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To find Rachel Reeves an irritating pain in the neck

269 replies

Viviennemary · 26/03/2025 13:05

Just been listening to this Spring Statement. What a load of total waffle. About how great things are going to be. Absolute and utter nonsense.

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mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:09

Growth has alluded us since 08, we need. radical change & it will take years

mydogfarts · 26/03/2025 15:11

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 26/03/2025 13:53

So, Rachel Reeves plans to provide "upfront investment so we can support more children into foster care to give them the best possible start in life and reduce cost pressures in the future" and that is priority enough she's speaking about it in her Spring Statement?

Is it only me who finds that chilling?

No. The opposite. At present Far too many children are pushed back home to dreadful awful birth parents because of the costs and of foster care and the pressure on local authority finances

Normallynumb · 26/03/2025 15:12

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CantStopMoving · 26/03/2025 15:12

friendlycat · 26/03/2025 15:05

She came into this government and parliament promising growth and the fact that labour would deliver the growth.

Her policies are the exact opposite of growth. The increase in NI, plus the reduction in the band level that it is paid, is going to hit many many companies very hard. It's economic illiteracy at its finest. She needs the private sector to create growth but has just hampered them to do so.

It's the private sector that creates and drives the growth that stimulates the economy. Always has been and always will be.

She keeps backing herself into corners and I can't see her lasting the course. But who on earth is capable of replacing her is another matter. To just replace her with another incompetent chancellor wouldn't help the matter either unless they dismantled her previous Autumn budget and started again.

This is the thing j don’t understand. I have worked in economics and finance for 20 years. Despite this, I do not feel in any way, shape or form that I would have the experience/ability to be chancellor.

but, if I was, I absolutely would just be cutting business taxes hard. Perhaps go heavier on corporation tax but less on employment tax. Tax profits not costs. Encourage reinvestment of residual profits. I absolutely see no gain in taxing your business for having employees. All it does is encourage you to keep your workforce lean, which means a greater amount on benefits. Surely this is obvious to anyone?

HRTQueen · 26/03/2025 15:12

Booksaresick · 26/03/2025 15:01

Or warmth for that matter …? Would you demand more warmth from a male politician ?

It was often said about Gordon Brown and continues to be said about Sir Keir Starmer

But regardless she will be judged more I haven't agreed with all decisions made but I like her straightforward approach. Labour told us they shall have to make difficult decisions

EasternStandard · 26/03/2025 15:13

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:09

Growth has alluded us since 08, we need. radical change & it will take years

Probably best not to halve it to start with.

ilovesooty · 26/03/2025 15:14

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Here4thechocs · 26/03/2025 15:14

Newgirls · 26/03/2025 13:10

I think she’s ace! Breath of fresh air and getting on with things. Brilliant!

So do I. I really like her. People need to understand and remember what we lived through the past 14 or so years. They aren’t going to turn all that mess around in the months they’re been in govt.
(Un) surprisingly, it’s the same folks that voted the Torries & perhaps Brexit that complain about the LP.

First , their fear was that the LP was going to “ waste “ all the funds they’d managed to “conserve “ and now, it’s that they aren’t spending as much and cutting back ? People need pick a battle. We either want a working economy or we don’t.

TwentyKittens · 26/03/2025 15:14

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:09

Growth has alluded us since 08, we need. radical change & it will take years

The economy hasn't recovered since then, I agree, and I also agree about change. Unfortunately it seems like more of the same.

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:14

Perhaps go heavier on corporation tax but less on employment tax. Tax profits not costs. Encourage reinvestment of residual profits. I absolutely see no gain in taxing your business for having employees. All it does is encourage you to keep your workforce lean, which means a greater amount on benefits. Surely this is obvious to anyone?

Wouldn't an increase on corporation tax mean less profit though?

friendlycat · 26/03/2025 15:15

CantStopMoving · 26/03/2025 15:12

This is the thing j don’t understand. I have worked in economics and finance for 20 years. Despite this, I do not feel in any way, shape or form that I would have the experience/ability to be chancellor.

but, if I was, I absolutely would just be cutting business taxes hard. Perhaps go heavier on corporation tax but less on employment tax. Tax profits not costs. Encourage reinvestment of residual profits. I absolutely see no gain in taxing your business for having employees. All it does is encourage you to keep your workforce lean, which means a greater amount on benefits. Surely this is obvious to anyone?

