Is this enough calories to keep a human alive?

[Glokkey]

is this enough calories to keep a human alive?

2 cheese and onion rolls (look Ike sausage rolls)
5 scotch eggs
bombay mix
magnum

one sausage in a roll
coleslaw
wedges

Forgot to add. I’m very sorry for your losses
Remember to look after yourself too

Way way too many calories in my opinion, I think it would be practically impossible for anyone to loose weight on a diet like that unless there was something wrong with them

If I ate that much every day I would end up looking like the Michelin Man in no time at all

Its also very unhealthy looking

You sound a lovely and caring daughter OP. If you can get your DM to see her GP for some tests that would be very helpful. That way they can find out if there’s anything more than a reaction to bereavement.

In severe stress situations and bereavement, I feel like I can’t swallow and have zero appetite. Every mouthful feels like I’m going to be sick. For months after my DM died. all I could stomach was bananas and toast. I lost 2 stones. Same after my divorce.

until you can hopefully get some idea as to any possible physical illnesses, I’d go with the advice of little and often of whatever she will/can face. If she’s losing weight then calories in is the main focus. Better a fish finger butty than a bowl of chopped fruit if it comes down to one or the other. Try boost the calories what she will eat - butter and cream in mashed potato, full fat custard or ice cream with puddings, full fat milk in drinks etc. if she will take a multivitamin that would be helpful.

I really hope things improve OP. You must be exhausted, worried and worn out with all this.

Way way too many calories in my opinion, I think it would be practically impossible for anyone to loose weight on a diet like that unless there was something wrong with them

Yes and no, in my experience. I’ve lost weight on an adequate amount of calories during times of huge stress and/or bereavement. Normally losing weight is hard for me, but depression and severe stress will really get the weight off me pretty fast. OPs DM definitely need checking out for possible physical issues though.

Maybe instead of your rush to @Hastentoadd, you should take the time to read the thread, and the room, before adding. Take your competitive undereating nonsense elsewhere.

Maybe read read the thread before you spout nonsense, huh?

Crumble is a good idea. I would go for small portions so she isn’t over faced of her favourite stuff, think comfort food little and often
Sometimes you don’t want food but if something small and tasty looking appears then even if she just picks at it it’ll help stimulate appetite a bit
It’s crazy how much weight can drop quickly, I lost about 17lbs in 10 days from food poisoning

Setting aside the food issues @Glokkey, what strikes me most about your mum and the situation is "that you have moved her in". She's 66 and I think you said she usually works but is signed off.

Aside from the bereavements which are very sad, what else is going on that your mother can no longer live independently and has had to be moved in. What has happened to her home and her job and/or her general independence. It may be the loss of her home and independence is as much at play here as anything else.

66 is not old, it's a year older than me and I cannot imagine any circumstances, providing I had capacity, where I would allow my daughter to move me in and take over control of my diet.

I appreciate that if your mother is particularly vulnerable that you are doing a wonderful thing but I see the loss of her home and independence to be as profound as the loss of a parent, presumably approaching 90, and of course her sister who would have been far younger and to whom she was presumably very close.

I am sorry for your own loss, of your grandfather and your aunt.

It’s not ideal my mum has lost her independence but in my view moving her her in was the only thing to do. It won’t be forever. I see this as riding out the storm.

She was not eating for days. She would have ended up in the hospital. I have my own family and can’t keep driving the 30 miles to go see her and make sure she drinks/eats.

Ffs @Hastentoadd
I will never understand why people like you comment on a thread without reading beyond the 1st post or, at the very least, all the OP's posts.
Such an idiotic and unhelpful comment.

