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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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TENSsion · 07/04/2025 19:37

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 19:36

The link wikepedia that you posted?

The photo I posted is from a news article about London.

Maybe it’s a common issue if it also happens in other countries 🤷🏻‍♀️

thanks for sharing

randomchap · 07/04/2025 19:43

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 19:36

The link wikepedia that you posted?

The photo I posted is from a news article about London.

Yes, and the link was about a demonstration in London, outside the Danish Embassy. Which I think the photo is from.

Could you link to the actual news article, rather than a low quality image of it?

randomchap · 07/04/2025 19:44

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 19:37

Maybe it’s a common issue if it also happens in other countries 🤷🏻‍♀️

thanks for sharing

Just to be clear, the link was about the demonstrations in London, outside the Danish Embassy.

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 20:38

randomchap · 07/04/2025 19:44

Just to be clear, the link was about the demonstrations in London, outside the Danish Embassy.

Do a google search. It was in London AND Denmark.
Those images come up as being from LONDON.
What about what happened to the teacher in Batley? Where are the prison sentences for the men who threatened his life to the extent he’s had to change his identity?

Why are you lying and pretending this doesn’t happen here?

Your denial is exactly what fuels the divide.

scorpiogirly · 07/04/2025 20:48

People shouldn't be put into prison for saying words.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 21:01

I guess children don't count. 🤬

The older I get, the more I see how badly treated children are by society.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 21:02

scorpiogirly · 07/04/2025 20:48

People shouldn't be put into prison for saying words.

It's an interesting debate. I don't know where the right to free speech ends and the need to curb hate speech begins.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 21:18

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 11:21

Incitement is a crime.

I appreciate that incitement is indeed a crime, but I'm not sure I agree with it. As the poster you replied to said, the responsibility should lie with the person who committed the crime, imo. After all, no one has to do something just because someone else suggests it, do they? That's what always occurs to me incitement laws.

Still, people are sheep and I suppose it's been proven that people do actually respond to incitement. It's the mob mentality. Maybe that's why it's a crime, despite the school-teacher vibes it gives of "Well, if little Sally told you to jump off a cliff, you wouldn't! So why did you let her lead you astray?" At least, when I was at school decades ago, there was an emphasis on not letting yourself be led by others and that we don't have to do what our peers want us to do. I have a feeling that incitement laws aren't that old, although I could be wrong. I just don't remember them every being talked about when I was young.

So by the same token, I was quite puzzled by a case in the States where a woman went to prison for encouraging her friend to kill himself. She was miles away at the time, and it was by text. I was really surprised that she was convicted of a crime, because it seems to me that he didn't have to do it just because she told him to.

randomchap · 07/04/2025 21:29

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 20:38

Do a google search. It was in London AND Denmark.
Those images come up as being from LONDON.
What about what happened to the teacher in Batley? Where are the prison sentences for the men who threatened his life to the extent he’s had to change his identity?

Why are you lying and pretending this doesn’t happen here?

Your denial is exactly what fuels the divide.

I've not lied at all.

You shared an image and asked whether the people in it got prison sentences. From that image I thought it looked like the protests outside the Danish Embassy in London. Some people at that protest were sentenced to several years in jail for their part in that protest

If you really wanted to know if the people in the image had been arrested, you could have shared the actual article, or looked them up. But no, you just wanted to post inflammatory Islamophobic bile.

So I'll ask again, would you share the actual article the image came from? Or do you just have the image and no real information?

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 07/04/2025 21:38

EasternStandard · 07/04/2025 18:08

Any recent examples of men doing prison time as the woman in the op for similar tweets?

I doubt the internet has been cleaned up since last year and they exist.

Tyler kay got 38 months.
Jordan Parlour 20 months.
Wayne O’Rourke 3 years
Christopher Taggart 32 month
Rhys McDonald 28 months.

There’s plenty more but I got bored.

BoredZelda · 07/04/2025 21:41

Wimbledonmum1985 · 06/04/2025 22:53

I read it too and was shocked. I had no sympathy for her but the article made me reconsider. There was a a lot I hadn’t known about the case, including the death of her child, her job as a childminder and the perspectives of the parents of her charges. I think she should be let out. She has paid a heavy price for a moment of madness.

You think the law shouldn’t apply to a bereaved parent who is a childminder?

EasternStandard · 07/04/2025 21:46

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 07/04/2025 21:38

Tyler kay got 38 months.
Jordan Parlour 20 months.
Wayne O’Rourke 3 years
Christopher Taggart 32 month
Rhys McDonald 28 months.

There’s plenty more but I got bored.

Are any of these for violent tweets against women?

All the links so far seem not to be. Why do women’s death threats go without mention or doing time. Particularly when society has such an issue with male violence against women and girls.

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 22:00

@ThisFluentBiscuit

Before the Rwanda genocide, state media continuously espoused hatred towards an ethnic group. They were cockroaches, thieves, not to be trusted, not quite human and so on.

This went on for quite some time. Then when the killing began, members of the government encouraged people to kill, maim and rape.

Neighbour turned against neighbour and the place was a blood bath. Members of the government were put on trial and a woman was convicted of rape. How could that be so since she hadn't raped anyone?

