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My brother has published his memoir.

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Eatingricecrispieswithafork · 03/04/2025 23:45

So my brother has written and published a book, we're estranged, well I'm estranged from my family, it's a shit show tbh.

Anyway during a Facebook messenger discussion, he told me he was writing his memoir, he's had an interesting life, I don't won't to say more as I'm trying to remain anonymous, anyway I told him to leave me out of it, he said I was only briefly mentioned in he named his 3 siblings. It came out before Xmas and despite telling myself to leave it, I bought it, I was dismayed that he had a few details. Of my childhood and adolescence and it was inaccurate, so I was a bit enjoyed, but was hardly mention3d in his later life ... then I got to the end, the photographs including 2 of me, 1 in particular was incredibly triggering, as it was taken during a very traumatic time for me and he knew that. He never asked my permission and I explicity told him I wanted left out of it. I Think he's either thought i wouldn't care or if I did i wouldn't have the money or the no how on what to do about it if anything, it's left me feeling like the lion cub that's been abandoned for the hyenas, they the family all know I'm autistic and struggletho with a lot of the nuances and aspects of everyday life... I just need some advice, your thoughts and if anyway has any knowledge about publishing laws and privacy. Thank you in advance.

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GreenClock · 04/04/2025 07:44

I do not know the law but I agree with the previous comment about the Streisand effect tbh. Especially if the photos in new editions are blurred rather than removed.

MuggleMe · 04/04/2025 07:54

BigHeadBertha · 04/04/2025 00:32

Please listen to Aunt BigHeadBertha for a sec here. I am also estranged from family and remember, there are very good reasons for that.

Therefore, my advice: Do not, I repeat DO NOT get drawn back into any of their stupid and toxic BS, which of course is exactly what this is. It is the type of thing you left over in the first place. Lack of respect, badmouthing you and etc. Am I right?

Yes, it was rude and nasty of him to include you in his memoir when you told him he didn't have permission. And of course he misrepresented you. That is because he is a rude and nasty person, just like the rest of them. They probably didn't like their scapegoat to leave. They want to keep bothering you anyway. Don't let them!

Yes, it's possible that you might be able to pay a bunch of money to an attorney or some such to make him retract it or go to the publisher and get drawn into a bunch of ugliness to make him retract it.

...And that would entail going back into that hornet's nest and dealing with the crap you've already, smartly, left behind.

I will tell you this, no professional publisher would have let him get away with that without releases from the people he's talking about. Real publishers are far smarter than to set themselves up for lawsuits. See, the whole thing is tiny and stupid. Also, people don't believe everything someone says anyway. He is most likely just showing everyone what a jerk he is so there's really no need for you to step in at all.

My advice is to throw the copy away or delete it. Let your stupid brother have his stupid little memoir and show all two or three of the people who buy it what a jerk he is. Who cares?!

Do you care? No, you do not. Because you have already moved out of that garbage dump and onto better things. Don't waste another minute thinking about what some ill mannered dimwit said about you. It doesn't matter. Just stay away from him.

That's my advice, anyway. Now I hope you will go have a super excellent week and treat yourself very, very well to balance out the dose of toxicity you've just been dealt. Best wishes, dear. :)

Edited

I think this is very sound advice.

Trendyname · 04/04/2025 07:55

Eatingricecrispieswithafork · 04/04/2025 00:11

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply ... I'm very new to this so I'm unsure how to copy in messages to my reply. So, Garlic smile, one was a family photograph taken on holiday obvs by other holidaymakers or stepdad used the timer, the other was taken in my garden when I was 13.

I specifically told him to leave me out of it, some of the childhood stuff regarding me is inaccurate and he knows that. I have zero contact with other siblings or parents, I'm the family fuck up and I know this is why he's disregarded my feelings, there was no need for pictures of me at all, none. I'd actually asked within the same correspondence if I could have my childhood pictures so I had some to give to my grand kids and was told he didn't have time to look for them ... when clearly he's went through the family pictures for his book.

Like you, I have a dysfunctional family. My childhood was traumatic. Fast forward to now, my sibling is in competition with me about who had it worse. So she would dismiss some of my experience, change some details about my experience.

I am guessing your brother feels like the biggest victim and want to believe that you had it better than him and perhaps that's the reason he has portrayed some details inaccurately and dismisses your traumatic experiences and has published those photos.

Childhood trauma ruins sibling relationships too.

