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To think you should never cohabit with a man unless he’s paying the majority of the bills?

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ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:47

Split finances = split energy.

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BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 16:32

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:29

I don’t think valuing masculine provision requires moving continents - it just requires clarity, self-respect and alignment with someone who shares your values. The idea that only certain regions or cultures “allow” for that kind of dynamic says more about how boxed-in some people feel than it does about the actual range of relationships that exist.

So what's your issue exactly? What are you posting about if you have the dynamic you want? Or are you saying you don’t have the dynamic you want?

Charlize43 · 19/04/2025 16:32

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:04

Not remotely. I don’t want to be WAG, a Victoria Beckham or anyone else - I want to be myself, in a relationship built on mutual respect, aligned values, and complimentary strengths.

Wanting a partner who leads financially doesn’t mean I want to sit around posing in sunglasses - it means I want to build something solid, where both of us show up in different but equally meaningful ways. If that’s hard to grasp without resorting to tabloid caricatures, that’s on you.

If someone is paying more and someone paying less, then you have inequality there. Why should the person paying more respect the person paying less? Could potentially also open the door to resentment, especially if your provider starts to feel less than charitable.

I don't see anything solid when your masculine energy provider decides he wants to pay for a much younger feminine energy provider instead of the old one he's got bored with and no longer wants to pay for.

You are leaving yourself in a very vulnerable position.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/04/2025 16:33

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ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:35

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 19/04/2025 15:26

So why is the provider “masculine”?

if the female strengths are bringing in the money and providing for the family, as many women are capable of, is that energy still “masculine”?

what makes it masculine other than outdated stereotypes and gender roles?

When I refer to masculine provision, I’m not saying only men can provide - I’m saying that in the relational dynamic I choose, the act of leading with financial stability and protective structure feels aligned with masculine energy. It’s about polarity, not outdated roles.

A woman can absolutely provide and plenty do. But when she’s also carrying the emotional and invisible load of the relationship and the finances, it often leads to burnout and resentment. Some of us don’t want to be in that position.

It’s not that money = masculinity. It’s that leading with provision, in partnership with nurturing and emotional depth, creates a flow that feels more balanced - to me. That doesn’t make it universal. Just intentional.

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SunnyViper · 19/04/2025 16:37

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:35

When I refer to masculine provision, I’m not saying only men can provide - I’m saying that in the relational dynamic I choose, the act of leading with financial stability and protective structure feels aligned with masculine energy. It’s about polarity, not outdated roles.

A woman can absolutely provide and plenty do. But when she’s also carrying the emotional and invisible load of the relationship and the finances, it often leads to burnout and resentment. Some of us don’t want to be in that position.

It’s not that money = masculinity. It’s that leading with provision, in partnership with nurturing and emotional depth, creates a flow that feels more balanced - to me. That doesn’t make it universal. Just intentional.

Nothing you have said has altered my initial reaction of bs. There is nothing masculine about providing. If that works for you, then great but it’s not a generalisation.

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 16:37

Come back when he’s replaced you with a younger model and see how you feel about financial leadership then.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 16:37

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:24

Yes because for me, it’s not just about who earns more but who leads financially in the relationship. If I earn more but still find myself covering the majority of practical and emotional labour, I wouldn’t also want to carry the financial burden on top.

It’s about balance, not income stats. If a man wants to take on that role and values the kind of emotional presence and home life I create, then what matters most is the dynamic, not the payslip.

Of course, this won’t work for everyone. But for those of us who want polarity in our relationships, this is what it looks like.

Your life is a mess if Mr Wonderful dumps you. How long have you been married?

We have financial, emotional and practical equality - I recommend you try it. It’s worked for us for 30 years.

ChristmaslightsuptilJanuary · 19/04/2025 16:37

Oh it's you again.

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 16:38

ChristmaslightsuptilJanuary · 19/04/2025 16:37

Oh it's you again.

You recognise?

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:38

FastnetLundyRockall · 19/04/2025 15:27

Can women not be leaders then?