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It is to anybody with any knowledge of basic economics yes. That's the worry and she is the chancellor.

Baconmaple · 26/03/2025 15:15

Rachel Reeves’ benefits cuts will push an estimated quarter of a million people, including 50,000 children, into poverty by the end of this decade, according to the government's own impact assessment.

ThymeScent · 26/03/2025 15:15

NDornotND · 26/03/2025 13:11

I like her. Businesslike and competent.

Assume this is a joke? She is the opposite.

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:15

Unfortunately it seems like more of the same.

That's the depressing bit, can things ever change?

Arrivals4lucky · 26/03/2025 15:16

Viviennemary · 26/03/2025 13:05

Just been listening to this Spring Statement. What a load of total waffle. About how great things are going to be. Absolute and utter nonsense.

Oooh, the VAT on schools fees starting to bite???

CantStopMoving · 26/03/2025 15:18

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:14

Perhaps go heavier on corporation tax but less on employment tax. Tax profits not costs. Encourage reinvestment of residual profits. I absolutely see no gain in taxing your business for having employees. All it does is encourage you to keep your workforce lean, which means a greater amount on benefits. Surely this is obvious to anyone?

Wouldn't an increase on corporation tax mean less profit though?

Yes but profit comes after everything else. You have to tax something. You want to drive growth so you want companies to be making money. If you tax employees then companies are not going to be making much profit to tax corporation tax on. Then losses can be carried forward to future years so less tax on those years.

FiveBarGate · 26/03/2025 15:19

I'm actually quite impressed that she's not shying away from the massive mess of benefits.

If the conservatives did this, labour would vote it all down so it's quite ironic we need a labour government to address it.

I think the manifesto promises not to raise taxes have her hamstrung..the usual options aren't available. There isn't the magic money tree they implied existed.

The trouble is that leaves many anti businesses options and so here we are. We are all going to get a shock at the cost of everything after April 1st..

timeforachange999 · 26/03/2025 15:19

RR said the below today
“The Labour party is the party” of work, Reeves says. More than 1,000 people a day are qualifying for personal independence payments (Pip), Reeves says. “It is a waste of their potential and a waste of their futures.”

PIP is not an out of work benefit and is supposed to help disabled people with the extra costs of being disabled, including in employment. I personally think her above comments are disgraceful and they actually demonstrate ignorance and lack of understanding of PIP and the problems disabled people face. She could at least just be truthful and say we can't afford to pay for peoples disabilities anymore but to dress it up as PIP stopping people from working is typical politician speak trying to get support from the public to cut payments to workshy disabled people.

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:22

@CantStopMoving I'm just not convinced increased corporation tax wouldn't also encourage a leaner workforce.

AdaStewart · 26/03/2025 15:24

This big old common bird looks awkward. God knows where they got her from.

Starmer reminds me of Steve Pemberton, the creepy one from Royston Vasey.

cardibach · 26/03/2025 15:24

strawlight · 26/03/2025 15:00

Well, you’d be wrong about that. And it’s £4k a term for day kids, with excellent SEN provision. Dozens of local kids who don’t fit mainstream schools go there instead.

Dozens. And how many people in the constituency?

luckylavender · 26/03/2025 15:25

Geetf · 26/03/2025 13:12

I miss having Boris as PM and Rishi as chancellor

Oh dear

cardibach · 26/03/2025 15:25

Geetf · 26/03/2025 14:57

He HAD to keep the economy afloat somehow? All the "scientists" were advocating for more and more and more lockdown. It was the mistake of Boris of listening to them.

And why didn’t our economy recover after the pandemic, as other countries with similar lockdown provision did?

HRTQueen · 26/03/2025 15:26

I agree FiveBarGate

the benefits system absolutely has to be changed and I think it was a mistake to make such a promise not to increase taxes

mushroomshroom · 26/03/2025 15:28

the benefits system absolutely has to be changed and I think it was a mistake to make such a promise not to increase taxes

Income tax particularly for higher earners is high and that's before you look at the cliff edges or the frozen tax bands.