ACynicalDad · 04/04/2025 07:58

Screenshot the communication with your brother so you can prove what he said to you.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/04/2025 08:01

I'd be tempted to write to your brother and say, "Give me the childhood photos I asked for and I won't ask my solicitor to write a letter to your publisher asking for all copies of your book to be recalled and pulped due to the untrue statements you have made about me and the use of my image without my consent."

Patterncarmen · 04/04/2025 08:02

If he said anything derogatory and untrue about you publicly, it is libel. If the photo was taken in a private place, there needed to be consent or a model release.

Whether it is worth pursuing these courses of action legally is only something you could decide. If you feel strongly about it, see a solicitor but it will cost you. They can write an appropriate letter to the publisher.

2JFDIYOLO · 04/04/2025 08:03

I was once looking at a book on the history of children's TV.

Over the entry for Captain Pugwash, a cartoon about pirates, there was a sticker. On it was printed (I can't remember the exact words) a statement saying the information below it was wrong.

Basically, there was a myth that one of the characters had been called Roger The Cabin Boy. As in, a crude joke about paedophilia in a children's cartoon. It was not true - but the book entry had presented it as fact. The makers had made the publishers put a sticker on every copy with the apology and correction.

It is possible to get changes and it's worth a go. You might try speaking to a solicitor (some do free consultations) and asking about your rights.

I Googled 'Solicitor free consultations'

My brother has published his memoir.
MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/04/2025 08:04

For what it's worth, my mum wrote and published a book which was almost certainly of far more general interest to more people than your brother's silly little memoirs will be to anyone, and it was still a very small print run and I don't think it has been read by very many people.

Springhassprungthesunisout · 04/04/2025 08:11

Contact the publishers legal dept (the address of the publishers should be in the front few pages or google it). Authors should have written consent from anyone whose photos they include if they don't own the copyright of the photo - it's a fairly standard author contract clause. If you've explicitly not given consent then he should not have included you.
If he self published then contact the legal dept of the company.

MojoMoon · 04/04/2025 08:12

So you are not the copyright holder of the photos so there is no line to go down there. Which is a shame because it's the easiest.

Assuming your holiday photo is somewhere public (since a random passerby may have taken it) then you have no case there in terms of privacy.
A photo in your own garden : the photographer would have needed the property owner's permission to take the photo. But that's irrelevant to whether your privacy has been breached. You might be able to say you had a reasonable expectation of privacy in the garden as the person in the photograph.

You do not need permission from individuals to publish their photos if they are taken in a public place. Think about famous photos in newspapers - they didn't ask people in famous war zones, tragedies etc if they could publish. A paparazzi photographer doesn't ask a celeb for permission to publish a photo taken in the street outside a restaurant.

I know your child's school will ask permission but that is not the same thing. They do that for safeguarding purposes.

Your brother can write about you. You cannot stop him doing that

Your brother can lie about you. And you have only limited recourse if he does
If the lie is damaging to your reputation in the community, you could sue him for libel.
If he said "OP had a favourite toy as a child and it was a stuffed badger called Mooky" and that is a lie, then unless you can prove it has damaged your reputation (eg you lost earnings or were shunned by your golf club or something like that)

Also you need to be very rich to sue for libel.

He may technically be in breach of his contract with the publisher if he told them he has your permission but that is between them and him.

So to summarise: your legal position to stop publication and have the book withdrawn is quite weak and would be entirely on the photo in your garden and whether you had reasonable expectations of privacy.

But unless you have very deep pockets, do not bring in lawyers.

My advice is move on. It's a tiny book that barely anyone will read.

Sleepinggreyhounds · 04/04/2025 08:15

If it is on a website I would be temped to write an awful review and get all my friends to do the same. Not just to get my own back but to limit the number reading it and encourage it to be quietly buried. You would need to do it under another name and make it generic e.g. boring, poorly written etc.

Spiaggio · 04/04/2025 08:22

2JFDIYOLO · 04/04/2025 08:03

I was once looking at a book on the history of children's TV.

Over the entry for Captain Pugwash, a cartoon about pirates, there was a sticker. On it was printed (I can't remember the exact words) a statement saying the information below it was wrong.

Basically, there was a myth that one of the characters had been called Roger The Cabin Boy. As in, a crude joke about paedophilia in a children's cartoon. It was not true - but the book entry had presented it as fact. The makers had made the publishers put a sticker on every copy with the apology and correction.

