To find so many police bullies?

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Is it just me who finds so many police just utter bullies?

I unfortunately had to call them today and the officer was just so arrogant at knowing it all (while knowing nothing and just completely ignorant) and then as I stood holding my door open for him to leave he grabbed hold of my knocker and yanked the door taking my arm with it hurting me and has broken my knocker.

I'm just so sick of it. I phoned the police to report his assault of me and apparently you can't report a crime a police officer has committed- I have to make a complaint. And no, they won't send a different officer round to take a statement from me (about what I originally phoned the police for.) - they will send him around to potentially assault me again - thanks for the understanding!

I'm told I have to make a complaint for inappropriate force - I mean what exactly do they consider appropriate force against a member of the public politely holding the door open for them? The mind boggles. There's no point in making a complaint as I tried it last time and 4 months later there's been no response! Noone can tell me when I may or may not get a response. They are literally a law unto themselves!

This is very strange I work with police day in day out and haven't witnessed or experienced this, and when I've had to call them about personal matters, intruders and supporting a friend report domestic abuse and sexual assault they were fantastic. Yet you've had grounds for two formal complaints in a few months.
Why would an officer deliberately damage your door? Were they trying to close it not realising your were holding it? You've not really given any detail as to what constitutes your complaints or what they've done to make you perceived them as a know it all, so it's difficult to comment on your situation.

I imagine most police officers are so used to dealing with abusive /inconsiderate /uncooperative members of the public that they have to create a certain attitude themselves coz you come across so many that have no patience and talk to you so unprofessionally , not all but many don’t seem to care about people anymore .

But working with the public does that to you . I worked in retail for 10 years til recently and the last few years I’ve struggled with patience dealing with people . Because the public have become arseholes . Selfish , impatient and rude so I can imagine working with people who are breaking the law they are coming across even worse behaviour from people .

They are only human at the end of the day and that uniform doesn’t make them any less so .

Two interactions with police in as many months and both have resulted in complaints. Maybe they're not the problem 🤔

I've had various interactions with officers both in a work capacity and personally and have always found them helpful and professional.

But no doubt this will turn into a police bashing thread

I guess you’d get the odd one but in my experience the majority a doing a difficult and dangerous job these days. There is little respect both from the general public and not much concern for their welfare from their managers. It’s not a job I would like to do.

Is there a common denominator in this at all do you think?

I hate the police too. They probably hate me too - I have placed formal complaints about officers and escalated it all the way after being fobbed off. Certain police officers think they are above the law.

The police themselves perhaps? Or are you trying to suggest the OP?

The culture of the police and their internal processes are set up in a way where poor service is consistent.

I reported a crime, gave all the details then to my surprise the officer wrote a false report that led to my crime report being closed. I complained. The officer called me angrily, shouted & accused me of lying about giving him the correct information.

Later on he admitted to 1. Initially writing the correct information and then false information later, and then confronting me over his incompetence when I had in fact given the right information. His sergeant attributed this to them being understaffed and him being inexperienced and forgetful. He literally said to me that under the circumstances, the service given was shit but “acceptable”. The bar is extremely low.

I have not had need to use the police but I do know many police officers personally, and more commonly their wives , and almost with no exception the police I have encountered are all bullying bastards (and often cheating bastards and or violently abusive husbands) but I appreciate that is anecdotal

I used to think the police were there to protect, you could trust them etc. Then I actually experienced them when we were related to a victim of crime who died. The bizarre bullying, incompetency and actually threatening behaviour towards our family (who had done nothing except be related to a person who died) was an eye opener. I recall one incident where myself, my mum and my partner (middle class highly educated people, I say that for context to illustrate that we are usually capable of being able to access support and stick up for ourselves, we were not vulnerable) were turned upon by the police in such an egregious manner that we just sat there absolutely agog jaws on the ground.
I do not trust them AT ALL.

