To expect barman to know what a lemon and lime is.

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Couldn't believe it today. Had this drink loads with no problem.

Barman had no clue what a lemon and lime was. Gave up and ordered something else, a coffee instead.

The only person I’ve ever heard talk about ‘lemon and lime’ was an ancient aunt - she’d be in her late 90s now if she was still alive. She came from a tiny village near the Scottish border and had an odd turn of phrase for quite a few things.

Just say ‘Can have a glass of lemonade, please, with a splash of lime cordial’

I mean, there are several of us pointing out to you that it’s your attitude to bar staff - calling them ignorant and using words like bar-keep - that is the real problem.

That your attacks on the apparent ineptitude of bar staff continue, mocking and rubbishing these people, and trying to make yourself look clever whilst also getting your facts wrong (lime juice instead of cordial / not being able to spell Guinness) just isn’t a particularly good look.

As many posts on this thread, some of my own included, have pointed out, most people who work in pubs and bars tend to be young and their training will have totalled about 10 minutes during their (usually unpaid) trial shift. They neither have training nor years experience (even of drinking usually, let alone serving). You might be justified getting slightly miffed at a landlord or a trained mixologist if they got these things wrong, but being mean to young kids working their first jobs is just a bad look.

Save your scorn for those that actually deserve it, and, if you must try to be clever when being mean, then at least also get you facts right yourself!

I've never heard it called "a lemon and lime" before, I would have been confused too and thought you meant Sprite or 7Up. Not sure why the explanation proved so difficult though.

Tbh if you called me 'bar keep' and took the superior tone you have here I'd be pretending to not know anything, if you're going to treat me like shit anyway I may as well have a bit of fun with it 😁

No it didn’t.

I save my scorn for people who read into a simple comment a) my attitude to bar staff (you don't know it, you just know that I think a barman/woman would know what a lemon and lime is and as it happens I have never met a barperson who does not) and b) that I can't spell because I spelled Guinness (typo) wrong and said lime juice instead of lime cordial.
Fwiw I think bar staff are exploited and often badly treated and should be properly unionised.

Do you know what it is?

I know someone who drinks lager and lemonade but calls it a "lager tops".

I just say ‘lime and lemonade’. Personally, I think that’s a better description 🤷‍♀️

A lager top is the standard name for a pint with a dash of lemonade in it. Some people call it a lager dash but mainly lager top.

You should raise a complaint with the barkeeper's guild and see if you can get him struck off .

It’s a basic English pub drink. How could he possibly not have known what it is.

Because it's actually lemonade and lime cordial, not lemon and lime. So he could quite easily not have known and until I read this thread I wasn't entirely sure either.

How hard is it to just call it exactly what it is? If I wanted an orange juice and lemonade that's exactly what I'd ask for. I'd not ask for an 'orange and lemon' and expect the bar staff to guess at what I meant by orange and lemon. Do I mean orange juice or orange squash? With a slice of lemon in it?

No. I mean an orange juice and lemonade, so that's what I ask for, because asking for anything vaguely similar but less specific will cause confusion.

No problem this week, different person on, knew what it was.

That's good but it doesn't negate how snooty and condescending you were because the first barman (and a lot of people on here) had no idea what a lemon and lime was.

Lemon and lime- what else is there to know?

I wouldn’t have know this
Lemon and lime- what else is there to know?
Do you you want fresh lemon and lime juice in a glass ? Do you want lime and lemon cordial?
Oh, you mean you want to be able to drink it. Ok lemon and lime with.......soda? Lemonade? No?
What is it you want?
Lemonade with lime! Ah OK. Lemonade with lime cordial, lime juice or with a slice of lime in it?
Just say what you want clearly. Not everyone has the same life expierence as you and different things mean differently to people.