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To have handed the new owners the no more HMO letter from the council regarding the street.

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itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:13

Thats it basically, new owners of down the road have been at the property this morning with the builder.
They politely introduced themselves, I welcomed them to the street and said look forward to seeing them around.

The Man then told me we won't see them as the house will be a HMO.
I asked do you not know there is an order no more HMOs on the street - did the estate agent not tell you, it's a protected area due to the amount of HMOs in the area. The 10% rule.

They both looked flabbergasted and informed me it would be a HMO.
Said I would be back in a minute, toddled back to mine printed the email (took out personal info) and handed them the information.
Pissed was not the word. I have been told I am lying and made this up. Advised they speak to councilort confirm the information.

YABU - leave them to - even though there is an order saying no more on the street.
YANBU - this information should be on the house listing when selling so potential buyers know.

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TasWair · 17/04/2025 08:16

I would have expected this to come up in searches when buying the house. I can understand if they're shocked that it didn't!
I'd watch what's happening and be ready to give the council a heads up.

ExtraOnions · 17/04/2025 08:18

Does it not depend on the size of the HMO? Some are subject to planning, and some are not.

2dogsandabudgie · 17/04/2025 08:19

Do they have to apply to the Council for a licence for a HMO?

GoodCharl · 17/04/2025 08:20

Id also inform the council of this encounter

SwanOfThoseThings · 17/04/2025 08:20

They shouldn't be shooting the messenger! They need to take this up with the council, their conveyancer and the estate agent, assuming they made it clear that's what they were buying the property for.

Yes, you should inform the council if it becomes a HMO against the order.

MrsMoastyToasty · 17/04/2025 08:21

Check on your councils website to see if they have planning permission for change of use.

itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:23

ExtraOnions · 17/04/2025 08:18

Does it not depend on the size of the HMO? Some are subject to planning, and some are not.

No it's the poor woman down the road that will have a HMO behind her and either side of her. This isn't allowed in the area I live.

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itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:24

MrsMoastyToasty · 17/04/2025 08:21

Check on your councils website to see if they have planning permission for change of use.

It was denied when the last person tried to do it. We were told it couldn't happen due to neighbour being HMO sandwiched effectively

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maslab · 17/04/2025 08:24

Did you enjoy printing that email off? 🤣

itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:25

Plus first 4 houses would be HMOs on the street!

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SpringIsSpringing25 · 17/04/2025 08:26

Have you checked with the council whether this will be enforced or whether it's just an email to placate local residents.

Wolfpa · 17/04/2025 08:26

Could things have changed since you received the email as the conveyancing should have spotted this issue.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/04/2025 08:27

You were 💯 in the right.
HMO's are a disaster.
Families squished together.

TeenLifeMum · 17/04/2025 08:27

you managed to get your home printer to work that quickly?! Impressed. Misses point of thread

legsekeven · 17/04/2025 08:28

Imagine the arguments in their house right now. It’s good they know at this stage as at least they can just make it a buy to let rather than spend money converting it. Do get on to the council asap though

itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:31

No change for use as of yet on council website. However the one that was denied (for this property) is still showing as denied - reason being above the 10% in area and also a normal dwelling will be surrounded on 3 sides by a HMOs.

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Daleksatemyshed · 17/04/2025 08:31

It would be a kindness to tell the woman whose house is next door Op, give her the chance to object asap

ExpressCheckout · 17/04/2025 08:32

Our council has a set limit, "5 or more people of 2 or more households, where at least 2 households share amenities for example bathrooms, kitchens".

The only reason why I know this is because a local owner has sneakily tried to submit an extension planning application which, quite obviously, is for an HMO.

itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:33

TeenLifeMum · 17/04/2025 08:27

you managed to get your home printer to work that quickly?! Impressed. Misses point of thread

DP is a tech man 😅this skills with the WiFi and printer are worth his bad habits 😂

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itsmeits · 17/04/2025 08:35

legsekeven · 17/04/2025 08:28

Imagine the arguments in their house right now. It’s good they know at this stage as at least they can just make it a buy to let rather than spend money converting it. Do get on to the council asap though

This is it before thay pay a builder to start work and find out its a no.
His argument was but there is lots on this street in this area.
Yes I agree he's right. However there can be too many which is the case on the strett and area.

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Lovelysummerdays · 17/04/2025 08:37

They’d of needed to apply for HMO at some point. Personally I think it’s probably better they find out now before spend lots converting it.

They, or their solicitor, really should of done their research.

BrilliantLouse · 17/04/2025 08:37

How did he not know this?
He's either thick and inexperienced LL or you're mistaken.

SnoozingFox · 17/04/2025 08:42

I don't think you are reasonable or unreasonable. You have given them the information, their pissed-off-ness or the estate agent's competence is nothing to do with you. It's for the owners to take up with their lawyer/estate agent. And for the council to enforce.

Bluebellwood129 · 17/04/2025 08:43

Have you checked the current number of licenses? If some owners have sold up recently, they may be below the 10% figure.

JohnofWessex · 17/04/2025 08:45

I might give The Council a call to let them know whats planned