Sending love to trans people on MN and beyond

[cassandre]

This isn't an AIBU. I just wanted to send love to trans people, in the UK especially, and to other members of the LGBTQIA+ community.

This hasn't been the easiest week for trans people, but there are a lot of us out there who accept you for who you are. We have your backs and we believe that eventually, tolerance and compassion will win.💖💖💖

Love from a longtime MNer and trans-inclusive feminist.

There is no such thing as gendered brains.

If there was the Scottish Government would have shouted this out loud and clear. They didn't.

I like the fact you haven't even bothered to read the articles you were previously bleating on about like a furious hunt for evidence of WMD. It's a bit embarrassing for you PP. Why don't you take some time to have a read, engage your noggin and then come back when you have calmed down for a bit more debate.

All the more reason to base the law on sex, which is binary and immutable.

Often shades of grey, not always

Not to mention if you looks that eh after list there are no neurologists, just psychiatrists, who have no authority to make judgements on differences in the physical brain.

I can believe it. The reason I have long hair is that when it was short, I was regularly mistaken for a man, well, given my shortness, a boy. People have mistaken me for my husband's son before now. And I was born a woman.

The paper also doesn’t claim that there is “woman brain” and “man brain” and that sexes are based on this. It’s simply a psychological study of trans people and provides no clarity that trans people are biologically a different sex.

You can access MN but can’t use a C&P function?
You also can’t interpret academic research properly given you claim that study showed sex is classified by a “sexed” brain - which it doesn’t

But people are complex. Generally the law moves towards a greater understanding if people and how to accommodate their needs. The needs of both women and trans women for safety and inclusion in society are equally valid. A better ruling would have taken account of both

Yes, but not all aspects of science and certainly not sex.

I have, it doesn’t claim what poetry said it claimed.

Now -we’ve cleared that up - what’s a woman?

It did take account of both. If trans identifying men want their own spaces they can campaign for them.

This should have said author list

But transwomen do have protection under the law - but as transwomen, not women. To claim the only way they can be protected is to have access to single sex spaces of women is frankly wrong

They’ve never w aged to though, barring a couple posted upthread. They want validation by barging into women’s spaces. OR they want women to do the donkey work, as usual, and campaign for them

As long as these guys keep out of womens toilets and women's sports I wish them a very nice life.

You haven't read the articles though ? If you have, give me a summary. Don't just use the abstract remember ! 😄

It was autocorrect. Samsung isn't noted for its literacy.

Not to be picky but you haven’t told us what a woman is yet.

Not to be picky but you haven’t told us what a woman is yet.

Also, no they didn’t

I never claimed this. I claimed there are differences. The brains of transgender youth are more likely to be misclassified, and to show characteristics of the opposite sex. That is what the articles show.

Shades of grey.

Shades of grey are of great importance to research but they are not a good basis for law.

Of course I am aware that some science is black and white, but results in new areas of research are often grey

That's Samantha Sung to you ! 😂

I have read the articles yes. See my conclusion above

give me a summary

No, find it yourself. I don’t acquiesce to demands from misogynists especially ones who can’t say please

They did but that's ok. What's your response to the findings of the article on MRI brains?