinWomansBrain · 19/04/2025 19:51

"I mean that when the financial foundation isn’t solid or feels uneven, it can ripple into everything else "

with either partner paying the majority, then it's uneven.

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:53

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 19:42

What happens if your DH is in a low paid job which isn’t enough to cover the mortgage, bills etc?

This might sound harsh, but I wouldn't have gotten married to someone on a low paid job.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 19:55

AnxiousOCDMum · 19/04/2025 19:51

He does, and our kids, but obviously he has less time to do so as he is working, but when he’s at home yes absolutely. Maybe nurture isn’t the right word but I’m sure you know what I mean. The main point is we have our “roles” and does bring harmony and balance to us.

DH and I have both always worked full time but DH, a doctor, is much better at the nurturing. Time has little to do with the ‘role’.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 19:56

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:53

This might sound harsh, but I wouldn't have gotten married to someone on a low paid job.

So love doesn’t come into it ?

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 19:57

PenelopeJane91 · 19/04/2025 19:48

Can you explain what you mean by financial leadership? I’m struggling to understand what you mean by this when you seem to say that it doesn’t mean being the higher earner.

Regardless of what she thinks it means I read it as financial control. Financial leadership sounds like corporate speak.

FatimasBakery · 19/04/2025 19:57

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 19:45

But you can't contribute financially? Thanks but no thanks.

If you scratch the surface, I think you will find that most religions favour men.

I can if I want to. I'm not obligated to.