It is possible to get changes and it's worth a go. You might try speaking to a solicitor (some do free consultations) and asking about your rights.

I Googled 'Solicitor free consultations'

But this was a provable factual error by the authors, which both made the book and its publishers less credible, and was presumably pointed out by the powerful BBC’s well-resourced legal division as actionable for bringing BBC children’s programming into disrepute.

It’s an entirely different situation to a few details of a shared childhood and adolescence being presented in a way that a sibling feels is inaccurate (I can guarantee you that my siblings and I would write substantially different memoirs about the ‘same’ childhood) and two childhood photos in which the OP appears alongside her brother, which have been published by a very small local/vanity press.

StartAnew · 04/04/2025 08:23

OP, are you sure it is a traditional publisher rather than a vanity publisher where the writer pays to be published? The way they advertise themselves can hide this but you can tell by looking at their conditions.
I.am asking because unless your brother’s memoir focuses on something of interest to lots of people, most likely hardly anyone will buy or read the book.

2JFDIYOLO · 04/04/2025 08:24

The review idea - yes, use a pen name, give it no stars, call it dull, badly written, boring, didn't bother finishing etc.

RosesAndHellebores · 04/04/2025 08:28

Honestly op, hardly any will read it and fewer will care.

He has written about the past, it's something he's done not going to do.

It is of very little interest and even revelations about the very famous/influential/rich, are tomorrow's chip paper within a week.

MinnieCoops · 04/04/2025 08:31

Unless he’s done something remarkable I doubt anyone will want to read it. But if I were you I’d still contact the publishers.

Bloompetal · 04/04/2025 08:32

Op unless he’s well known
who the hell will buy it???

Never2many · 04/04/2025 08:34

People need to stop telling the OP to get solicitors to write letters and threaten legal action etc. The only people who will benefit from that is the solicitor.

Of course they will write a letter, they’ll write anything you’re prepared to pay them to write. That doesn’t mean they think you have a case or anything like that, it just means they get to make money. See the thread where a poster’s ex had their solicitor write her a letter demanding that she change the blinds in her living room because he couldn’t see in.

Less than 10% of libel/defamation cases succeed, and you have to have a lot of money to even try.

As for the publishers not wanting the publicity, the reality is that no-one is going to say “oh, those are the people who published Fred Bloggs’ memoirs, not going to use them because they allowed an unsolicited photo.” Because no-one is going to know who he even is, or care.

As for misrepresented information, I’m not going to say that you’re wrong, but it’s possible that you have your truth, and he has his. There may actually not be a right or wrong here if you remember things differently. And as much as people don’t like to think so, it is very possible to remember things from your childhood differently to how they happened.

But either way, what he’s written is his recollection of events. In the same way that Harry wrote his. And that didn’t seem to do the publisher any harm.

You need to just forget about this and move on. It’s easier said than done I know, but you don’t really have any other choice here, because you’re not going to win this one,and the more you try, the further you will be drawn back in.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 04/04/2025 08:40

The publishers should have made sure that your brother had permission for anything he published - they are VERY hot on not being libelled. However, you really don't have to worry. Memoirs don't sell. They really don't. Unless you are royalty, notorious or otherwise famous, nobody is going to buy the life story of 'someone who's had an interesting life'. EVERYONE thinks they've had an interesting life, but reading a memoir of someone who a) isn't a writer and has had no advice on how to write a memoir or b) has had a life with a few interesting bits but in other ways a life just like hundreds of thousands of others but is self-centred enough to believe they are extraordinary - is like wading through glue.

I bet he's had to pay for this to get published. You can contact the publisher and tell them that your brother has libeled you but if they are a vanity publisher then they won't do anything because they don't care, they just wanted your brother's money.

Mia184 · 04/04/2025 08:46

MinnieCoops · 04/04/2025 08:31

Unless he’s done something remarkable I doubt anyone will want to read it. But if I were you I’d still contact the publishers.

If it is in fact Keith McNally - owner of some fabulous restaurants, who is British and has 3 siblings including one sister - quite a few people will read it. However, it isn’t on sale yet but some early prints have been distributed a couple of months ago - there are comments by Anna Wintour and Richard E. Grant on the book.

Dutchhouse14 · 04/04/2025 08:47

BigHeadBertha · 04/04/2025 00:32

Please listen to Aunt BigHeadBertha for a sec here. I am also estranged from family and remember, there are very good reasons for that.

