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To expect barman to know what a lemon and lime is.

317 replies

girlfriend44 · 09/04/2025 19:57

Couldn't believe it today. Had this drink loads with no problem.

Barman had no clue what a lemon and lime was. Gave up and ordered something else, a coffee instead.

OP posts:
DoYouReally · 09/04/2025 20:57

I wish he handed you a lemon and a lime!

If fairness to him, if you can't clearly articulate, I would like a lemonade with a dash of lime, maybe he isn't the problem.

Thursa · 09/04/2025 20:57

St Clemente’s was orange juice and bitter lemon back in my barmaid days.

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 09/04/2025 20:58

DappledThings · 09/04/2025 20:56

The three extra letters "ade" make a big difference between your clear request and OP's ambiguous one

Maybe, but surely if you knew what 'lemonade and lime' meant, you'd realise what they meant by 'lemon and lime'? Or perhaps not...

queenofthesuburbs · 09/04/2025 21:00

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 09/04/2025 20:49

Why wouldn't you say lemonade? Lemonade and lime, nobody could be confused by that.

If someone asked me for lemon and lime I'd have to check what they meant.

Because lemon and lime sort of rolls off the tongue.

x2boys · 09/04/2025 21:00

Latenightreader · 09/04/2025 20:07

I once had an argument with a barman who insisted that ginger ale and ginger beer were the same thing (I'd ordered a gin and ginger ale and got ginger beer). He refused to believe they were separate beverages, despite me showing him the words on the label (and yes the pub sold both). I don't think he could accept he had made a mistake...

I would have said lemonade and lime rather than lemon and lime, but I would have had a pretty good idea and checked before pouring.

Edited

Are they ,i always thought they were the same too.

PeskyRooks · 09/04/2025 21:01

Bramble25 · 09/04/2025 20:23

Ha-I know this drink, OP. Team lemon and lime! Maybe it’s regional? I was thinking the other day about how you do t hear much or cider and black, or guiness and black these days.

Or snakebite and black!

WilfredsPies · 09/04/2025 21:02

girlfriend44 · 09/04/2025 20:00

Yes that happened, but he still didn't get it as there was a queue I gave up.

A fully functioning adult didn’t understand that you wanted a lemonade with a dash of lime cordial? 🤨

Exactly what words did you use to explain it to him? Did you continue calling it lemon? Or did you actually say ‘lemonade’?

NorthernSpirit · 09/04/2025 21:03

girlfriend44 · 09/04/2025 20:12

It's lemonade with some lime cordial.
Served with some ice, it's a gorgeous drink on a warm day.🙄

I own, run a bar and am a trained cocktail mixologist.

I’ve never heard of this - so guessing it must be a regional thing?

Sparklepoet · 09/04/2025 21:04

@girlfriend44 I'm not sure I understand what happened. When you explained to the barman that you wanted lemonade with lime cordial in it, what was his response? You had clarified what "lemon and lime" meant, so I'm not sure how he didn't understand that?

CountryQueen · 09/04/2025 21:05

Very retro of you to ask for a lemon and lime 🤣

If you’d asked for half a lemonade with a dash of lime cordial I’m sure he’d have understood.

It is so obvious you stood there being huffy and weird and trying to make him feel stupid before flouncing off with a coffee. Bizarre behaviour

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 09/04/2025 21:06

NorthernSpirit · 09/04/2025 21:03

I own, run a bar and am a trained cocktail mixologist.

I’ve never heard of this - so guessing it must be a regional thing?

🤣 This says it all

BashfulClam · 09/04/2025 21:06

I’ve never heard it called a lemon and lime. Lemonade and lime I order quite often.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 09/04/2025 21:07

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 09/04/2025 20:58

Maybe, but surely if you knew what 'lemonade and lime' meant, you'd realise what they meant by 'lemon and lime'? Or perhaps not...

Because lemon and lemonade are two very different things and most bars would have both of them.

NorthernSpirit · 09/04/2025 21:09

The difference between ginger beer & ginger ale come are down to how they are made, their flavour, and their uses:

Ginger Beer is brewed and fermented. It has a richer, deeper flavour due to the fermentation process. It has a stronger, spicier, and more ginger flavour. It’s usually cloudy looking. Used a lot in cocktails because of its bold flavour.

Ginger Ale is a carbonated soft drink flavoured with ginger extract or syrup. It’s milder, sweeter, and lighter in taste, clear and less intense. Often drunk on its with a spirit.

Bluevelvetsofa · 09/04/2025 21:11

St Clement’s has always been orange juice and lemonade to me, but I expect bitter lemon would do and I a see the point. The last time I wanted one, I had to explain it.