Of course women can be leaders and many are. But not all leadership looks the same and not every woman wants to lead in the same way. My point was that both sons and daughters should be raised with purpose, emotional intelligence, and the tools to create lives that reflect their values - not just society’s default. Leadership isn’t gendered but how we express it often is. And that’s okay.

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Deanthebean · 19/04/2025 16:40

Are you Lauren off married at first sight?

Simonjt · 19/04/2025 16:40

I didn’t realise golddiggers were still in fashion, seems rather 1980’s.

The kids of these relationships don’t do well, the boys grow up entitled and seeing women as slaves, where as the girls have poor aspirations and learn they are a household appliance and nothing more:

Iwannakeepondancing · 19/04/2025 16:42

I work PT and my DH works FT and earns a lot more than me so of course he pays the majority because he has more money! I work PT to look after my son after school so I do most of the housework, the shopping etc. If I worked FT and earned more, it would be the other way around. If we were equal it would be 50:50. There are a lot of factors to think about!

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:43

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 15:32

How long have you been married?

Funny how no one asks that when someone’s preaching 50/50. I’m not sharing a tax return - I’m sharing a perspective.

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ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2025 16:43

You don’t really say much about your life experience @ThisSereneSnail but you come across as really naive and young.

im 55 and have been in 4 long term relationships and one marriage - to a very financially wealthy masculine man - who turned that into financial abuse and infidelity, maybe I didn’t bring enough feminine energy to it, too busy working and raising 3 kids.

my point is that all relationship dynamics and ‘power’ shift through the years and with life changes - your ideal man could become abusive, resentful, made redundant, have a stroke - you have this very Disney princess happy ever after view which does suggest you are young and/or very inexperienced in relationships

me, I always knew my worth so I’m happily single by choice for the past 16 years - it’s bliss

Boomer55 · 19/04/2025 16:44

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:47

Split finances = split energy.

Split 50/50 yes. Anything else, no.🤷‍♀️

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 16:44

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:43

Funny how no one asks that when someone’s preaching 50/50. I’m not sharing a tax return - I’m sharing a perspective.

Come on now it’s a simple question.

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:44

VeraWangTea · 19/04/2025 15:34

Soft energy?

What tariff is that on then?

Soft energy’s not on a tariff but it’s priceless. Not everyone has the range and that’s okay.

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Parker231 · 19/04/2025 16:46

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:43

Funny how no one asks that when someone’s preaching 50/50. I’m not sharing a tax return - I’m sharing a perspective.

Its a simple question as length of marriage can impact on your view point.

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 16:46

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:44

Soft energy’s not on a tariff but it’s priceless. Not everyone has the range and that’s okay.

Have you ever actually had a proper, long, relationship with a man at all?

ChristmaslightsuptilJanuary · 19/04/2025 16:46

I believe this AI bot poster may have had recent threads about how much an engagement ring should cost, why a man should pay on the first date, and why it's not acceptable to date a man who earns less even if they are kind.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 16:46

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 16:44

Soft energy’s not on a tariff but it’s priceless. Not everyone has the range and that’s okay.

What is soft energy?

ZoggyStirdust · 19/04/2025 16:46

But op you are still equating financially providing and “leading” a relationship with your so called “masculine energy”.

why is it masculine to provide?

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 16:47

ChristmaslightsuptilJanuary · 19/04/2025 16:46

I believe this AI bot poster may have had recent threads about how much an engagement ring should cost, why a man should pay on the first date, and why it's not acceptable to date a man who earns less even if they are kind.

I think you may be right as this is a first time poster. Definitely AI vibes.

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 16:48

ChristmaslightsuptilJanuary · 19/04/2025 16:46

I believe this AI bot poster may have had recent threads about how much an engagement ring should cost, why a man should pay on the first date, and why it's not acceptable to date a man who earns less even if they are kind.

They sound like someone who has never been in a long term, committed, grown up relationship.

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