Therefore, my advice: Do not, I repeat DO NOT get drawn back into any of their stupid and toxic BS, which of course is exactly what this is. It is the type of thing you left over in the first place. Lack of respect, badmouthing you and etc. Am I right?

Yes, it was rude and nasty of him to include you in his memoir when you told him he didn't have permission. And of course he misrepresented you. That is because he is a rude and nasty person, just like the rest of them. They probably didn't like their scapegoat to leave. They want to keep bothering you anyway. Don't let them!

Yes, it's possible that you might be able to pay a bunch of money to an attorney or some such to make him retract it or go to the publisher and get drawn into a bunch of ugliness to make him retract it.

...And that would entail going back into that hornet's nest and dealing with the crap you've already, smartly, left behind.

I will tell you this, no professional publisher would have let him get away with that without releases from the people he's talking about. Real publishers are far smarter than to set themselves up for lawsuits. See, the whole thing is tiny and stupid. Also, people don't believe everything someone says anyway. He is most likely just showing everyone what a jerk he is so there's really no need for you to step in at all.

My advice is to throw the copy away or delete it. Let your stupid brother have his stupid little memoir and show all two or three of the people who buy it what a jerk he is. Who cares?!

Do you care? No, you do not. Because you have already moved out of that garbage dump and onto better things. Don't waste another minute thinking about what some ill mannered dimwit said about you. It doesn't matter. Just stay away from him.

That's my advice, anyway. Now I hope you will go have a super excellent week and treat yourself very, very well to balance out the dose of toxicity you've just been dealt. Best wishes, dear. :)

Edited

This is excellent advice

Spiaggio · 04/04/2025 08:47

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 04/04/2025 08:40

The publishers should have made sure that your brother had permission for anything he published - they are VERY hot on not being libelled. However, you really don't have to worry. Memoirs don't sell. They really don't. Unless you are royalty, notorious or otherwise famous, nobody is going to buy the life story of 'someone who's had an interesting life'. EVERYONE thinks they've had an interesting life, but reading a memoir of someone who a) isn't a writer and has had no advice on how to write a memoir or b) has had a life with a few interesting bits but in other ways a life just like hundreds of thousands of others but is self-centred enough to believe they are extraordinary - is like wading through glue.

I bet he's had to pay for this to get published. You can contact the publisher and tell them that your brother has libeled you but if they are a vanity publisher then they won't do anything because they don't care, they just wanted your brother's money.

You’re confusing two things — permission to use photos, and libel. Nothing the OP says suggests libel. She says ‘a few details of my childhood and adolescence were inaccurate’. To constitute libel, these inaccuracies would have to be proven to be defamatory, causing damage to, or likely to cause damage to, the reputation of an identifiable person.

And they will have been far hotter on clearing permissions with whoever took the photos, than people who are in them. If they’re childhood photos and the OP is old enough to have grandchildren, it’s probable the takers are dead.

Bloompetal · 04/04/2025 08:47

Mia184 · 04/04/2025 08:46

If it is in fact Keith McNally - owner of some fabulous restaurants, who is British and has 3 siblings including one sister - quite a few people will read it. However, it isn’t on sale yet but some early prints have been distributed a couple of months ago - there are comments by Anna Wintour and Richard E. Grant on the book.

But not been published by a very small publisher

SapporoBaby · 04/04/2025 08:50

Unfortunately for you, photographs do not belong to the subject of the photograph but to the photographer or the person who purchased/was given the photo rights by the photographer.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 04/04/2025 08:53

Spiaggio · 04/04/2025 08:47

You’re confusing two things — permission to use photos, and libel. Nothing the OP says suggests libel. She says ‘a few details of my childhood and adolescence were inaccurate’. To constitute libel, these inaccuracies would have to be proven to be defamatory, causing damage to, or likely to cause damage to, the reputation of an identifiable person.

And they will have been far hotter on clearing permissions with whoever took the photos, than people who are in them. If they’re childhood photos and the OP is old enough to have grandchildren, it’s probable the takers are dead.

Ah, I thought the OP was also complaining about what was said about her and her family as in 'the few details were wrong'. This could be construed as libel, depending on what was said and a reputable publisher would certainly have investigated before publishing. The photographs I agree they will not be bothered about, unless they show OP in a particularly bad light (not literally of course, but naked or doing something illegal).

But I still maintain that nobody is going to read it anyway, except close family members, and it probably won't be written in the most readable way in any case.