The US ultra-right should leave the UK alone!!!

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I was going to use a rude expletive in the thread title to truly reflect my thoughts on this. I've known about this insidious creeping influence for a little while but reading the article in the link below has made me livid. We are not going to be censored by foreign actors who understand nothing about our culture. I have often observed a false sense of familiarity among Brits regarding American culture but it goes both ways, and this attempt at dragging us along into the dark pit of ignorance should stay the fuck away from here:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/14/librarians-in-uk-increasingly-asked-to-remove-books-as-influence-of-us-pressure-groups-spreads

Why are you still using a misogynistic slur when you've already been told that it is a misogynistic slur?

You know that your language is against the talk guidelines, right?

The only reason I haven't reported your posts so far is because I think it's helpful for people to see the kind of nonsense we are up against.

Also worth highlighting what the White House is mulling over, so very predictable: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/trump-birthrate-proposals.html

Ladies, the populist right is not our friend.
What is this leading to? Pushing women out of the workplace, chaining them to the sink, making them dependent on their husbands (husbands, because I bet you the next thing will be making cohabitation out of wedlock illegal). I am saying all that as someone who had kids young and really had to fight to build my own career whilst being a mother. What was already hard will be impossible under such patriarchal 'regimes'.

I think a lot of GC feminists are willing to accept support from whoever they can, even men with highly problematic views on women and men pushing legislation that harms women.

There was a thread recently on women praising men for showing support in the recent debate on trans people and single sex spaces.

Some of the men being praised were…. “interesting” to say the least.

Sadly the article is paywalled but the focus on women alone is weird.

Here's an AI-generated summary for those who can't read behind the paywall (+ my comments):
The Trump administration is exploring strategies to encourage marriage and increase birth rates through several proposed policies.
Proposals for Increasing Birth Rates
• Award for moms with 6 or more children (a 'National Medal of Motherhood' - if that doesn't sound a bit Dear Leader like I don't know what is)
• $5,000 cash bonus for mothers after childbirth. (we know the annual cost of raising a child is multiples of that in the US, it's almost insulting to US mums)
• Tax credits for married couples with children (this could be OK, but as always devil's in the details)
• Funding for menstrual cycle education to enhance understanding of fertility. (Blessed be the fruit!)
• Scholarship Reservations (OK, that would have been nice as a young mum in full time education, but again, who is eligible will be crucial)
• Proposal to reserve 30% of Fulbright scholarships for married applicants or those with children (could end up favouring young married males)
Administration’s Focus
• Promoting family-centric policies as a cultural agenda.
• Emphasis on traditional family structures in policy discussions. (Patriarchy 101)
• White House preparing a report to enhance access to in vitro fertilization (IVF). (all well and good except that the cost of living keeps going up...)

^^ This is a window into our future here if we let the MUKGA types take over.

Why do none of these start with them asking women (and men) why they are not having children and building policy around that?

Exactly - that's populism for you.

Surely the better question is why are so-called liberal so-called feminists in the USA wasting so much energy on male "women" when the state of affairs for actual women in their country is so awful?

It's not a coincidence that gender ideology has come from a country where feminism has failed.

Either way, not our circus, not our monkeys.

You could also see it on this thread actually.

It will be with Farage in Number 10.

It doesn’t seem like liberal feminists in the US are focusing on trans issues?

They seem to be arguing that the over focus on trans women is a distraction (for example pointing out that while some people are obsessing over trans women in sports, maternal death rates are spiking as a consequence of abortion laws.)

When somebody highlighted Jordan Peterson as a friend of women I almost died.

Yes, that is exactly the case @JHound.

No words.

The truth is that women don't have a lot of friends.

That doesn't make progressive misogyny better than traditional misogyny.

They don't believe we need a word for female people.

And then they wonder why female people in their country lack basic rights.

It really is a mystery.

Just seems like they want to prioritise.

Surely you could put aside your beef with Dem-voting US mums and band together for the sake of all of us - right?
No misogyny is good. I would argue that fighting the one that is in power in the US and trying to influence our country so that they're also in power here come 2029 is the priority.

But not prioritise actual female people.

Band together with people who don't think we need a word for female people?

Who call JK Rowling a bigot because they haven't got a Scooby Fucking Doo about anything that happens outside their borders and get all their world news from BuzzFeed? Why?

Here in the UK, feminists are getting on with actual feminism, without any help from pretend feminists across the pond.

So with your reasoning, you'd rather have a backwards patriarchal regime in power?

I don't live in the US or have the right to vote there, so what I would rather have is besides the point. I'm more interested in who is in power in the countries I live and have the right to vote in.

But that has been my point from the beginning: we don't live in a silo- the UK is very much in the ideological line of fire of the MAGA galaxy. You may not believe me but it's a fact. You should care about what is going on there because the same people want us to fall for the same lies here in the UK. They will package it differently of course. It'll come with massive Union flags instead of Stars & Stripes. No one is telling you to be a different kind of feminist, but you should not dismiss the threat just because it happens to be from the US and you don't think that British women could possibly be influenced to vote against their own interests. It will be stealthy, that's the point. Keep your eyes out for it is all I'm saying.

But the democrats are also anti-woman.

No, I don't believe you, and no, it isn't a fact.

By way of evidence you named a loony fringe group which has less than 100 likes in Facebook, no apparent social media activity and an almost non existent membership.

Sorry if I'm not quaking in my boots, I'm rather preoccupied with the violent men currently protesting against women's rights in the UK, who are British and left wing.