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One day old baby in pub

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Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:27

So family member gave birth to first baby yesterday afternoon, she's a very young mum only 17 , normal delivery but episiotomy, baby good weight healthy. Was discharged home today and a couple of hours later was at the local pub not drinking alcohol just showing baby off and eating a meal , but am I right in thinking a day old baby baby is really too young to be in a pub or anywhere really , also worried she should be resting as obviously will be sore. Other family members have said I'm being old fashioned am I.

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SouthLondonMum22 · 12/04/2025 23:45

SwingTheMonkey · 12/04/2025 23:17

Urgh. What if that postpartum woman didn’t want to spend a few weeks resting and being looked after?!

Exactly.

No thanks.

JustAnotherManicMomday · 12/04/2025 23:48

YABU. When I had my second I left the hospital at mid day by 1pm I had been home, picked up the pram, dropped my eldest at nursery and was in argos where I worked at the time, buying a parasol. It was only later that I realised we already had one but I was on auto pilot after no sleep. If she feels up to it then good for her.

Unwelcoming · 13/04/2025 00:17

SwingTheMonkey · 12/04/2025 21:18

I’m really struggling to understand your posts tbh. Are you in the pub?!

Not with a newborn though 😝

Unwelcoming · 13/04/2025 00:21

SwingTheMonkey · 12/04/2025 21:15

No idea what Sonia Fowler has to do with anything. How bizarre.

It absolutely is to do with her. We aren’t simply vessels for producing offspring.
I wasn’t interested in ‘showing off’ anything. Just getting back to normal life. My babies were perfectly fine accompanying me. I never felt the need to convalesce.

Sense of humour? @ Sonia fowler 🤷🏼‍♀️

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2025 06:52

Unwelcoming · 13/04/2025 00:21

Sense of humour? @ Sonia fowler 🤷🏼‍♀️

I have a sense of humour. I still don’t have any idea what on earth you’re on about.

ChronicallyOnLime · 13/04/2025 06:56

What has her being 17 got to do with it? Or is that bit of information just a feeder for judgement? ‘Teen girl takes newborn to pub, terrible mother’

No. Babies aren’t puppies, they don’t need to be kept in until vaccinated. If mum felt up to it, baby is healthy and she wasn’t drinking.. what is the actual problem? You just sound judgemental.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 07:18

CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 19:30

@SmallmerciesExactly why do I disgust you? I don’t think I’ve ever disgusted anyone before!

By ... clutches pearls harder ... taking your precious baby outside!! To be germed all over by little old ladies!!!

UrinalCake · 13/04/2025 07:53

This thread should go in Classics.

Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 07:58

SwingTheMonkey · 12/04/2025 21:15

No idea what Sonia Fowler has to do with anything. How bizarre.

It absolutely is to do with her. We aren’t simply vessels for producing offspring.
I wasn’t interested in ‘showing off’ anything. Just getting back to normal life. My babies were perfectly fine accompanying me. I never felt the need to convalesce.

@Unwelcoming

this! Do you really think women don’t matter anymore once they’ve had children? That they cease to exist as a person in their own right and are not just a vessel for babies. Very misogynistic of you.

Singaporeannoodle · 13/04/2025 08:09

Fontofallknowledge23 · 12/04/2025 23:15

To be fair this probably boils down to the simple fact a child gave birth to a child. If I’d had a baby at 17 I’d have done exactly the same. I would have wanted to make a point to myself ( and the world) that I was still the same person and this baby wasn’t going to change anything. I just hope this young mother has plenty of support around her. My cousin had a baby at 18 and was blessed to have a lot of support. It changes everything. All these comments from much older mothers about going for a meal at the pub with their husbands really aren’t getting it. I just wish this young mother well and OP too who is showing some concern in the circumstances.

Hardly a child at 17, loads of people have children at that age or even younger myself I had my first at 16 and wouldn't of had the energy for this after Day one. Pretty sure the op herself said she became a mum at 16 and obviously doesn't even approve of it hence this thread

Whether it even matters depends on the pub a large airy one that's not busy isn't going to be a problem it's not like she could of been sat there getting drunk seeing as she is 17. My local pub is always crowded with old men coughing and spluttering everywhere so that would be a different kettle of fish. Last time I went in there I caught a vomiting and diarrhea virus

ChocolateAddictAlways · 13/04/2025 10:00

SwingTheMonkey · 12/04/2025 23:17

Urgh. What if that postpartum woman didn’t want to spend a few weeks resting and being looked after?!