Do you genuinely think the door thing was intentional? It sounds like he was closing the door, unaware of your arm and obviously unaware that the door knocker would get damaged. Are you saying it came off in his hand and he didn’t care or that it was damaged in a way that he didn’t necessarily notice? That example sounds like a stretch for assault and bullying, though I’m not doubting that he could’ve come across poorly in your exchange, no doubt some officers are and it goes beyond a few ‘bad apples’ for lots of reasons, systemic and to do with the type of person who can do - and who wants to do - a job like that. There’s a mix of course, some better than others, but there’s definitely traits that make someone able to go towards trouble instead of running away from it like most of us, and it doesn’t always make for the warmest of souls. I don’t think that the complaint about the door is a great example though, the way you’ve put it, and it’s hard to tell your part in things too, if this keeps happening.

How is closing a door by pulling the door knocker assault. He may have been genuinely unaware you were holding it.

Assault? Are you sure you're not being overly dramatic? Unfortunate injury, yes but assault? Nope, not from what you've described. what kind of life are you living where you interact with them so frequently to know they're all bullies? I think you missed the boat with the 'down with the po-lice' sentiment 4 years ago...

I agree. Whenever I've needed them they've either been deeply unpleasant or not turned up at all (house intrusion).

The job definitely seems to attract a type.

D H is a PCSO and from what he tells me a lot of them are shits.

YANBU. There are unpleasant people in all professions and it's not new, nor is it because they're dealing with unpleasant people etc. Sometimes they are just awful people.

I remember in the 90s, getting a knock on the door from 2 patrolling police offers (M&F), who'd noticed my tax disc wasn't being displayed.
They made me walk out to my car to check, whilst in my pajamas (night shift), to see the disc was there, just the top plate had come undone and it was resting on the dash instead. I then got a lecture in the street, whilst in my jams, about displaying it.
The female was the one doing all this, they walked behind me to my car, sniggering at me.

This.

It sounds quite mad TBH, so I'm not surprised at the response to you trying to get him booked for assault. There are good and bad police officers, but based just on the door knocker YABVVVVVVVU. He's a human who pulled a door closed, focus on important things in life and you'll be much happier.

If it's genuinely happened how you have said then put a complaint in - they do have to investigate - he will have had a body worn video camera that will have recorded everything both of you have said and done.

Assume there is a huge backstory here that you’re not telling us OP.

The police, nurses, sen teachers

All recruited from the same pool of former school bullies, honestly

Don't worry about this situation, op, you won't be tsken seriously as its a small (but telling) event x

Nurses and sen teachers!!!
honestly I’ve had a lot of dealings with both and I have always found them kind and patient. Especially the sen teachers.

Yanbu.

I had a report a rape, it was 20 years ago now I was raped by my then boyfriend, but it was dealt with horrendously. The detective clearly didn’t believe me and thought that I was just out for revenge. They refused to look into evidence and try to retrieve text messages where he’d admitted it. They ignored messages I still had on my phone where he’d been threatening me, they dismissed the messages and refused to even read them. Said it wouldn’t be relevant.

Later on I had to call them again because he was harassing and threatening me and again, they were dismissive of threatening messages I had on my phone.

Years later I reported a situation where a child was bringing groomed online. (One of my dcs school friends) A girl was being asked for explicit photos from an adult male online. My child had become aware and told me. Again I had evidence and screenshots. They refused to look into it and said that the child’s parents would have to report it themselves. I couldn’t report it on the parent’s behalf. School were aware too. Nothing was done 🤷‍♀️

Ive had to report crime a few times, car broken into, that sort of thing. Nearly every time I’ve found them to be rude, dismissive and aggressive.

No, he wasn't trying to close it although I'm sure that will be his excuse. Basically he knew nothing about sec. 136 but insisted he knew better than me (a dual trained nurse.)

And yes, I know it's madness that I'm having to complain again (not that I'll bother as there is no point.)

I work with the public but I'm not a bully. I have just been so shocked as never had any police involvement luckily in the past.

How am I the problem when a police officer assaults me? How am I a problem when I call the police about a violent person threatening me and they tell me I need to take them into my house? Yep, I'm definitely the problem...

I just honestly can now see why people give them no respect. I've lost all respect for them myself. And if I acted like that in my job, I'd expect people to have no respect for me either. But I'd never in a million years treat my patients like they've treated me.