Wildegeese · 09/04/2025 21:12

Is it possible he thought you meant lager and lime? That's the first thing that came into my head.

MinkyWales · 09/04/2025 21:12

I worked in pubs for years, and would have asked for clarification on "lemon and lime." Lemonade with a slice of lime? With a dash of lime cordial? My customers would have asked for lemonade with a dash of lime. The trend was towards the slightly more refreshing lime and soda, though. (Possibly because it was cheaper.)

redsquirrel07 · 09/04/2025 21:13

When I started working in a bar someone asked me for a lager and lime, so I served them a pint with a lime wedge in it. Safe to say he was not impressed 😂 maybe give the barman the benefit of the doubt that he just hadn't encountered it before

saltinesandcoffeecups · 09/04/2025 21:13

Sparklepoet · 09/04/2025 21:04

@girlfriend44 I'm not sure I understand what happened. When you explained to the barman that you wanted lemonade with lime cordial in it, what was his response? You had clarified what "lemon and lime" meant, so I'm not sure how he didn't understand that?

Well clearly the OP just said the same thing but slower and louder …. That always works, right?

🐌📢

CandidExpert · 09/04/2025 21:14

I'm completely surprised at bar people on here never having heard it before! I've often ordered a lemonade and lime over the past 30 years and have never had so much as a look of confusion!!

The issue is that she didn't call it a lemonade and lime.

She called it a lemon and lime. It's far more ambiguous than lemonade and lime.

It could be;

Lemonade and Lime Cordial
Lemonade and a slice of Lime
Bitter Lemon and Lime Cordial
Bitter Lemon and a slice of Lime
Sparkling or still water with a slice of Lemon and Lime
7up (brand name of a Lemon and Lime Pop)
A literal lemon and a lime (which my autistic parent genuinely would have handed her without so much as blinking!)

Lemonade and Lime Cordial are totally normal as a drink here in Lancashire too. It's obvious what you're asking for put like that. I've never heard of "a lemon and lime" and can understand why a bar person would need to get have some clarification.

Maybe, but surely if you knew what 'lemonade and lime' meant, you'd realise what they meant by 'lemon and lime'? Or perhaps not...

I really don't think so. There's a lot of room for error. Even with Lemonade and Lime, I'd ask "Lime Cordial or a Slice of Lime?" cos lets face it...what's "Coke and Lime", or "Lemonade and Orange"? Could be Coke with a slice of lime or orange squash and lemonade or fresh orange and lemonade.

My friend was a barmaid here in the North and was bemused on our London trip to be served half a lager and half a guinness in a pub near Tower Bridge when she asked for a Lager and Black! We laughed a lot but could see how the bar man guessed what she meant and arrived at the wrong conclusion.

People should just ask for exactly what they want.

LattewithAlmondCroissant · 09/04/2025 21:18

Maybe it’s a regional thing? I’m in my 30s and would have ordered lemon and lime in more ‘traditional’ pubs in the past - that was what it was known as where I grew up. I would probably just ask for lemonade with lime cordial now, as there are so many drinks options in bars these days! It’s a lovely refreshing drink though, so a shame you ended up with a coffee!

TheCurious0range · 09/04/2025 21:18

I'm surprised bars still carry lime cordial, I like soda and lime and used to have to really explain that I wanted actual limes not cordial but don't seem to have to anymore. I would've double checked you meant lemonade and lime and not bitter lemon and lime, I would more often hear people ask for lemonade and lime around here.

When I was young I worked in a fairly trendy restaurant and someone ordered a st Clements no one including the manager knew what it was , I did because I'd worked in a local pub with a regular who drank it all the time (orange juice and bitter lemon usually in the UK, OJ lemon juice and soda water in the US).

I also miss the heady days of lager tops, snakebite and black, Guinness and black (with that really artificial blackcurrant cordial in pubs) , my mum used to drink Pernod and black back in the day! I think it's probably because beer in pubs used to be pretty dire lager, so needed something added.

Squashedbanaynay · 09/04/2025 21:19

What is it? All I can hear is Chandler’s voice saying it in friends when they’re handing out Christmas presents.

Joey: and for Ross… Mr Sweet Tooth
Ross: you got me a cola drink?
Chandler: and… a lemon lime!!
Ross: well, this is too much. I should have got you another sweater.

Ohwtfnow · 09/04/2025 21:19

I remember lots of elderly customers ordering a st clements when I first worked behind a bar in the mid 90s. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone order one since the turn of the century. (Britvic orange and bitter lemon where I lived - quite nice).

MayaPinion · 09/04/2025 21:19

I worked in bars for years and have never heard a lemonade and lime called lemon and lime. Why didn’t you just explain it as a glass of lemonade with a splash of lime in it?