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To think of myself as a girl at 50? [Light-hearted]

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 03:27

Well, I'm sorry, but I do. I don't think I've aged much at all - I don't look much different from when I was 28 I think, (🤭) and I looked girlish then. I'd rather be a girl, which has connotations of freedom and fun, than a woman, which has connotations of too much responsibility!

I think being called a girl is a big compliment. It means you look young. It's equivalent in the States to being called Miss instead of Ma'am. The dreaded ma'am!!!

This thread has been inspired by another thread where the OP says he's confused by a girl at work, who is 41. Some posters objected to any female over the age of 18 being called a girl.

Well, I'll still be identifying as a girl when I'm 80, probably!

Older celebrity women around my age who I think of as girls:
Kate Moss
Jennifer Aniston
Victoria Beckham

In my mind, the above and me are all still 28 but could pass for much younger. 😂😂😂

It's a good day when I'm referred to as a girl. 🤪 Also - and this is the most important part - even though my parents are dead and I'm post-menopausal, I FEEL like a girl!

So, AIBU??

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 17:56

cariadlet · 09/04/2025 17:44

I'm guessing that the last line is supposed to be a joke.

Some of us have negative connotations about the word girl (when used by adult women to describe themselves; not when referring to actual girls) just as your op had very negative connotations about the word woman. We're all dealing in broad stereotypes.

Personally, I don't give a fuck that I'm ageing. I'm lucky in that I wasn't pretty when I was young so don't have any lost looks to mourn. I genuinely don't give a toss about my wrinkles and grey hairs.

I feel much more confident as a middle aged woman than I ever did when I was young enough to plausibly call myself a girl.

It's not about looks. It's about a state of mind.

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Hillsaremyhappyplace · 09/04/2025 17:56

I don’t know why, but this gives me the creeps. It’s maybe the Miss Havisham vibes.
Also, it’s interesting OP that you see something being “so ageing” as an insult. I feel a bit sorry for you. Embrace womanhood, it’s great.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 17:58

henlake7 · 09/04/2025 17:40

Think of yourself however you like, who cares!?
Although I will say Ive never yet seen anybody who claimed to look decades younger and actually did! The best Ive seen is really well maintained versions of peoples actual age.😄

But i am a firm believer that your age shouldnt define your habits, looks or behaviour. If you want to skateboard at 60 or embroider at 12 then you do you!

It's not about what I actually look like though. I think I look 28 and that's all that counts!

There are lots of people who are over-confident and think they're miles better than they actually are in some way. Why shouldn't I be one of them? 🤣

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 17:59

Hillsaremyhappyplace · 09/04/2025 17:56

I don’t know why, but this gives me the creeps. It’s maybe the Miss Havisham vibes.
Also, it’s interesting OP that you see something being “so ageing” as an insult. I feel a bit sorry for you. Embrace womanhood, it’s great.

Edited

Awww, thank you for the sympathy!!

I am creepy. I have over 100 creepy dolls. Mwah-hah-haaaah!

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PinkArt · 09/04/2025 18:02

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 17:34

Odd, self-worth invested in looks and men, desperate, silly, not someone I would want to hang out with, silly, someone I'd give a wide swerve to, only women are capable of discussing politics and literature....wow, tough crowd!

May I suggest that some of you re-discover some youthful positivity? Negativity is so ageing.

What on earth is your issue with getting older? It's a fucking privilege to age, especially to reach old age. The negative people aren't the ones rejecting the title of their youth, it's you shitting on being middle aged! It is entirely possible, in fact it's incredibly easy, to enjoy this stage of life without having to infantalise yourself.
You don't feel or look 28, 50 just doesn't feel or look like you think it was going to feel.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 18:04

PinkArt · 09/04/2025 18:02

What on earth is your issue with getting older? It's a fucking privilege to age, especially to reach old age. The negative people aren't the ones rejecting the title of their youth, it's you shitting on being middle aged! It is entirely possible, in fact it's incredibly easy, to enjoy this stage of life without having to infantalise yourself.
You don't feel or look 28, 50 just doesn't feel or look like you think it was going to feel.