You can't estimate that without portion sizes/weights/ingredients/cooking methods

She wants child-ish comfort food, I can understand it. Nothing challenging. I think previous posters’ ideas of cutting things up for her and presenting it so it’s as easy as possible to snack on is good, even if there’s some waste. And calorific things like mayo - scotch eggs dipped in mayo is suddenly double the calories. Peanut butter, cheese… I find that toast is always comforting and always hits the spot, even with no appetite. Croissant is a great idea. Obviously she’s lacking in fibre and fruit and veg, but it’s not forever. Carbs and protein fuel growth. And will help her feel better. If it doesn’t stop, the rapid weightloss, perhaps she does need to be checked for anything underlying or that the meds are actually helping rather than hurting? This sounds very stressful for you - you’re doing amazingly taking care of everyone, don’t feel bad! It’s tough times, you’re not aiming for perfection x

@Hastentoadd
Are you for real? Did you not even read past tge first post? Op it trying to keep her mother alive who is only eating those type of meals. Also, for future reference, it's "lose weight" not "loose weight".

FWIW, I was only 60 when I lost my husband. I wish to God I'd had a daughter to care for me the way that you're caring for your mum.

It is only temporary, but such a bereavement (and your mother has obviously suffered two) absolutely poleaxes you.

When my grandmother died, my grandfather didn't have to move in with any of his family but his brother lived with him and my mother and my uncle both lived in the same town. As you rightly point out a 30 mile distance makes it impossible.

You're doing a marvellous job.

Nuts -Almonds especially contain good fats. Might she eat those? Leave around in bowl?

She came here for exactly that and listed the foods eaten - no idea why you feel the need to be pedantic.

I nursed my Mum for a year and she was managing a few sips on bottles of liquid nutrition on prescription for a couple of months of that. Probably 200 calories a day max. Not even as much as a baby eats. Eating a Magnum was a literal dream.

Water is the priority, but humans can survive on very little food in times of crisis.

Actually, OP @Glokkey if you're worried about nutrition and DMum will drink milkshake type drinks, ask the docs if she can get some Fortisips on prescription. You can buy them in chemists but they are really quite expensive. They have quite a lot of calories and nutrition in for patients who are struggling to eat.x.

i don’t think it’s about how old OPs DM is regarding her moving in. It’s about circumstances and need. When my DM was being treated for throat cancer, she was in her 50s. I lived 5 mins away and my DC had just started school . I hadn’t gone back to work yet, so I spent most of each day, making high calorie foods and serving them in tiny amounts and encouraging her to eat as much as she could and trying to keep her spirits up and keeping her company. She was thin before she was ill and like OPs DM would have been in hospital if I’d not been able to try get as much food into her as possible

If I’d have been 30 miles away, I’d have done what OP has done, and asked her to stay with me. My DF didn’t have the necessary personality to encourage her with kindness and chat away to keep her distracted while she forced something down, and my DBs are overseas. It was the most worrying and exhausting time but we got through it and she had over a decade of independent life after treatment.

Could you get more healthy things into your mum by disguise? perhaps soup with lots of veggies in it or maybe if she likes cheese macaroni or cauliflower cheese. if you else fails some good creamy milkshakes with fruit blended in or something like build up.
it is clear your mum is grieving and probably depressed it might be worth a chat with the GP

Not sure if someone has suggested but full fat coke if getting calories in is the aim. (Used when a relative was recovering from cancer)

It’s plenty of calories, assuming you don’t run a marathon a week, just not remotely nutritious.

It is enough calories to keep someone alive but it is mostly junk calories. Someone living off that long term will likely develop serious health issues over time.

OP try nursery food. Little egg mayo sandwiches, cocktail sausages. hot chocolate made with cream (my mum's care home trick). Little quiches.....
My parents enjoyed Spam sandwiches, goodness knows why but they did.

Have you had her general health checked out with blood tests etc to be sure there's no underlying serious problem causing her weight loss? If so, and it's clear, try and make healthier but higher calorie versions of the stuff she likes. It's like trying to feed a picky toddler. For a while one of my children lived on cheesecake, but instead of the cheap frozen stuff, I made my own with real cream, cream cheese, vanilla essence and stewed fruit topping. Try and sneak cream and butter in anywhere you can.

My mother stopped eating when here husband died - she would just pick at food and lost weight dramatically - she gave up

My mum lived well into her 90s and had a dreadful diet mostly. Your mum’s diet is not a healthy one but perhaps try to gradually introduce some healthier stuff - a few peanuts? Fruit?
Bless her.