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Brother’s Wedding Would You Say Something?

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GutsyPeachExpert · 02/04/2025 11:05

Brother announced that he and SiL were getting married in September. She wasn’t even there when he told my mother. They didn’t have engagement or a big fanfare or anything.

When they have been asked about the wedding he never knows the answer but she is more forthcoming.

Once Dad asked for a lift with something but brother said he wasn’t free as they were looking at venues so that was the only hint we got.

We have now got formal wedding invitations through the post and my two little girls 6 and 4 aren’t invited.

My mother immediately rang him as she thought it was an oversite but it is a child free wedding. My mother said that as SiL doesn’t have nieces she thought my girls would be flower girls and could they make an exception as nobody would question the wedding party being an exception to the child free rule. However, he said they already had two flower girls from SiL’s side. We have never heard her even speak about these children.

I am so upset. I can accept logically the flower girl thing but for them not to be even there!

I don’t want a debate on children at weddings I want to know if I would be unreasonable to speak to my brother about how upset I am and to ask that they be invited.

OP posts:
Strugglingforanamechange · 02/04/2025 18:37

This would piss me off too as it’s clearly NOT a child free wedding if they are having flower girls from her side.
Personally I’d decline the invitation and tell them why.
even if they come back and say that your girls can come you’ll still know that they didn’t really want them there so for me that would taint the day.

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 02/04/2025 18:37

Papercup · 02/04/2025 18:36

Why are you so desperate to have your children there? Why is that so important to you that you are crying about it?

It’s not childcare because your in-laws can look after them. It’s not because there are other children there because you were happy for your children to be the only children when you thought they could be flower girls. So what is it?

I think it’s probably realising your kids don’t mean as much to their uncle as you assumed they did?

SocialSecAgain · 02/04/2025 18:40

Papercup · 02/04/2025 18:36

Why are you so desperate to have your children there? Why is that so important to you that you are crying about it?

It’s not childcare because your in-laws can look after them. It’s not because there are other children there because you were happy for your children to be the only children when you thought they could be flower girls. So what is it?

Have a read of the thread. It will become clearer!

Though if you don’t understand why it’s important to some people to have their children invited to a sibling’s wedding, then I guess you might not learn much.

SpryUmberZebra · 02/04/2025 18:40

BlondiePortz · 02/04/2025 11:26

So you said we so you have a partner why can't they stay home with the children and you go? It doesn't have to be a drama

I think it’s selfish and short sighted to cut off kids in your family for the “perfect wedding” and to add insult she invites her nieces but his nieces are not worthy?

it is short sighted because you’re willing to cause family strife just for that “perfect wedding” it’s all about the wedding, you don’t care who gets upset. I can’t say for sure but it looks like the bride is the one making the decisions and as a bride looking to marry and build a relationship with a new family I will be flexible rather than insist the grooms family be cut out all planning, insist the grooms niece and nephews don’t attend even if the brides nieces are attending. All part of the individualistic selfishness taking over our society. It’s all about me me me me me.

I loved watching my young nephew do a bible reading at our wedding, seeing him practice the weeks before the wedding etc was lovely and my nieces being part of the wedding gave me joy but I guess I am old fashioned.

Digdongdoo · 02/04/2025 18:41

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 02/04/2025 18:37

I think it’s probably realising your kids don’t mean as much to their uncle as you assumed they did?

One would think the depth of the relationship was obvious by now. Doesn't sound like they're particularly close.

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 18:43

SpryUmberZebra · 02/04/2025 18:40

I think it’s selfish and short sighted to cut off kids in your family for the “perfect wedding” and to add insult she invites her nieces but his nieces are not worthy?

it is short sighted because you’re willing to cause family strife just for that “perfect wedding” it’s all about the wedding, you don’t care who gets upset. I can’t say for sure but it looks like the bride is the one making the decisions and as a bride looking to marry and build a relationship with a new family I will be flexible rather than insist the grooms family be cut out all planning, insist the grooms niece and nephews don’t attend even if the brides nieces are attending. All part of the individualistic selfishness taking over our society. It’s all about me me me me me.

