Massive overreaction to a TV show

[Kilroyonly]

I have watched Adolescence but don’t feel it was in any way relevant to my life nor my children It’s a very good show but it doesn’t resonate & I don’t understand the hype

I saw the film being more about misogyny and the potential of the Internet to lead young people down a dark path. I didn’t really see it as being a film about knife crime. I guess it’s all about interpretation. Like all entertainment media.

I actually didn’t love it. I felt it lacked depth and parts did not ring true; I was underwhelmed as a whole. It’s just a TV show after all I guess. But I still understood what it was trying to do. And some of the individual acting was phenomenal.

there was a huge reaction to the post office scandal,
still talked about today

If this post is real, then as a teacher you have a responsibility to educate yourself and find out. Regardless of the tv show the issues raised are very important.

You’ve missed the entire point

Why did you not put the name in the title? Is it because this in the 35378th thread about this show?

I can’t believe that any teacher doesn’t know about Andrew Tate or how social media /the internet is destroying our children right in front of our eyes. I’ve taught for a very long time. Children have changed in a way I never could have imagined. Toxic algorithms coupled with screen addiction is, imo, a public health crisis.

I agree with OP. The issues it raises are important but it didn’t explode any of them in detail.

Its relevant because we live in a society where children kill children. Where male on female violence has reached 'epidemic' proportions, and where there had been a sharp increase in this in in under 19s. Its relevant because there are malign influences online that are vieled behind innocent content in a deliberate attempt to expose boys and men to misogynist ideologies. It's relevant because children are bullied at school, boys for falling short of masculine ideals, girls for their sexuality. Its relevant because in homes up and down the country, well meaning and loving parents are inadvertently role modelling damaging sex based dynamics. If you and your children live in this society, you may come across the outcomes of one or more of these things. You may not. You may not have yet. But until you all reach the end of your lives, you don't know that you never will. And then it will feel relevant.

You're not being particularly articulate OP. Can you elaborate?

We are living in a world with people like Andrew Tate, influencing and warping the minds of children and young people.

We have incels and the 'manosphere', social media bullying, and increasing misogyny amongst young people. These aren't things that the show has made up, these are real - made even more apparent by the fact that it does resonate with so many.

Why are you 'astonished that anyone finds it remotely relevant' just because you don't? Have you looked at society lately? Are you saying this out of concern that you don't understand, or do you feel everyone is overreacting?

It's great that you and your children are not affected by this, but you must be living under a rock if you think it's not relevant to society at all.

Even if they use devices downstairs you can’t be sure what they are on. And you certainly can’t know what they are watching on their friends’ devices.

It was a 4 episode mini series. Of course it didn't explore everything in huge detail. It started a conversation.

I think it’s very relevant to everyone tbh. I’ve no children but i work with children and young people.

Parents need to know and understand what their children are doing online. Loads do not!! even small children…, i’ve been told ‘ i’ve no idea what they watch on you tube i don’t understand it’ It’s ridiculous.

Parents of boys need to educated them on this toxic masculinity bullshit and the parents of girls equally also need to educate them too!

This.
Even if you don't have boys, or any DC, if this is allowed to continue it will affect all women eventually.
Do we want a whole generation of men in a few years who have been subjected to this?

I think the show is okay, but I agree about the aggressive marketing and the hype and that's spoiled it a bit for me. I've read so much about it, good and bad. I would have liked to watch it without all the hype.

I do also think it's a shame they didn't seek better advice on the programme from police and solicitors as some of it is unrealistic.

Agree. But then the vagueness meant we could watch with teens and discuss. I’m glad it wasn’t graphic, it was upsetting enough.

I’ve never watched Game of Thrones because it’s just not relevant to my own life and tbh I’m pretty furious with the makers for not considering my specific circumstances 😡

I disagree. It was entirely for entertainment. It is a crime thriller. I suspect that is why its makers are surprised by how it has been received. I think its success is largely due to its standout performances. The actors took it seriously and elevated it to another level.

it was ok. I didn’t find the show very good as people have said it just hinted at the online stuff, i would have missed the theme if I hadn’t seen all the hype. And maybe missing the theme is intentional but its not a very good ploy if it goes over peoples heads.

Well, borrow some dragons from somewhere and have an incestuous affair with your twin? I mean, try harder, right?😀

This is a bit of an odd post. I don’t have teens at the moment but I thought it was relevant to me because it’s happening in the world I’m currently living in.

I suppose concepts about things like climate change wouldn’t be “relevant” to me if I only considered whether I see or notice evidence of them in my day to day life, but the fact that it’s happening whether I notice or not makes me feel it is still relevant.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean? Why wasn’t it relevant?

are your children much older or much younger perhaps?

Don’t have access to the internet?
don’t have smart phones?
don’t go out without you?
don’t have friends who have internet access?

A lot of programmes might not be directly relevant to my life at any one point. But it doesn’t mean I can’t watch and enjoy those programmes for what they are, especially if it’s one which is thought provoking or makes you consider the way things are in life at the moment.

💯

So much hand wringing.
I work with disadvantaged boys and it’s only a tiny minority that are anything like as misogynist as the boys from 40 years ago when I grew up.
Luckily only a few have been knife carrying but even these boys seemed to be able to talk about feelings and problems in a way kids rarely did back in the day.

I didn’t much like Adolescence despite it being cleverly shot.

There is a tv section...

I guess we will. Again though. we are talking about 13 year olds not 18 year olds. You come across as sensible in your writing so I’m surprised to hear you would let a 13yo have unrestricted access to the internet and stay out all night.

Parent them properly when they are young and they’ll be more likely to conduct themselves well at 18 when they do have the freedom.