That's a very negative reading of me. I don't mind being 50 and am super-grateful to be alive, I just feel and look 28! (My mirror may be distorted but I love it! 🤣)

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PinkArt · 09/04/2025 18:12

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 18:04

That's a very negative reading of me. I don't mind being 50 and am super-grateful to be alive, I just feel and look 28! (My mirror may be distorted but I love it! 🤣)

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I think it's a quite accurate reading from everything you've written here. You're 50. Why not own that and embrace it. It's embarassing trying to cling on to your 20s as a middle aged women, instead of enjoying all that being older has added to your life.
I enjoyed my 20s when I was there, enjoyed my 30s more and am currently enjoying my 40s the most. I think I look decent enough for my age but am not trying to kid myself I look 32 years younger, nor would I want to. We've been there and done that, decades ago. Why not try enjoying the now.

tobee · 09/04/2025 18:14

There is truth in what you say @PinkArt. But I think we were expecting something different because, when we were girls, most older women seemed to dress differently to younger women. Probably partly because they were a generation that hadn't invented the teenager and went straight from schoolgirl to adult at about 16.

I'm 57, but when I was young, in the 70s and 80s, there were a lot of older women who were wearing shift frocks with maybe a floral pattern, sensible pastel cardy, sensible shoes and cauliflower perm hair which often wasn't dyed because that made you "fast" in that generation.

My primary school headmistress favoured pale coloured skirt suits, and matching sort sleeved knitted top. And twin sets. Lots of duck egg blue and oyster. I thought of her as to be respected, but incredibly ancient. But she was probably 5 years younger than me now! She definitely wasn't a girl! I, on the other hand, dress as a perpetual student in jeans and t shirt. I wouldn't say I was a girl though. Or only occasionally. 😀

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 18:16

PinkArt · 09/04/2025 18:12

I think it's a quite accurate reading from everything you've written here. You're 50. Why not own that and embrace it. It's embarassing trying to cling on to your 20s as a middle aged women, instead of enjoying all that being older has added to your life.
I enjoyed my 20s when I was there, enjoyed my 30s more and am currently enjoying my 40s the most. I think I look decent enough for my age but am not trying to kid myself I look 32 years younger, nor would I want to. We've been there and done that, decades ago. Why not try enjoying the now.

I DO enjoy the now and I refuse to grow up and grow old, so there!

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 18:21

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soupyspoon · 09/04/2025 18:29

5128gap · 09/04/2025 15:36

Its interesting and a bit sad that the word girl has such negative associations of silliness, being coqettish, coy, frivolous and so on. Its the word for our daughters and our young selves. If it conjures up for you visions of pink giggly fluff, wanting to attract male attention and light weight interests, then you need to check your stereotypes. It could just as easily mean feeling young, fit, vibrant, with possibilities and opportunities ahead.

Absolutely this, Im surprised so many dont understand that 'girl' isnt a negative, silly, fluffy thing (well maybe the chin hair in my case), so theres no 'embarrassment' about being a 'girl'.

People really do need to think about the negatively they're bringing into those stereotypes, very strange.

Growlybear83 · 09/04/2025 18:31

I’m in my late 60s but I don’t feel any different inside to how I felt when I was 15. I still like the same music, the same food, still have the same sense of humour, and still have the same views on life and politics. If you want to refer to yourself as a girl, good on you. It doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. I would be quite flattered if anyone called me a girl, or young lady.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 18:53

soupyspoon · 09/04/2025 18:29

Absolutely this, Im surprised so many dont understand that 'girl' isnt a negative, silly, fluffy thing (well maybe the chin hair in my case), so theres no 'embarrassment' about being a 'girl'.

People really do need to think about the negatively they're bringing into those stereotypes, very strange.

Very strange indeed.

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TankFlyBossW4lk · 09/04/2025 18:54

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 04:35

Let what go? The dream of eternal youth? Never! 😂

You do you, OP. I'm a good bit older than you and I'm still a girl. Our PT calls me and my nearing retirement age gym friend, Girlies 😂. We think this is hilarious.

bettydavieseyes · 09/04/2025 19:05

I dont mind girl or woman. People often act surprised I'm 45 and say I could pass for 30. I don't feel old but I do feel more mature than when I was in my 30's and I'm really enjoying my 40's actually! I won't mind turning 50 either. Weirdly-I hated turning 30 but that's the only time I've struggled with ageing. My wife is 53 and looks younger too. It's a good time of life for us, we got married last year. I went to college at 29 with teenagers and my best friend was 17 😂 we are still in touch now! I'm now doing my degree with the OU. I have girls age 21, 10 and 8. My 21yo loves hanging out with me and has suggested clubbing! I'm not sure..however my wife and I went to pink (lesbian club) in London last year and it was fun! The younger crowd were very accepting and we danced with a group of much younger girls for a while!

