To report this as benefit fraud

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A relative is claiming benefits, can’t work due to health but is one of those who is always complaining about something wrong with her but is always able to do the things she wants to do. Can holiday abroad, always down the gym, etc. When she was working she was always making complaints against employers- one of life’s victims.

She sold a property a couple of years ago and has squirrelled about £40k away through investments. I think has got her mother to do this for her.

I’m so fed up of seeing people like her take the piss. I 100% support a welfare system and it really pisses me off to see it abused like this. And meanwhile we are working our arses off and not able to afford the foreign travel and gym memberships.

I’m so tempted to report her secret savings to DWP.

LMAO at you as the voice of “wealthy people.”

The OP has already pointed out how unfair it is FOR HER.

you seems to keep forgetting that not all benefits are means tested.

If I had worked and bought a property, sold it for whatever reason and then became unable to work I would be pretty disappointed to lose all my savings. I'm not saying I would commit fraud, I certainly wouldn't, but I wonder if people have a bit more sympathy for 'hidden savings' fraud than hidden earnings or fraudulent claims?

Don’t let facts get in the way of stupidity.

Exactly, you would have to wonder.

Especially the ones who have become very riled up by the topic

They have the power to do it when they start their investigations. And they use those powers. There is no 'innocent until proven guilty' here. So you had better be 'I have seen the bank statements and have recorded statements from the person and the mother' level certainty before you embark on this.

It has happened to friends of mine. Who were 100% genuine claimants and were found to be so. They went through almost a year of absolute hell. On your conscience be it - if you have one.

Except some benefits are not means tested, a fact which seems to have escaped some people.

I think you are being silly.
The Tory’s are all rich as fuck and they would stamp all over welfare if they could.
The ones who really feel it are the ‘squeezed middle’.

Well, yes. But you can work and claim too. There is permitted work with ESA, and work allowance with UC.
But someone can be on benefits and very frugal, and manage to have the nicer things too. Or someone else buys them. I am off on holiday next month. My mum is paying for it. From the outside, it looks like I am taking the piss. I really am not.

You're tripping if you think it doesn't impact on the tax payer.

It also impacts on people who should be getting those benefits but aren't because of the cuts being made.

YANBU OP. MN seems full of posters defending those rinsing the system. Benefits are there to help those in need, not to provide a never ending lifestyle for those who can't be arsed. One has to wonder why those defend the benefit cheats..

Who mentioned politics?????? I have no idea why you’ve just posted that! Bizarre!

Are you ever going to explain your ableist comments?

What’s the squeezed middle got to do with this?

If you want to talk about stupidity, we could scroll on back to where I said she is claiming UC and the multiple, multiple posts from subsequent people going on and on and on about non means tested benefits.

I can comment on whatever subject / topic on MN that I like, anyone can

Why are you so upset by this topic?

The pp said I wouldn’t be bothered by the fraud and spending if I was wealthy. i was responding to that post.

How dare you accuse me of being an ableist, I am far from it

You also said she might be claiming pip…which is not means tested.

Aaaaannd another post about benefits
Concentrate on your own life and keep your nose out of others

Totally agree, @Happyspendingthedayinthegarden
Nobody likes being a snitch, but there are times when it's definitely appropriate. Those posters telling the OP to mind their own business, would they be happy for someone to nick their garden furniture (or any other of their personal possessions) and the person witnessing the theft not to report it to the police?
If I saw someone pickpocketing someone or someone nicking £60 worth of stuff from John Lewis, I'd definitely report them.
Benefit fraud looks like a victimless crime but it isn't. It costs our country millions every year which could be spent for you on maternity services, schools and prisons.

PIP isn’t means tested. You have no idea if she claims due to hidden disabilities that are none of your business.

Read your own posts! Stunning ableism.

Ffs she’s on UC.

I am a "genuine" claimant, and get riled up because we all get tarred with the same knackered looking brush.
"Oh, you went to Costa, so you obviously don't have health issues so get a fucking job".

So NOT PIP? It’s just that with you mentioning PIP it made everyone think of PIP.