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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 16:03

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 15:58

@Maitri108 Allison Pearson’s article refers to lawyers being astonished at the advice to plead guilty, the Spectator has written articles saying the same and there are a number of Substacks offering a similar legal opinion.

The Free Speech Union have been advised in a number of cases where people were badly advised to plead guilty.

Alison Pearson's article was a load of shit. She didn't name any 'astonished' lawyers she just said there were.

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 16:09

I’m sure you are aware of the convention that lawyers do not criticise judges publicly, hence the anonymity.

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 16:10

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 16:09

I’m sure you are aware of the convention that lawyers do not criticise judges publicly, hence the anonymity.

So no evidence whatsoever that legal minds are 'astonished'.

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 16:12

Well I doubt the Telegraph would allow a completely unsubstantiated claim into print.

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 16:14

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 16:12

Well I doubt the Telegraph would allow a completely unsubstantiated claim into print.

There's no evidence to back it up. I thought no one trusted the press anymore.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 16:31

ArtTheClown · 12/04/2025 15:17

She pled guilty to it.

She was extremely poorly advised if she pled guilty to the Category 1 charge specifically.

I know the Free Speech Union has been involving itself in more of these cases, and the outcomes are quite different with decent counsel.

Isn't it free speech that she says she is guilty? She was free to say not guilty but her freedom of speech let her say she did it. Is that not her freedom?

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:31

@whippy1981 of course it’s her choice to plead guilty or otherwise but the contention is that she was ill advised by the duty solicitor to do so.

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 17:37

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:31

@whippy1981 of course it’s her choice to plead guilty or otherwise but the contention is that she was ill advised by the duty solicitor to do so.

It was good advice given the evidence. She had an online history of racism, called for people to be murdered, thought it was funny that it caused a stir and said she'd use the mental health card.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 17:39

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:31

@whippy1981 of course it’s her choice to plead guilty or otherwise but the contention is that she was ill advised by the duty solicitor to do so.

You have a right to believe she was ill advised. Someone with legal knowledge in their role believes differently as they advised her differently.

Would you advise all those who commit a crime to plead not guilty?

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:46

@Maitri108 wss there evidence of her persistently “calling for people to be murdererd”? I haven’t seen this but happy to be corrected - obviously it is this that is central to the case. Racism is not illegal on its own.

I think everyone accepts that her tweet was beyond horrific but do you really not have a shred of sympathy for a mother who lost a child in horrendous circumstances and then loses their mind over news of children being stabbed and murdered? She had been diagnosed with PTSD so personally I think accusing her of playing the mental health card is deeply unfair.

What has her lengthy prison sentence achieved versus a suspended sentence or community order ? It is certainly grist to the mill for the far right, particularly in contrast to the sentences of a number of men for sex offences including paedophilia.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 17:47

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:31

@whippy1981 of course it’s her choice to plead guilty or otherwise but the contention is that she was ill advised by the duty solicitor to do so.

Have you placed a report for malpractice about this solicitor?

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 17:48

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:46

@Maitri108 wss there evidence of her persistently “calling for people to be murdererd”? I haven’t seen this but happy to be corrected - obviously it is this that is central to the case. Racism is not illegal on its own.

I think everyone accepts that her tweet was beyond horrific but do you really not have a shred of sympathy for a mother who lost a child in horrendous circumstances and then loses their mind over news of children being stabbed and murdered? She had been diagnosed with PTSD so personally I think accusing her of playing the mental health card is deeply unfair.

What has her lengthy prison sentence achieved versus a suspended sentence or community order ? It is certainly grist to the mill for the far right, particularly in contrast to the sentences of a number of men for sex offences including paedophilia.

She said herself she would play the mental health card. Those were her words not Maitri108's.

She lost her child due to issues in the NHS. Nothing to do with stabbings or other ethnicities. She made a choice. Her trauma does not make her do things like that.

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 17:55

AzurePanda · 12/04/2025 17:46

@Maitri108 wss there evidence of her persistently “calling for people to be murdererd”? I haven’t seen this but happy to be corrected - obviously it is this that is central to the case. Racism is not illegal on its own.

I think everyone accepts that her tweet was beyond horrific but do you really not have a shred of sympathy for a mother who lost a child in horrendous circumstances and then loses their mind over news of children being stabbed and murdered? She had been diagnosed with PTSD so personally I think accusing her of playing the mental health card is deeply unfair.

What has her lengthy prison sentence achieved versus a suspended sentence or community order ? It is certainly grist to the mill for the far right, particularly in contrast to the sentences of a number of men for sex offences including paedophilia.

I didn't say that she 'persistently' called for people to be murdered. Surely you've read her Tweet?

