New view on mental health

[Finallylostit]

Read this today. This Doctor is refreshingly honest and a thought provoking perspective on the explosion in the mental health industry

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14576559/REAL-cause-explosion-autism-depression-psychiatrist-DR-ALISTAIR-SANTHOUSE.html

So?

Goes both ways surely?

I believe there is no such thing as “normal” , everyone is on a spectrum and everyone , young and old, has traits that can be attributed to certain neurodiversities , it doesn’t mean someone should be diagnosed and labelled. Of course there are the more extreme ends of the spectrum eg with low functioning autism where diagnosis is very helpful in understanding complex needs. But I personally think some parents are seeking / paying for private diagnosis to confirm their kids are “special / different” just because the kid is prone to tantrums, is a bit behind at school post pandemic etc. Ive seen this happen to a totally “normal” kid who now believes they’re different. Some parents just want to shrink their kids.

And then this turns up.

Everyone is not on the spectrum.

Ah so my kid school refused pre-pandemic and had an NHS autism diganosis after he was trying to kill himself rather than go to school, turned out he had complex unmet needs.

He's the opposite of low functioning, now after his needs were met appropriately he is at a top university and will, most likely, fully contribute and function as an adult.

He's still autistic. When he couldn't function he was low functioning, now he can function he is extremely high functioning.

Understanding his needs helps him to (hopefully) ensure that he doesn't end up low functioning and being a burden on society as an adult.

Exactly. Autism is the diagnosis with a PDA profile (if appropriate). PDA itself isn't a diagnosis, you don't get diagnosed with PDA. It's a profile of Autism. I'm not sure why people are disagreeing with you on that. It's far from splitting hairs, it's a very important distinction. They seem to be misunderstanding the diagnostic processes and the diagnosis of the people that they work with.

No what I wanted to do was point out that the low/high functioning point that you made is nonsense.

If so-called 'high functioning' autistic people do not receive the right support this can mean that they can't function and become a burden on society.

No one with a brain cell thinks that this is a progressive way to treat people or will be a sensible way to save costs.

And using laughing emojis at my post just makes you look ignorant Jorgy Porgy

Do you find it funny when people talk about suicidal children?

Again, if you read properly, you will see I said “for example” ( eg) low functioning. Low functioning was just an example. My point is that not every kid who has tantrums for example is autistic and needs diagnosing as such. My point was some kids are getting over diagnosed. Over diagnosis/ mid diagnosis is as unhelpful as not diagnosing those who actually warrant a diagnosis. Stop making this about you.

Well it's a good job that doesn't happen then isn't it.

You appear to have zero understanding of how autism is diagnosed.

So you basically posted nothing. Excellent.

Erm you’re the one who attacked me saying I’ve no brain cells, and zero understanding. You made my subjective observation based on my personal experience all about you and your kid. I’m sorry your kid has had issues and I’m pleased they’ve been resolved through a warranted diagnosis. Just because your kid received a rightful diagnosis doesn’t mean that other kids aren’t being harmfully over diagnosed / mis diagnosed.

No, you just need to go back and reread til you understand.

No one is diagnosing kids as autistic based on a tantrum.

Except I didn't say that. I appreciate I said that I would not engage but that is not a licence for you to make things up that are not true.

What I actually said is that 'no one with a brain cell' thinks that it is progressive to remove support which results in an autistic person who is currently functioning well being unable to function.

You have obviously determined that that applies to you but it is not what I called you/ said about you.

Now I really am going to leave you to it.

Well I think this thread has run its course now. Like every thread on this subject it descends into this nonsense.

Agree.

It isn’t an example because it doesn’t happen.

But I didn’t say anything about removing support?! it seems you misunderstood my post and the implication was that you think I’m talking about removing support? Otherwise why go on about that in your reply to me? No one was talking about removing support .

Oh Ok miss authority on medical diagnosis .