I loved watching my young nephew do a bible reading at our wedding, seeing him practice the weeks before the wedding etc was lovely and my nieces being part of the wedding gave me joy but I guess I am old fashioned.

Edited

You are spot on. Happy to be old fashioned like you! 😊 Weddings are supposed to be about the joining of two families, not excluding key members of them. Take me back to the old days!

Twattergy · 02/04/2025 18:45

All of those suggesting to just say you are not going and not explain why. Like thats perfectly rational, nay to be celebrated. How is that less hurtful than the decision made not to invite the nieces? I don't understand the complete disregard for the impact of that course of action? Isn't a relationship between a brother and a sister pretty important? Isn't going to the wedding of a sibling a demonstration of love and care and support? This far outweighs whether or not children come to said event, even if the brother and sister disagree on that point.

MinnieCoops · 02/04/2025 18:46

Angered and upset. Ye gods.

just don’t go. It’s supposed to be a happy Occassion and who they invite is up to them.

SerafinasGoose · 02/04/2025 18:50

YouCantArgueWithStupid2025 · 02/04/2025 14:45

Yes. If you both have family members that would have liked to see you get married then that is the very definition of self-centred.

Cobblers.

It's the reverse!

slashlover · 02/04/2025 18:51

With how OP and her parents are tantrumming over this, and with them clearly putting their grandkids over their own son at HIS wedding. it wouldn't surprise me if DB wanted the childfree wedding and he is the one compromising to let SIL have flower girls.

It's clear who the golden child is in this scenario, he'd probably cheer if OP declined.

SocialSecAgain · 02/04/2025 18:51

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 18:43

You are spot on. Happy to be old fashioned like you! 😊 Weddings are supposed to be about the joining of two families, not excluding key members of them. Take me back to the old days!

Yep. Some MN families have some really quite unusual dynamics! Q individualistic and cold. I wonder if they even like their family members?! Imagine not wanting your little nieces at your wedding.

EatMoreChocolate44 · 02/04/2025 19:05

BoredZelda · 02/04/2025 16:41

The divisiveness is having wedding you have decided is an adults only formal event (because that is an opinion) and inviting only some close family children but not others.

To be fair, the flower girls might not be staying for the whole wedding, they could be going home after the pictures, meal etc. We don't have enough info.

MrsSunshine2b · 02/04/2025 19:06

Yeh I wouldn't go personally. I wouldn't give up a whole day for someone else's wedding when they've excluded half of my family.

RadFs · 02/04/2025 19:07

Agix · 02/04/2025 11:07

YABU. People can have child free weddings if they want. You already have confirmation that it is child free.

Their wedding day is about them, not you. Don't tell him to invite them because you're upset, that would be kinda shitty of you. Again, it's not about you or your kids. You'll just be causing unnecessary hassle and embarrassing yourself.

If you can't go due to no childcare available, then don't go... But don't expect it to make a difference or be an effective guilt trip. The bride and groom probably won't care.

My partner and I are having a child free wedding and if any parents tell us they can't come due to it, we're not gonna care. Can't be helped. Still not having children there.

Edited

But it isn’t is it? The Sil will have some as her flower girls. This is an immediate family member’s wedding.

Rubes24 · 02/04/2025 19:07

I understand you might be a bit upset/ offended but it sounds like they genuinely just want a child free wedding and its not a personal rejection of your children. The flower girls have obviously been selected as part of the bridal party from the brides side (which I think is pretty standard.. although I do think on this occasion your B and SIL have made a bit of an error of judgement having some family kids and not others.)

At the end of the day this is really not worth you missing your own brothers wedding, and certainly not worth your parents not attending their own sons wedding! That is the type of thing that will cause a life long family rift. It is also the type of thing that sends a strong message that your parents are prioritising you and your feelings over your brother on his actual wedding day.

It's not the way you would do it but you have the understand this is their day and it's really not about all of you. At all.

Digdongdoo · 02/04/2025 19:08

MrsSunshine2b · 02/04/2025 19:06

Yeh I wouldn't go personally. I wouldn't give up a whole day for someone else's wedding when they've excluded half of my family.