She was convicted of incitement. She had encouraged people to rape, therefore she was found guilty of rape.

You could argue that her conviction was terribly unfair. She hadn't physically harmed anyone and just because she encouraged people it doesn't mean they had to do it.

However incitement is a facet of genocide because dehumanisation and encouragement to commit atrocities is one stage of genocide.

The language of the government and media leading up to the riots must take some blame. In fact Starmer was recently asked to moderate his language regarding immigration because it was considered harmful.

For some these are just 'hurty words' but unfortunately the law doesn't agree. What happened has to be taken in the context of the riots because that explains her sentence.

SinnerBoy · 07/04/2025 22:16

scorpiogirly · Today 20:48

People shouldn't be put into prison for saying words.

So, if a bloke posted:

"My bitch ex took my house and money in the divorce. £10,000 in gold Krugerands if you kill her and make it look like an accident."

You'd say he shouldn't be looking at jail? Really?

TooBigForMyBoots · 07/04/2025 22:27

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 19:36

The link wikepedia that you posted?

The photo I posted is from a news article about London.

WTAF? Did you not check what your link was?🙈

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 07/04/2025 22:31

EasternStandard · 07/04/2025 21:46

Are any of these for violent tweets against women?

All the links so far seem not to be. Why do women’s death threats go without mention or doing time. Particularly when society has such an issue with male violence against women and girls.

Oh sorry I hadn’t realised you meant inciting hatred towards women. By similar I assumed you meant the riots stuff. Applogies.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 22:53

scorpiogirly · 07/04/2025 20:48

People shouldn't be put into prison for saying words.

I know what you mean - it seems positively draconian to lock someone up because of a tweet - but then, Hitler came to power via his public words, didn't he? And Twitter is public, it's not like saying those things at a dinner party in your house. But I know what you mean.

TENSsion · 08/04/2025 06:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 07/04/2025 22:27

WTAF? Did you not check what your link was?🙈

WTF?

This is in relation to a screenshot of an articlE I posted.

I didn’t share a link.

What is this lying? What’s going on?

Hippee · 08/04/2025 06:33

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:03

I don't think anyone should go to prison for tweets.

I think more people should - and that online threats to rape and murder should be treated the same. Words are dangerous and it's no use bleating that they didn't really mean it later. It's too easy to sound off or threaten online with no consequences.

scorpiogirly · 08/04/2025 07:31

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 22:53

I know what you mean - it seems positively draconian to lock someone up because of a tweet - but then, Hitler came to power via his public words, didn't he? And Twitter is public, it's not like saying those things at a dinner party in your house. But I know what you mean.

Well yeah. I don't agree with that she said and think it was disgusting, but it was just words. Meanwhile, paedophiles who are causing actual harm to children and walking out of court Scott free.

scorpiogirly · 08/04/2025 07:31

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 22:53

I know what you mean - it seems positively draconian to lock someone up because of a tweet - but then, Hitler came to power via his public words, didn't he? And Twitter is public, it's not like saying those things at a dinner party in your house. But I know what you mean.

Well yeah. I don't agree with that she said and think it was disgusting, but it was just words. Meanwhile, paedophiles who are causing actual harm to children and walking out of court Scott free.

Figgygal · 08/04/2025 07:43

scorpiogirly · 08/04/2025 07:31

Well yeah. I don't agree with that she said and think it was disgusting, but it was just words. Meanwhile, paedophiles who are causing actual harm to children and walking out of court Scott free.

But they're two separate issues aren't they and don't excuse what she did and what she pled guilty to.

Generally she had a history of bigoted nasty tweets and isn't a nice person of course the right wing commentators are martyring her she reflects many of them but she's where she deserves - playing the social media warrior and inciting hate and harm has consequences

Gloriia · 08/04/2025 07:48

Hippee · 08/04/2025 06:33

I think more people should - and that online threats to rape and murder should be treated the same. Words are dangerous and it's no use bleating that they didn't really mean it later. It's too easy to sound off or threaten online with no consequences.

There isn't the space to lock up violent criminals let alone those posting unpleasant comments.

Tweeters should get fined. I hope the judge is a laughing stock amongst their peers meanwhile a mother is banged up for something that community hours or a fine should've covered.

scorpiogirly · 08/04/2025 07:50

Figgygal · 08/04/2025 07:43

But they're two separate issues aren't they and don't excuse what she did and what she pled guilty to.

Generally she had a history of bigoted nasty tweets and isn't a nice person of course the right wing commentators are martyring her she reflects many of them but she's where she deserves - playing the social media warrior and inciting hate and harm has consequences

In my mind, paedophilia is much much worse. We'll have to agree to disagree is guess. She didn't cause physical harm.

QuirkInTheMatrix · 08/04/2025 07:59

scorpiogirly · 08/04/2025 07:50

In my mind, paedophilia is much much worse. We'll have to agree to disagree is guess. She didn't cause physical harm.

There's a paedophile in my village who says he didn't cause any harm...he only looked at photos. Obviously I disagree and he doesn't seem to get that if people didn't look at photos then the photos wouldn't get taken. But in his mind he's done nothing wrong, he's not an actual criminal. It's just the people who take the photos who are criminals.

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