She had a reduced sentence due to her personal circumstances and the fact that she pled guilty, so it was taken into account. Her sentence wasn't lengthy, it was short for the crime she committed as explained above.

I didn't accuse her of playing the mental health card, she said that's what she'd do if arrested.

Hate crime is illegal.

Gloriia · 12/04/2025 18:01

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 17:37

It was good advice given the evidence. She had an online history of racism, called for people to be murdered, thought it was funny that it caused a stir and said she'd use the mental health card.

Honestly. Calling for people to be murdered?! It was a knee jerk nasty comment, deleted.

The overreaction to this crime is batshit.

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 18:05

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 17:48

She said herself she would play the mental health card. Those were her words not Maitri108's.

She lost her child due to issues in the NHS. Nothing to do with stabbings or other ethnicities. She made a choice. Her trauma does not make her do things like that.

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Who the hell are you to say how her trauma effects her? If you’ve never been in her shoes then you have no right to comment on that.

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 18:08

Gloriia · 12/04/2025 18:01

Honestly. Calling for people to be murdered?! It was a knee jerk nasty comment, deleted.

The overreaction to this crime is batshit.

She wrote a Tweet calling for occupied buildings to be set alight.

Walkden · 12/04/2025 18:13

"Who the hell are you to say how her trauma effects her? If you’ve never been in her shoes then you have no right to comment on that."

Quite right. No one else can possibly understand or comment on her trauma. On that basis we could excuse any criminal behaviour because of "trauma".

Seriously get a grip.

By your argument incels claim they suffer "trauma" from repeated sexual rejections. None of us have any right to comment because "we've never been in their shoes"

Gloriia · 12/04/2025 18:14

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 18:08

She wrote a Tweet calling for occupied buildings to be set alight.

Yes as I say, a knee jerk nasty comment that was then deleted. Ive seen loads of crap like this online. If we locked away all the keyboard warriors there'd be no space for the violent offenders with a history of violent offending unlike this poor woman who didn't have any previous at all

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 18:16

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 18:05

Who the hell are you to say how her trauma effects her? If you’ve never been in her shoes then you have no right to comment on that.

Trauma doesn't make her do that. If she can control her racism in public then it was a choice.

Trauma doesn't make you do that! It is an excuse. Oh I've suffered trauma BTW! My behaviour is my choice. If it can be controlled around all other people then it is a choice. She chose it.

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 18:30

Gloriia · 12/04/2025 18:14

Yes as I say, a knee jerk nasty comment that was then deleted. Ive seen loads of crap like this online. If we locked away all the keyboard warriors there'd be no space for the violent offenders with a history of violent offending unlike this poor woman who didn't have any previous at all

She's a 'poor woman' because you agree with her. Like Pearson you think she's a political prisoner.

She wrote the Tweet during a racist riot, it was viewed over 300k and people set light to occupied buildings. It's therefore in no way comparable to your average swivel eyed racist nonsense.

Many people managed not to write racist hate speech inciting violence during the riots. I can only imagine that those saying it's easily done don't have clean hands.

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 18:53

Walkden · 12/04/2025 18:13

"Who the hell are you to say how her trauma effects her? If you’ve never been in her shoes then you have no right to comment on that."

Quite right. No one else can possibly understand or comment on her trauma. On that basis we could excuse any criminal behaviour because of "trauma".

Seriously get a grip.

By your argument incels claim they suffer "trauma" from repeated sexual rejections. None of us have any right to comment because "we've never been in their shoes"

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are you seriously comparing incels to a woman who’s child died. How on earth can you compare the two? Not getting laid is a bit fucking different to your child dying.

Walkden · 12/04/2025 18:58

"Not getting laid is a bit fucking different to your child dying."

Who the hell are you to comment on their trauma? You've never been in their shoes.

At least be fucking consistent...

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 18:58

Walkden · 12/04/2025 18:58

"Not getting laid is a bit fucking different to your child dying."

Who the hell are you to comment on their trauma? You've never been in their shoes.

At least be fucking consistent...

You are actually revolting 🤮

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 18:59

Walkden · 12/04/2025 18:58

"Not getting laid is a bit fucking different to your child dying."

Who the hell are you to comment on their trauma? You've never been in their shoes.

At least be fucking consistent...

You’re not even making sense

Walkden · 12/04/2025 19:05

"You are actually revolting" says the person excusing a woman advocating for people to be burned alive due to "trauma".

The justice system routinely takes into account people "trauma" which was a mitigating factor in sentencing as set out in the judges comments.

Presumably this was possible even though the judge was not a mother who had lost a child.....

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