Whereas I'd be delighted to have an excuse for a childfree weekend. Particularly with childcare on tap like OP.

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 19:10

SocialSecAgain · 02/04/2025 18:51

Yep. Some MN families have some really quite unusual dynamics! Q individualistic and cold. I wonder if they even like their family members?! Imagine not wanting your little nieces at your wedding.

Another thought- honestly would parents on here commenting that they wouldn’t be bothered, they have every right not to invite them, etc genuinely be happy in the future if one of their own children did this to their sibling’s future children? I would not, and will be raising my two children to value and include their future nieces and nephews out of respect to their sibling.

So many comments about her not going damaging her relationship with her brother- no way, he has done that by excluding her children, who are his family too, and should be prepared for consequences. He clearly does not value his relationship with his sister!

Littlemisscapable · 02/04/2025 19:10

WimpoleHat · 02/04/2025 11:07

Honestly - I’d write a formal but breezy “so sorry we won’t be able to join you due to childcare issues - as you’ll understand, we will be limited in our options on that day! Wishing you and SIL name a wonderful day.”

And then leave the ball firmly in their court…..

This is perfect.
I would be disappointed too. People can be so unpredictable. At least you know the score.

scotstars · 02/04/2025 19:11

OP you mentioned you weren't getting much info from your brother - is the venue limited numbers? We had friends get married recently and had child free except for wedding party as the venue only held 50 and they both have large families and friend groups

slashlover · 02/04/2025 19:14

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 19:10

Another thought- honestly would parents on here commenting that they wouldn’t be bothered, they have every right not to invite them, etc genuinely be happy in the future if one of their own children did this to their sibling’s future children? I would not, and will be raising my two children to value and include their future nieces and nephews out of respect to their sibling.

So many comments about her not going damaging her relationship with her brother- no way, he has done that by excluding her children, who are his family too, and should be prepared for consequences. He clearly does not value his relationship with his sister!

Edited

Just because siblings share the same parents, it doesn't mean they will be close as adults. It sounds like OP and her DB aren't that close in the first place.

itsjustbiology · 02/04/2025 19:15

OP not your day. They said no respect their wishes. It is not your decision to interfere with or your mums. Either go or don't .

UndermyShoeJoe · 02/04/2025 19:15

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 19:10

Another thought- honestly would parents on here commenting that they wouldn’t be bothered, they have every right not to invite them, etc genuinely be happy in the future if one of their own children did this to their sibling’s future children? I would not, and will be raising my two children to value and include their future nieces and nephews out of respect to their sibling.

So many comments about her not going damaging her relationship with her brother- no way, he has done that by excluding her children, who are his family too, and should be prepared for consequences. He clearly does not value his relationship with his sister!

Edited

Maybe that’s the actual thing. Ops only just finding out her brother doesn’t really care about her/ her children. Her invite is then a duty invite and the kids he can wash off with no children.

Anxioustealady · 02/04/2025 19:17

LAMPS1 · 02/04/2025 16:52

@Anxioustealady
Correct.
None of us know this family. That’s a given. The OP knows we only know what she has told us.
But the OP has said….
I want to know if I would be unreasonable to speak to my brother about how upset I am and to ask that they be invited.
So as invited, I gave my opinion on her question. And some background to my thinking from my experience. OP knows she can take it or leave it or give a response. That’s the way this works.
I’m sorry if it touched a nerve with you.

Patronising "touched a nerve" at the end

I simply dislike it when women are blamed for men's choices constantly, based on nothing but misogyny.

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 19:20

slashlover · 02/04/2025 19:14

Just because siblings share the same parents, it doesn't mean they will be close as adults. It sounds like OP and her DB aren't that close in the first place.

And that’s the saddest part really, modern families are increasingly more distant and value friends over their own family…so glad my family are not like this, and would not treat me or my children like this…thankful daily, it’s been an eye-opener on MN!

OutandAboutMum1821 · 02/04/2025 19:21

UndermyShoeJoe · 02/04/2025 19:15

Maybe that’s the actual thing. Ops only just finding out her brother doesn’t really care about her/ her children. Her invite is then a duty invite and the kids he can wash off with no children.

Could be

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