To report this as benefit fraud

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A relative is claiming benefits, can’t work due to health but is one of those who is always complaining about something wrong with her but is always able to do the things she wants to do. Can holiday abroad, always down the gym, etc. When she was working she was always making complaints against employers- one of life’s victims.

She sold a property a couple of years ago and has squirrelled about £40k away through investments. I think has got her mother to do this for her.

I’m so fed up of seeing people like her take the piss. I 100% support a welfare system and it really pisses me off to see it abused like this. And meanwhile we are working our arses off and not able to afford the foreign travel and gym memberships.

I’m so tempted to report her secret savings to DWP.

You are just speculating. So just stay out of it and focus on your own life.

Comments like that are yet again part of the overall problem, so someone who suspects benefit fraud should just ‘stay out of it’ and let them possibly get away with it……With attitudes like that no wonder so many people are getting away with it……ridiculous mentality 🤷‍♂️

Why are you so in favour of encouraging people to ignore possible fraud? What have you to gain from that behaviour?

Not read the whole thread so sorry if this has already been said.
There is millions - MILLIONS - of pounds of unclaimed benefits yearly in the city I live in - it all goes back to the govt: and that’s just one city (albeit quite big). Fine we can’t all diddle the system, but leave people to their own devices - if they get caught it’s their problem: ignore them - live your own life.

Yet again another person who agrees with ignoring benefit fraud, it’s no wonder the country is in the state that it is in ……too many people taking when they could be contributing….with attitudes like this you can hardly be surprised the country is in a s..t state,
So many people not working for no reason when they could actually be contributing and yet it’s often people with attitudes similar to yours that sit around complaining about the state the country is in…..astounding🤷‍♂️🤷

Ignoring benefit fraud is contributing to the overall problem….can you not see this?

I would.
Bloody hate freeloaders.

Same, can stand them, they are a complete drain on society
And no, before anyone comes for me, I’m most definitely NOT referring to genuine claimants who are deserving of it

No, never okay to do that. Why do you want to be the Stasi? Cos there's no other reason to think like that. If you're determined, please can you sort out Amazon paying taxes, then after that we can chat. Thanks

Can you explain you are so in favour of people not reporting possible benefit fraud, what have you got to gain from this kind of behaviour / mentality?

So you think people who report possible benefit fraud are ‘Stasi’ but actual benefit fraudsters are fine…..your attitude is just mind boggling 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

I didn’t say ignore benefit fraud - I said ignore her. She doesn’t know for sure there’s fraud ? No one knows the full ins and outs of other people’s lives - and seriously, would you want that life ?
And the unclaimed benefit that goes back to the govt ?? You ignoring that? Because I can assure you when I say millions - that’s from
hospital patients alone, in one Scottish city.

ALL suspect benefit fraud should be reported, Ignoring possible benefit fraud is contributing to the state the country is in at the moment

All of these little actions contribute to a better function country which is to everyone’s benefit, Ignoring / condoning benefit fraud is contributing to a whole host of other issues that have a knock on effect on everyone.

Why should spongers be allowed to get away with it, and again I’m most certainly not referring to genuine benefit claimants who are deserving it

If you suspect benefit fraud you should report it, you don’t need to be 100% sure of the facts as there would be no reporting of any suspect fraud if that was the case,

As I said previously there would be an investigation and it would then be determined whether the claimant was deserving or not

And the millions unclaimed ?

So people still don’t understand that disability benefits are not means tested and that you need medical evidence to claim? So the fact someone goes to the gym and has savings is no basis to claim fraud whatsoever.

The post isn’t about the people who don’t claim benefits that they are entitled to it’s about the people who fraudulently claim benefits that they are not entitled to, don’t try to deviate

There’s nothing in my posts saying I agree with benefit fraud. I don’t sit around complaining about the state of the country.

Well maybe welfare reform will help to weed out lazy scroungers. But I don't hold out that much hope.

It's always a good time to make yourself feel better by makng someone else feel worse isn't it OP? Fill your boots. Why not post your assumptions on your local Facebook page so that everyone can join in?

You frankly have zero proof of any fraud, you don't even know the basic facts and have made wild and ablest assumptions. You go in wasting time like this they will laugh at you.

Why do you think you know the ins and outs of her finances? (unless you are appointed to run her bank accounts its utterly impossible for you to know that)

You don't even factually know what she claims?

You 'think' she is faking because she doesn't appear 'disabled enough' in your personal opinion?

Its all just mind blowingly cocky ignorance and you haven't been able to back up a single claim.

You are angry and jealous that you work and you 'think' other people get it easy but disability is not easy and its the only minority anyone can join. Maybe one day you'll have the misfortune of understanding.

The fraud issue is claiming UC whilst having hidden savings.
Whether she claims or is eligible to claim PIP is irrelevant. I don’t know if she does. Having savings wouldn’t affect the at claim so it doesn’t matter. You’ve totally misinterpreted this thread. Quite possibly on purpose.

Sorry, are you saying that we should support benefit fraud so we don’t make people feel bad?

I’m not sure if all these people who are getting cross assuming I’m accusing her of claiming disability fraudulently are being purposefully misleading or just haven’t read or understood the thread.

There seems to be an awful lot of that way of thinking / mindset about,
Certain people for what ever reason trying to guilt people into not reporting, you would really have to wonder what their motives for this were

No what you post show is you do not KNOW these things.#

How do you know she has hidden money, How do you know shes on UC but not the other benefits etc... You don't KNOW any of it.

You are misinterpreting what everyone is telling you. You have convinced yourself of wild assumptions you have no possibility of knowing. Stop stating 'facts' of info you don't have access too.

It’s eye opening!

I know she’s on UC and I know 100% about the hidden savings.
I don’t know if she’s on any sort of disability payment, and it’s irrelevant as it’s not the issue at hand. You are making it the issue, but whether she does or doesn’t get pip makes no difference to the initial concern that she is claiming UC fraudulently.