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To take DD 5 to McDonald's every other weekend?

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quincyquince · 27/03/2025 18:51

She's gluten free, so has a portion of small chips and either a small mcflurry or orange juice or sauce with the chips.

We go after swimming.

This is ok, right? My friend thinks it's awful that she goes twice a month. But it's not like she's having the processed bread and cheese and stuff all the time?

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LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 11:31

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/03/2025 11:13

It also means that if the food a child receives is a direct result of the quality of parenting, all those people who lost jobs or are on low incomes are therefore deemed terrible parents because they are feeding their kids what they can afford.

I was looking at our food costs the other week and noticed that a box of six apples cost twice as much as a kilo and a half of frozen chips. If you have a tenner to spend on food for your kid, are you spending a quarter of it on not even one apple a day, or on two bags of something hot and filling that will last the week?

Exactly this! It's easy to equate not providing 'good' food with bad parenting, but in reality some of the best parents are doing all they can just to get something in their children's bellies.

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 11:35

LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 11:08

I wouldn't have thought this was obvious. Food choices are about more than parenting quality. Time, money and other commitments play a role too.

There will always be a huge spectrum when it comes to parenting. Unless people are actively seeking to harm their child, is there a need to judge? Just parent your kids how you want. The question wasnt 'am i terrible parent', it was is it ok to take DD to mcdonalds every other weekend'

Time and money (and proper allocation thereof) are part of parenting.

Whether or not to take an age 5 child to MCDonald’s dozens of times per year clearly is a parenting choice. What else would it be??

OP asked for opinions in a large forum; if she only wanted approval why bother?

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 11:36

LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 11:31

Exactly this! It's easy to equate not providing 'good' food with bad parenting, but in reality some of the best parents are doing all they can just to get something in their children's bellies.

But chose to have children they couldn’t afford to feed…

Cyclistmumgrandma · 28/03/2025 11:41

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 27/03/2025 19:00

But why can you not do a treat that's not full of rubbish, like taking her somewhere that does proper cake made with real ingredients?

Because the child is gluten free.....

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/03/2025 11:49

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 11:36

But chose to have children they couldn’t afford to feed…

Or, had children they could afford to feed then circumstances changed.

When we had DD we both earned less than we do now, but cost of living was much lower. Since having her we've both had promotions and the wage rises that come with it, but as far as money goes, we're in the same position because the cost of everything went up dramatically too.

People lose jobs. They become unwell. Things change. Not everyone on a low income has chosen to have children whilst in the low income. They could afford them when they had them and then things changed. Would you suggest they send them back??

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 11:50

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 11:36

But chose to have children they couldn’t afford to feed…

people's circumstances can change overnight. my sister was fine easily affording her 2 kids - then she lost her job and was struggling for months and months

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quincyquince · 28/03/2025 11:50

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 11:35

Time and money (and proper allocation thereof) are part of parenting.

Whether or not to take an age 5 child to MCDonald’s dozens of times per year clearly is a parenting choice. What else would it be??

OP asked for opinions in a large forum; if she only wanted approval why bother?

it's a parenting choice, but it doesn't mean is "bad parenting"

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MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 28/03/2025 11:53

Thanks OP, this thread has given me some really good laughs.

Swiftie1878 · 28/03/2025 11:55

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 11:50

it's a parenting choice, but it doesn't mean is "bad parenting"

Well, it depends on your definition.

Whatever way you look at it, every other weekend is creating a habit/routine.
The fact that that habit/routine is to go to a fast food outlet which sells food and drinks that are high in salt and sugar and have no nutritional value can not be good parenting, that’s for sure.

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 11:58

DrCoconut · 28/03/2025 11:20

Don’t forget folks that on average the child will eat far less “junk” as most of it contains gluten. No slice of cake at school when it’s someone’s birthday. No food at parties or soft play. No Greggs in town. No Burger King or KFC. No donuts or waffles at the fair or seaside. Lots of crisps and chocolate bars are a no go as is most beige freezer food. There are far worse things than a GF child having a few chips twice a month.

yes - indeed she does eat less crap than other kids - partly becasof the GF - we can't really go to bakeries/cafes for sweet treats - as its only borwnies she can have and she can find them too choclatey/sweet.

Her little friend next door, daily meals look a bit like this
breakfast, coco pops and a cup of tea
lunch, billy bear ham sandwich, frube, quavers and a penguin
dinner; turkey dinosaur, spaghetti shapes and potato smiles - and icecream for after
snacks - are bear yoyos / sweets / crisps

he didn't even know what a pepper was when he was round ours the other day.

my daughter has:
breakfast, boiled eggs, plain yoghurt and some blueberries
lunch: cheese and lettuce roll, mini carrots, cucumber, cherry toms, and a satsuma
dinner; brown rice, grilled salmon and broccoli - if we have pudding I might make a crumble or something. (but I'm boring and put chia/flaxseeds and nuts and oats in the crumble mix to help boost the nutrition)
snacks: banana / nuts / hard boiled eggs / cold meats

So yes - this is why I am questioning whether its not that bad she has chips twice a month, and then OJ/Sauce/Icecream - because I don't think it's so bad? but here are people saying it's akin to poison or something

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Growlybear83 · 28/03/2025 11:59

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 28/03/2025 11:53

Thanks OP, this thread has given me some really good laughs.

