Massive overreaction to a TV show

[Kilroyonly]

I have watched Adolescence but don’t feel it was in any way relevant to my life nor my children It’s a very good show but it doesn’t resonate & I don’t understand the hype

They deliberately didn’t delve in to Katie’s character to make the point it is always the perpetrator that gets the attention not the victim.
Im sure it was the woman detective that made this point in the show also.

Totally agree, I found it overhyped, badly acted and forgettable. But the British public is only able to relate to issues if presented in drama form (see also the post office scandal), a bit like babies needing their food pureed.

I’m just astonished that anyone finds ot remotely relevant

Can you explain this a bit more? Why don't you think it's relevant?

As a mother of a son I've made it my business to research what is happening online and to attempt to understand the manosphere and the messages being promoted. However, I know people who have ignored it and even accused me of exaggerating.
This programme has opened up these discussions again and people I know are taking it more seriously.
That can only be a good thing.

I’ve got two baby daughters so it’s relevant to me even now, despite me being able to protect them. But I already battle to delay them accessing screens, knowing where they could lead them to one day. Sadly, when I found out I was having them, after the initial excitement both my mind and my husband’s went to our fear of raising girls in today’s world. If I didn’t have them and had sons, it’d also be relevant to me. If I was child free, I have nieces and nephews and even without taking those into consideration, I am still surrounded by men who make up half the population. And screens are ubiquitous. Women my age aren’t protected from misogyny and toxic masculinity, as the news will demonstrate as it’s rarely a day goes by where there isn’t another story of a woman (of any age) being killed at the hands of a man. This has always happened and screens seem to be becoming a relevant if not central detail in cases more and more.

How on Earth isn’t it relevant to you unless you have cut yourself off from the world?

I’m not sure who it’s aimed at. I have two sons, I’m already taking every precaution. Of course you worry about these things. They don’t have internet connected devices in their rooms. They don’t have smart phones. We talk about respect and consent etc.

But this feels like selling anxiety. So many parents are now awake at night worrying their children are going to do something terrible. I don’t think it’s good for people.

I hope you’re a nursery or primary school teacher. Otherwise I’d be worried that you’re not clued up tbh

Totally agree, I found it overhyped, badly acted and forgettable. But the British public is only able to relate to issues if presented in drama form (see also the post office scandal), a bit like babies needing their food pureed.

I guess we can't all be as clever (or as smug) as you 🤷🏼‍♀️

Same as a teacher.

Tate’s rhetoric is v much part of what we now have to deal with quite frequently in secondary, depressingly.

Anyone with children should be able to relate to it. You have kids of an impressionable age! You don’t always know what they’re up to, what they’re doing on their phones, who their friends are. You’re naïve if you feel this could never affect you. It’s good you weren’t upset by it as I have a 6yo boy and was crying and I never cry!

This is also my experience.

Poverty, housing problems and street crime have a much bigger impact than the internet.

No, but you can try being an adult 😊.

But street crime in my context (secondary teacher in inner city where we’ve had many a gang-related issue/crime) is actually deeply rooted in drill music accessed online.

In episode 1 they showed you him being vulnerable so you didn't believe he could have done anything wrong. Up until the CCTV footage I thought he had been arrested by mistake. Up until the CCTV footage he was my young teenage son and I was shocked into devastation when it showed that he done it.

Other than that, the young lads acting was absolutely brilliant, so believable and powerful, especially in episode 3.

No, but you can try being an adult 😊.

I am an adult, an educated one too.
But I don't feel the need to call people stupid for enjoying a tv programme or finding it thought provoking. It's unnecessary.

I thought there was too much emphasis on the " cleverness" of the one take filming, which made it seem less real to me. Partly because my DP was constantly commenting in it, rather than the plot. Traditional style filming would allowed a more substantial plot/characters.
Surely it's relevant to to all households who have children though? I think you've missed the point OP.

I feel somewhat similar about Rainbow. A lot of people thought it was really good whilst I... well I just thought it was unconvincing.

Bungle was malforned as a bear, his face was all wrong. Too small for his head.

Zippy constantly had his fingers in his mouth, which I found rather unpleasant.

And George...a pink, gender-fluid hippo - what was that all about?

Poverty, housing problems and street crime have a much bigger impact than the internet.

But it's all related.
Much of Andrew Tate's content is related to making money. Although, he never really says how, perhaps it's to do with the PhD hid 'university' offers. That stands for a Pimping Hoes Degree.

The incel narrative blames women for mens problems. So while poverty does have a huge impact, it doesn't take long to find content on the internet which blames women for this (and anything tbh)

It’s relevant to society…. My dc are not allowed social media etc and we wouldn’t let them out that late at that age but the themes are vital to ensuring women in the workplace can succeed, men can be heard and respected …. No innocent child is murdered etc etc. don’t you care about others! Or the society your children will live in.

My children are primary age, so don't have phones or social media. I still thought the show was very relevant because they hear so much sexism in the playground already from children higher up the school who do have phones and free access to the internet.

I also know grown men who watch that red pill nonsense and have awful views of women that they either didn't have 20 years ago (or didn't feel confident enough to voice in public) who now espouse it freely: women are all gold diggers, women trap a man by getting pregnant, why should men pay child support if they wanted the woman to about, how dare women refuse their husband sex - that's what they signed up for, women should do all the housework even if working full time because their wages are lower so they don't contribute equally to the house.

I reallybworry about what my sons will be exposed to in the future. It's relevant to all of us.

This!

OP its everywhere - behind every click of a button on the internet. I work in Safeguarding and believe me it’s happening in many, many homes where parents are naive enough to think ‘it won’t happen to me’ ‘it doesn’t reflect my life.’.

The fact that each episode was filmed in one shot is impressive especially the bit where the lad runs out of the window.

I think it was very lightweight and simplistic. In real life there is always a backstory involving mental health services, social services and often the police.

My teenage DD thinks it is very relevant to her life and thinks it is something that should be on everyone's radar. But if you don't have concerns about wider society, then maybe it won't resonate.

I don’t think it’s just the access to the internet , it’s the parenting alongside. I have boys and girls and my teenaged sons are really respectful of women, very aware of misogyny and very much aware that things like amber heard v Johnny depp are heavily influenced by social media. I’ve always talked to them about women’s issues and how different feeling safe is.
edited to add my point is that they do have free access to the internet, do have devices in their rooms but I don’t see any worrying attitudes from them.

You just carry on burying your head in the sand then.