I think I'm with you OP...never get old and boring! Age is only a number!

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 19:06

TankFlyBossW4lk · 09/04/2025 18:54

You do you, OP. I'm a good bit older than you and I'm still a girl. Our PT calls me and my nearing retirement age gym friend, Girlies 😂. We think this is hilarious.

Love it!

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 19:07

bettydavieseyes · 09/04/2025 19:05

I dont mind girl or woman. People often act surprised I'm 45 and say I could pass for 30. I don't feel old but I do feel more mature than when I was in my 30's and I'm really enjoying my 40's actually! I won't mind turning 50 either. Weirdly-I hated turning 30 but that's the only time I've struggled with ageing. My wife is 53 and looks younger too. It's a good time of life for us, we got married last year. I went to college at 29 with teenagers and my best friend was 17 😂 we are still in touch now! I'm now doing my degree with the OU. I have girls age 21, 10 and 8. My 21yo loves hanging out with me and has suggested clubbing! I'm not sure..however my wife and I went to pink (lesbian club) in London last year and it was fun! The younger crowd were very accepting and we danced with a group of much younger girls for a while!

I think I'm with you OP...never get old and boring! Age is only a number!

Am loving this post! I might try Pink. Was it all women, or were men there too?

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Cynic17 · 09/04/2025 19:09

OP, you're not "a girl" (and neither am I).
You are a woman - why would you want to be anything else? Don't demean yourself, and the rest of your sex, by trying to be "girly", please.

bettydavieseyes · 09/04/2025 19:09

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 19:07

Am loving this post! I might try Pink. Was it all women, or were men there too?

All women! Sorry it wasn't called pink, I was thinking of an old club from years ago, it was Shebar!

Zoopet · 09/04/2025 19:10

I'm still in touch with 9 schoolfriends and when we meet up the years roll away and we're back to being giggly 16 year olds!
We've all passed the halfway mark of our 60s but none of us feel it!
Growing older is a privilege and sadly we lost one of our original 10 two years ago so it makes us enjoy our meet ups all the more.
We don't look into the mirror much because we are all 16 at heart!
I usually refer to the group as the school guys!

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 19:15

Cynic17 · 09/04/2025 19:09

OP, you're not "a girl" (and neither am I).
You are a woman - why would you want to be anything else? Don't demean yourself, and the rest of your sex, by trying to be "girly", please.

I never said I was girly!

But why is being girly demeaning, anyway?? I bet no one would ever say that the phrase "boyish charm" demeans men!

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SpookyMcTaggart · 09/04/2025 19:20

'Girl' just sounds silly to me if you're older than 25 or so. What's wrong with 'woman'? Would you refer to a man of 30 or 40 as a boy? How would you feel about a man over 30 calling himself a boy? I'd assume he was a bit immature and lacking in confidence. Same for women.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 19:32

SpookyMcTaggart · 09/04/2025 19:20

'Girl' just sounds silly to me if you're older than 25 or so. What's wrong with 'woman'? Would you refer to a man of 30 or 40 as a boy? How would you feel about a man over 30 calling himself a boy? I'd assume he was a bit immature and lacking in confidence. Same for women.

I am immature and lacking in confidence. So be it. Let it all hang out!

I'll add those two to the insult list from this post! 🤣

Negativity is v. ageing.

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Uricon2 · 09/04/2025 19:33

I'm in my 60s and quite sure I look like Grendel's granny ATM. There's nothing wrong with having a youthful spirit, referring to a group of female friends as "the girls" and similar.

The problem is that it can be used to patronise and undermine. A 90+ year old referring to me as a girl, no problem, I may be to them. However, the younger colleague I barely knew who called me a "good girl" was shown their backside.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 09/04/2025 19:34

Uricon2 · 09/04/2025 19:33

I'm in my 60s and quite sure I look like Grendel's granny ATM. There's nothing wrong with having a youthful spirit, referring to a group of female friends as "the girls" and similar.

The problem is that it can be used to patronise and undermine. A 90+ year old referring to me as a girl, no problem, I may be to them. However, the younger colleague I barely knew who called me a "good girl" was shown their backside.

Someone called you good girl at work? Oh hell, no. Even I have my limits. I hope you responded by telling them to go and do their homework. 🤬

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