I agree 😆. I don’t think some people realise how ridiculous they sound.

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 12:02

Swiftie1878 · 28/03/2025 11:55

Well, it depends on your definition.

Whatever way you look at it, every other weekend is creating a habit/routine.
The fact that that habit/routine is to go to a fast food outlet which sells food and drinks that are high in salt and sugar and have no nutritional value can not be good parenting, that’s for sure.

Well, if that is all it takes to be a bad parent - then we're all guilty. I guess you've stopped all cakes and sweets at birthdays, chocolate at Easter, only allow them to eat vegetables at parties etc other wise your just creating a habit/routine to give your kids food high in sugar/salt with no nutritional value on these occasions.

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quincyquince · 28/03/2025 12:05

The more people say things like "Its bad parenting" or "This will set DD up with bad habits" - the more I think these posters have incredibly unhealthy relationships with food.

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Swiftie1878 · 28/03/2025 12:05

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 12:02

Well, if that is all it takes to be a bad parent - then we're all guilty. I guess you've stopped all cakes and sweets at birthdays, chocolate at Easter, only allow them to eat vegetables at parties etc other wise your just creating a habit/routine to give your kids food high in sugar/salt with no nutritional value on these occasions.

An occasional treat is very different to a fortnightly routine, as you well know.
Look, you asked the question. People have answered.
You clearly weren’t interested in any answer that you disagree with, so why ask? You do you. 🤷🏼‍♀️

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 12:07

Swiftie1878 · 28/03/2025 12:05

An occasional treat is very different to a fortnightly routine, as you well know.
Look, you asked the question. People have answered.
You clearly weren’t interested in any answer that you disagree with, so why ask? You do you. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Occasional treat? Kids this age get invited to DOZENS of parties a year, as well as celebrating family birthdays and Easter and Christmas etc - literally the association with celebration is with sweet food. it is a routine and habit that the entire nation upholds.

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TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 12:07

quincyquince · 28/03/2025 11:50

people's circumstances can change overnight. my sister was fine easily affording her 2 kids - then she lost her job and was struggling for months and months

Job loss, economic woes and other setbacks happen in most lifetimes and should be factored in to family planning. It’s a feature, not a bug.

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 12:08

Swiftie1878 · 28/03/2025 12:05

An occasional treat is very different to a fortnightly routine, as you well know.
Look, you asked the question. People have answered.
You clearly weren’t interested in any answer that you disagree with, so why ask? You do you. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Well said, @Swiftie1878

I mean, this was started because the OP’s real life friend chastised her. Clearly something is amiss.

cardibach · 28/03/2025 12:15

MumWifeOther · 27/03/2025 23:26

Simply not true. None of mine had junk or excess sugar until much older and even then was very rarely. They have a very healthy attitude to food and actually make much better choices. They don’t have an addiction to sugary shit like most other school age kids I see gorging on crap every other day!

My daughter didn’t (and doesn’t as an adult) ‘gorge on crap’. We had fast food sometimes. I mostly cook (and cooked then) from scratch at home. What I don’t do is use nasty, judgement laden words like ‘gorge’ (or others I see a lot on here like ‘gobble’, ‘stuff’, etc) about food.

LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 12:17

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 11:36

But chose to have children they couldn’t afford to feed…

You cannot be uneducated enough to think that peoples situations don't change, so I won't bother listing all the ways in which people end up struggling with children they were perfectly able to afford at birth

LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 12:19

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LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 12:20

Swiftie1878 · 28/03/2025 12:05

An occasional treat is very different to a fortnightly routine, as you well know.
Look, you asked the question. People have answered.
You clearly weren’t interested in any answer that you disagree with, so why ask? You do you. 🤷🏼‍♀️

It's one meal in forty two. That's definitely occasional

arethereanyleftatall · 28/03/2025 12:23

The marketing team at McDonalds have done an awesome job on making sure some people’s beliefs are that eating a McDonald’s equates to a joyous existence.

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 12:24

LilacPeer · 28/03/2025 12:17

You cannot be uneducated enough to think that peoples situations don't change, so I won't bother listing all the ways in which people end up struggling with children they were perfectly able to afford at birth

Contingencies can and should be planned for.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/03/2025 12:31

TheHerboriste · 28/03/2025 12:24

Contingencies can and should be planned for.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but you can tell you've been lucky enough to not have a crazy run of bad luck.

We've got two good careers with decent incomes and progression plans. We have insurances and savings. A while back, despite being in completely different fields (because don't put all your eggs in one basket, right?) both of us were really unexpectedly put at risk of redundancy, at the same time, and at the same time as DH had a cancer scare.

Now, both of us wound up safe in our roles, thankfully, and DHs health stuff turned out minor, luckily. But what could have happened was both incomes were gone, we were both looking for new employment while trying to pay all the bills (and insurance premiums) from savings and while DH was undergoing chemo.

What's your contingency plan for the entire household income disappearing overnight and your partner needing intensive treatment while job hunting? I'd really like to know, because I am really good at overthinking the future possibilities and even I didn't think that would happen til it almost did.

These things happen to people.

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 28/03/2025 12:33

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