Then she doesn’t need to stay at home.

I did say it was just my preference/view and ended it with ‘to each their own’.

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 13/04/2025 10:11

Unwelcoming · 12/04/2025 19:16

If family friends want to see the baby have the decency to go their house not get the mum galavanting to meet up at a location. To be honest after giving birth depending how traumatic you just want to rest and not be putting up a front hosting and entertaining guests... Yes immediate family can visit who are actually there for you caring for you sorting out meals etc house, your best friend yes but the whole community.... Going to the pub because they have chairsssss are you serious.. Regardless if she's drinking or not it's the principle. Catching something in the hospital is a risk that you don't have a choice about but taking your trophy to the pub is. Apologies I just feel like it's so wrong on many levels. Maybe I'm old fashioned I don't know your have to remember my comment is on a day 1 baby!!!

Like I would get and understand if you had older children and needed to pop into asda get a few food essentials for the kids etc but that's completely different.

The mum galavating to meet up? Jesus wept.

Sadly for you we don't lie in the Handmaids's tale.
Luckily, no one cares about what you think and you dont get to dictate where other women go or how they should feel, you need to stop projecting what you may/would have wanted onto what other people want and who can visit who and under what circumstances. You didnt want to go anywhere and host- great, but the young mum did. And luckily, she didnt have to host anything, she could just relax and have fun and enjoy her baby with her family. Good for her.
Maybe deep inside you are a bit jealous that some people actually get to go out and have fun in their lives and live a little and do you had to follow rules set by whoever without questioning them? It's not too late to live a little. It's 2025, not 1825 anymore.

Unwelcoming · 13/04/2025 11:12

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 13/04/2025 10:11

The mum galavating to meet up? Jesus wept.

Sadly for you we don't lie in the Handmaids's tale.
Luckily, no one cares about what you think and you dont get to dictate where other women go or how they should feel, you need to stop projecting what you may/would have wanted onto what other people want and who can visit who and under what circumstances. You didnt want to go anywhere and host- great, but the young mum did. And luckily, she didnt have to host anything, she could just relax and have fun and enjoy her baby with her family. Good for her.
Maybe deep inside you are a bit jealous that some people actually get to go out and have fun in their lives and live a little and do you had to follow rules set by whoever without questioning them? It's not too late to live a little. It's 2025, not 1825 anymore.

Loool you're wrong jealouss of putting baby in harms way no thank you.... Oh I did have my family and friends come over, but a week later. They're considerate like that. They all brought a dish each too. Everyone's stories and circumstances are different e.g first child etc but everyone's priority is their baby. I highly doubt at discharge Mother said to the nurses I'm just going to stop off at the pub to get a meal-would have loved to see the nurse's immediate reaction.
Have you listened to your self.. This is mum living a little having fun? It's day oneeee

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 13/04/2025 11:34

Unwelcoming · 13/04/2025 11:12

Loool you're wrong jealouss of putting baby in harms way no thank you.... Oh I did have my family and friends come over, but a week later. They're considerate like that. They all brought a dish each too. Everyone's stories and circumstances are different e.g first child etc but everyone's priority is their baby. I highly doubt at discharge Mother said to the nurses I'm just going to stop off at the pub to get a meal-would have loved to see the nurse's immediate reaction.
Have you listened to your self.. This is mum living a little having fun? It's day oneeee

Exactly, everyones stories are different, so dont project your own desires and bigoted views onto others. And why would anyone care about a nurse's (who is just a person like any other) reaction? Why not ask a guy at the petrol station, her neighbour, a cab driver and a dog walker why we are at it.
Unless you have an actual NHS advice about what mothers allowed to do in Victorian times nowadays?
You need to look deep inside yourself and figure out why you are so jaded, bitter and judgemental towards other mothers.

doreeen · 13/04/2025 11:41

’putting the baby in harms way’ is absolutely ridiculous and why is a nurse going to care whether mums are stopping at the supermarket or to have a bite to eat in a pub or cafe on the way home or the next day. I’m sure they have seen and dealt with actual cases of neglect or abuse beyond ‘mum goes out for a meal with her newborn’

Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 12:00

Unwelcoming · 13/04/2025 11:12

Loool you're wrong jealouss of putting baby in harms way no thank you.... Oh I did have my family and friends come over, but a week later. They're considerate like that. They all brought a dish each too. Everyone's stories and circumstances are different e.g first child etc but everyone's priority is their baby. I highly doubt at discharge Mother said to the nurses I'm just going to stop off at the pub to get a meal-would have loved to see the nurse's immediate reaction.
Have you listened to your self.. This is mum living a little having fun? It's day oneeee

@Unwelcoming

the nurse would have been far happier to hear that, than “I’m going to go home and stay there for weeks not going out and not seeing anyone, just sit there me and my baby”. That would be ringing alarm bells for PND.

Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 12:06

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 13/04/2025 11:34

Exactly, everyones stories are different, so dont project your own desires and bigoted views onto others. And why would anyone care about a nurse's (who is just a person like any other) reaction? Why not ask a guy at the petrol station, her neighbour, a cab driver and a dog walker why we are at it.
Unless you have an actual NHS advice about what mothers allowed to do in Victorian times nowadays?
You need to look deep inside yourself and figure out why you are so jaded, bitter and judgemental towards other mothers.

I think it’s internalised misogyny @Unwelcoming

EdgyGreyUser · 13/04/2025 12:17

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2025 06:52

I have a sense of humour. I still don’t have any idea what on earth you’re on about.

Sonia from EastEnders, I think was aged 15 at the time, didn't know she was pregnant until she giving birth. Sonia must had married Martin Fowler, the father, if calling her Sonia Fowler.

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2025 12:48

EdgyGreyUser · 13/04/2025 12:17

Sonia from EastEnders, I think was aged 15 at the time, didn't know she was pregnant until she giving birth. Sonia must had married Martin Fowler, the father, if calling her Sonia Fowler.

Ah. A 25 year old ‘joke’ then.

Allseeingallknowing · 13/04/2025 13:38

Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 12:00

@Unwelcoming

the nurse would have been far happier to hear that, than “I’m going to go home and stay there for weeks not going out and not seeing anyone, just sit there me and my baby”. That would be ringing alarm bells for PND.

I don’t think anyone has suggested that new mums lock themselves away for weeks and isolate themselves, just that it’s a special time when baby is taken home, that I personally wouldn’t want to be slotted in with the weekly shop or visit to the pub, but that’s the way it was when I had mine. Obviously some regard it differently now.

DappledThings · 13/04/2025 13:42

I personally wouldn’t want to be slotted in with the weekly shop or visit to the pub, but that’s the way it was when I had mine. Obviously some regard it differently now.
The bit about how you felt personally fine. Why the need for the snark about that's how it was then and must be different now? Women have felt differently after birth and wanting to do different things for ever. It's not about then versus now.

Allseeingallknowing · 13/04/2025 13:49

DappledThings · 13/04/2025 13:42

I personally wouldn’t want to be slotted in with the weekly shop or visit to the pub, but that’s the way it was when I had mine. Obviously some regard it differently now.
The bit about how you felt personally fine. Why the need for the snark about that's how it was then and must be different now? Women have felt differently after birth and wanting to do different things for ever. It's not about then versus now.

Because that was how it was when I had mine, and things do change!

Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 13:50

Allseeingallknowing · 13/04/2025 13:49

Because that was how it was when I had mine, and things do change!

@Allseeingallknowing

changed for the better then! Sorry you had to go through that but pleased now that women and their mental health is prioritised more. For some women getting out and about and getting back to normality is key to their wellbeing.

Gogogo12345 · 13/04/2025 13:56

Allseeingallknowing · 13/04/2025 13:49

Because that was how it was when I had mine, and things do change!

It wasn't like that when I had mine and she's 33

Allseeingallknowing · 13/04/2025 14:01

Gogogo12345 · 13/04/2025 13:56

It wasn't like that when I had mine and she's 33

Mine is 59 and it was like that!